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Arpig -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (5/4/2006 7:41:21 AM)
quote: It's just a heightened state of awareness If what you say here is true, and I assume it is, since you have experienced hypnosis, then I stand corrected. My understanding of hypnosis was apparently wrong, so I respectfully withdraw my previous statement, and will offer none now, because I really don't know enough about the subject to comment properly.

temptressofsouls -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (5/4/2006 12:18:48 PM)
I know I personally feel sort of sleepy while I'm under, but there are studies (and no, I dont have any handy to point out to You, or I would) that while hypnosis relaxes, it's actually a state of high concentration. That being said, (and yes, I realize You'd have to take my word for it a little bit) can You possibly see why hypnosis could be beneficial to (among other things) D/s?

Givnmyself2u -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (5/4/2006 3:09:19 PM)
I have always wanted to try hypnosis, its always been a fantasy of mine ever since I saw all those old "B" movies about "mind control" *Rose*

temptressofsouls -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (5/4/2006 6:42:30 PM)
It's wonderful when done right Rose, but for the love of god please dont agree to go under with the first person who offers to take you under or they could do more harm then good, or even try to prey on you.

Givnmyself2u -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (5/4/2006 7:09:34 PM)
Don't worry ... it'll be a while before I allow anyone to do that to me. From what I have read you need to trust that person, so any fly by night's will never get the chance. *Rose*

tyku -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (6/7/2006 7:58:34 PM)
For those of you concerned about some things.. You can always offer the person in trance options. Trance can be an extremely aware or unaware state of mind. Every generalization can and will destroy itself. Even that one. Hypnosis is a tool, and as such it is morally neutral. It can be used for better, or for worse. Trust isn't neccessary, anything can be used to get someone into a useful trance. Tread softly.

Estring -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (6/7/2006 9:38:56 PM)
I have used hypnosis quite a bit in training my slave. It really helps reinforce the things I teach her. I have helped her insomnia with it as well. Lol.

Estring -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (6/7/2006 9:45:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: temptressofsouls I know I personally feel sort of sleepy while I'm under, but there are studies (and no, I dont have any handy to point out to You, or I would) that while hypnosis relaxes, it's actually a state of high concentration. That being said, (and yes, I realize You'd have to take my word for it a little bit) can You possibly see why hypnosis could be beneficial to (among other things) D/s? Your fight or flight response is actually triggered to allow you to go under, so in reality you are not really relaxed until you go under. Because it was mistakenly believed that people were in a deep sleep when under hypnosis when it was first used, that phrase "deep asleep" kind of stuck. You can eventually fall asleep if not brought out, but you are not asleep under hypnosis.

NJSubGirl -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (6/9/2006 12:24:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tyku For those of you concerned about some things.. You can always offer the person in trance options. Trance can be an extremely aware or unaware state of mind. Every generalization can and will destroy itself. Even that one. Hypnosis is a tool, and as such it is morally neutral. It can be used for better, or for worse. Trust isn't neccessary, anything can be used to get someone into a useful trance. Tread softly. ONE thing I dont agree with... I believe Trust is essential!! If you dont have trust, how can you truely be comfortable with falling into a trance, I dont believe its possible. Having being under a trance and being aware that it is happening... Is beautiful! Its all about the tone, the trust, and the willingness to accept what is happening to you :)

IronBear -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (6/9/2006 2:59:44 AM)
[RANT] Talk about the blind leading the blind... Ok so I'm more than a little pissed off simply because I have a client who was reading an on line forum where this same discussion was happening with most of the same advise by people without professional training or experience and It's taken me all today and will probably take the next three days (sort of fucks up my plans for the long weekend) deprogramming and sorting her out..... [/RANT]

pinkee -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (6/9/2006 8:00:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IronBear If I can suggest, you do a search in both this forum and the General forum you will find a number of threads in which this has been debated hotly... Here, my only comment is that I have used and continue to use Hypnosis in therapy and have used hypnosis with the aid of chemical enhancements to interogate prisoners.. As a trained Hypnotherapist as well as a trained Psychologist, I have grave reservatios about using this with out professional and certified training..... How ever you do what you want but be prepared to answer to the consequences if things go wrong.... ~agrees with Iron Bear; wiggles butt, and departs~ pinkee

Kirei -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (6/9/2006 8:46:07 AM)
I have only one rule on hypnosis....If you have been under any deep hypnosis for anything, you must inform your partner before any play about said hypnosis you were under, including if you were trained under it. Its better to be safe than sorry. For me hypnosis is part of what I call mind play, and while it can be used in lifestyle situation it is not apart of what I consider the normal bdsm play. It is its own separate and distinct area. For me mind play is anything that probes and/or delves deep into a persons mind...this can be hypnosis, mental conditioning, brain washing, interragation, mediation, and other such things that involve the mind to a high degree. Things in this area can be used to compliment or hinder a healthy lifestyle relationship. As anything the whole is only as good as the parts that make it up. Koneko

tyku -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (6/10/2006 1:26:31 AM)
IronBear: what kinds of problems are you encountering with your patient?

IronBear -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (6/10/2006 4:53:17 AM)
Mostly regarding relationships and personality reactions to specific people....Nothing I havent handled many time before in Psych Counselling and therapy. I'm using a mixture of hypnotherapy and counselling to sort the problem out rather than using deep hypnosis. I tend to find that light trance work is often more effective..

tyku -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (6/10/2006 11:09:51 PM)
What have you learned of waking hypnosis?

IronBear -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (6/10/2006 11:33:35 PM)
What is this? 20 questions or a preadmission to a professional institution.... Young man, I was trained professionally and accredited professionally and that should be sufficient as far as the net subject goes.... Are you either a professionally accredited and trained Hypnotherapist or Psycoloogist? if not you what is the purpose of your questions?

tyku -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (6/11/2006 5:23:52 AM)
Is curiosity not enough for you? You are old enough to have learned from some people that I revere, and will almost certainly never get a chance to even meet. By itself this would be enough for me to ask a lot of questions. A persons education is usually only as good as the persistence with which one desires knowledge. You most likely gained a lot from your education that many others didn't. Also, I do not know- and I am searching for- the extent of your training. Now, are you going to actually answer the question rather than giving a vague response like in your previous post?

NativeDad -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (6/11/2006 7:52:42 PM)
This is not directed at anyone, but I'd like to add a small comment. I've been using hypnosis for years, in various matters including subs... there IS one thing I learned long ago that helps tremendously. I will record sessions, beginning to end, and Always tell my subject I am doing this, so that 'if' there is any lingering feeling, or question, they can review from their 'okay' at the beginning, acknowledging the recording, to the final wake, and my telling them, "I will stop the tape now". In many years, I've only been asked a couple of times to review a tape, and this was only from curiosity, not doubt. As with ALL things D/S, Integrity, honesty, trust, must already be in place, even the most skilled hypnotist cannot induce them in the subject or the hypnotist. Oh, and before anyone asks, I've found that I get the best results when using hypnosis to enhance (physical) feeling and/or.. to implant (basically horniness) commands on subjects who are intrigued by the idea.

KennelDeSade2 -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (6/12/2006 10:24:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IronBear s.. As a trained Hypnotherapist as well as a trained Psychologist, I have grave reservatios about using this with out professional and certified training..... I cringe when I hear people talk about things like hypno training of a submissive, when they have yet to produce a well behaved dog.

tyku -> RE: Hypnosis in traing a submissive (6/12/2006 3:10:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KennelDeSade2 quote: ORIGINAL: IronBear s.. As a trained Hypnotherapist as well as a trained Psychologist, I have grave reservatios about using this with out professional and certified training..... I cringe when I hear people talk about things like hypno training of a submissive, when they have yet to produce a well behaved dog. What do you consider a well behaved dog?

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