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KenDckey -> McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/4/2011 12:11:55 PM)
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/opinion/article_f2053af0-e192-11df-9a00-001cc4c002e0.html Found this interesting and pretty much as predicted.

flcouple2009 -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/4/2011 1:20:24 PM)
I thought about clicking the link for a moment. But then I noticed that one little word in the link, OPINION, and thought better of it.

Lucylastic -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/4/2011 1:38:09 PM)
me too, LMAO

pahunkboy -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/4/2011 1:43:03 PM)
Well silly people- we have to pass the law - before we can know what is in it.

Lucylastic -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/4/2011 1:49:04 PM)
If your opinion is reliable then we are all fucked

DomYngBlk -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/4/2011 1:53:58 PM)
Fuck me. I read it. Typical lunacy. And "opinion". Who the fuck that dude is nobody knows. Funny thing for me is....Now companies "want" to give their employees health insurance. Didn't they say just the opposite prior to this passing? That the escalation of health care costs of employees was going to run them out of business....If you were Mickey D's wouldn't you want the government to take over that responsibility and pay the 2000$ per employee penalty? Smells like yesterdays diapers to me.

pahunkboy -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/4/2011 1:56:42 PM)
....sure pick on McDonalds. They are not the only corp to get waivers. I mean- we see waivers gone wild- which begs the question- if everyone wanted this- then why are hundreds of waivers issued?

DomYngBlk -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/4/2011 1:58:55 PM)
I'll answer as soon as you tell me why Corp's are so giddy about giving health care to employees all the sudden. My question was first.

pahunkboy -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/4/2011 2:09:01 PM)
Meanwhile Obama sent a letter to all 50 states telling the govrs how to fuck the people out of medicaid.

DomYngBlk -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/4/2011 2:10:20 PM)
Yep, no response. Figured as much. Let me know when you get that answer

pahunkboy -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/4/2011 2:12:31 PM)
How would YOU know anything about McDonalds health ins policies? They are after all one of your states shining corporations.

DomYngBlk -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/4/2011 2:18:56 PM)
Wasn't my question Pa......Just want to know from you why all US Corp all of the sudden want to hold onto employee health care. Pre Health care you'd think that there was no way they could stay in business and still provide care....what changed?

KenDckey -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/5/2011 4:24:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 I thought about clicking the link for a moment. But then I noticed that one little word in the link, OPINION, and thought better of it. Trying to understand the comment, I guess this means that opinions of the people don't count. Correct?

KenDckey -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/5/2011 4:31:46 AM)
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/health/2010-10-07-healthlaw07_ST_N.htm McDonald’s given exemption so it doesn’t have to meet the statute requirements http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703431604575522413101063070.html $2,000 benefit cap Does not meet the Federal Law McDonald's fighting back

KenDckey -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/5/2011 4:35:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk I'll answer as soon as you tell me why Corp's are so giddy about giving health care to employees all the sudden. My question was first. Because they aren't required to meet the legal requirement. http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/health/2010-10-07-healthlaw07_ST_N.htm

tazzygirl -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/5/2011 5:09:56 AM)
The waivers are effective for a year and were granted to insurance plans and companies that showed that employee premiums would rise or that workers would lose coverage without them, Santillo says.

KenDckey -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/5/2011 5:39:22 AM)
Yup exactly. And they didn't want to be the first to go on record that they were going to drop insurance. I wonder tho, and since I doubt anyone has the specifics as it would be a company secret, if the individual contributions would increase, does that cover the increase in profits for the insurance company where they are making less than their legislated profit margin currently? I kknow no response required. But it is courious that the premiums would rise under this plan. My premiums for my govt provided insurance (the one I opted out from) were approx $350 a month. The other got one that I did keep is $100 a month. My wife's cobra payment for Wal-mart was $460 a month. These are facts based upon my personal experience with the civilian insurance world (one which I will admit make very little sense to me). Now if that is required to cover the statutory amount + profit margin I wonder how the insurance police (my new govt sub agency of the IRS to enforce this and cheaper to get agents than using current treasurery agents) is going to find out what is profit and what is expense. And am I gonna have to testify if they aren't (along with all the other plan participants) Now if we have to raise the employees rates at McDonalds to cover the same coverage, and just for shits and giggles we will say that the kids are getting 20 hr weeks, then their cost would be $175 a month. At minimum wage (I don't know what they make so that is what I am using for discussion purposes) then they would have to work to pay for the $160 a month increase (the $175 premimum minus the $15 a month they are currently paying) or about 22hrs a month (hmmmmm that is 2 hrs more than they are working - something wrong with this picture). Just wondering

DomYngBlk -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/5/2011 5:51:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KenDckey quote: ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk I'll answer as soon as you tell me why Corp's are so giddy about giving health care to employees all the sudden. My question was first. Because they aren't required to meet the legal requirement. http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/health/2010-10-07-healthlaw07_ST_N.htm Still not an answer. think beyond mickey d's to the rest of the economy. You don't hear CEO's jumping up and down saying "Yes, we will put our employees on the Govt' plan and not provide health care" Actually you are hearing just the opposite. Which, is the opposite of what was happening prior to the Health care Debate. Logic would say Corporate America would drop all their health plans based on cost and the amount of productivity gains by not having employees and staff worry about its rules and administration. Overall payroll costs come down since the whole teams of people that companies have to administer company run health care plans can be let go.......Again, why do they want to keep them?

tazzygirl -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/5/2011 5:52:55 AM)
quote: My premiums for my govt provided insurance (the one I opted out from) were approx $350 a month. The other got one that I did keep is $100 a month. My wife's cobra payment for Wal-mart was $460 a month. These are facts based upon my personal experience with the civilian insurance world (one which I will admit make very little sense to me). Now if that is required to cover the statutory amount + profit margin I wonder how the insurance police (my new govt sub agency of the IRS to enforce this and cheaper to get agents than using current treasurery agents) is going to find out what is profit and what is expense. And am I gonna have to testify if they aren't (along with all the other plan participants) Cobra plans were designed to keep people from wanting to pay for them. What government insurance did you opt out of for 350 and what insurance did you find for 100 to replace it? quote: Now if we have to raise the employees rates at McDonalds to cover the same coverage, and just for shits and giggles we will say that the kids are getting 20 hr weeks, then their cost would be $175 a month. At minimum wage (I don't know what they make so that is what I am using for discussion purposes) then they would have to work to pay for the $160 a month increase (the $175 premimum minus the $15 a month they are currently paying) or about 22hrs a month (hmmmmm that is 2 hrs more than they are working - something wrong with this picture). Their cost is no where close to that. Essential Care is the group plan for McDonalds. You are talking about 10 - 15 dollars a week. These have limited benefits, higher end deductibles, and add ons cost (such as dental). Pst, your math is a bit off. Im curious as to where you got your monetary figures from.

KenDckey -> RE: McDonald's gives an ObamaCare Lesson (2/5/2011 5:53:55 AM)
I thought you were supporthing the position taht companies do want to keep them. In that case, beats me. Doesn't make cost effective since. Except in the case of where the union negotiated it.

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