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Passing out. - 2/4/2011 10:25:34 PM   
TimrehIX


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Status: offline 		I was playing with a guy last week, I was tied standing up with rope, collared, hooded and had an anal hook up my ass. I started to feel light headed so he took the hood of and asked if I was ok, I said yes. But a little while later I was on the floor the ropes were all cut and I was laying in his lap. I had passed out.

I had felt light headed before in a similar scene but didn’t pass out. I am wondering what causes someone to pass out. So I can avoid it in the future.
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RE: Passing out. - 2/4/2011 10:27:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Don't stand with your knees locked for long periods, especially in bondage.  Stand with your knees "soft" and consciously flex them, even just a little, every few minutes.  Or make sure your top is experienced enough to monitor your stance and check for locked knees.

Tie someone in a position where they can't flex their knees and you're asking for them to pass out.  If your top didn't know that, they need educated stat.


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RE: Passing out. - 2/5/2011 4:32:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		i am gussing its just cutting blood that flowing to your brain that is casing passing out
tieing rops much tieght is the case (only gussing)
hope i am right
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RE: Passing out. - 2/5/2011 5:43:04 AM   
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RE: Passing out. - 2/5/2011 7:10:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		It is something called a vaso-vagal response. A lot of things can trigger it, but prolonged standing is one of the major ones. Keep yourself well hydrated before the scene (they say sports drinks can help) and yes, don't lock your knees.

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RE: Passing out. - 2/5/2011 8:28:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		OP--
there are literally about 50 different things that can cause fainting.  (also called a "syncopal episode" if you talk to your physician)

What LadyNTrainer said and a few others above is all true.
Some of the more obvious causes--just strictly based on what you described--locking one's knees and standing at attention for any length of time, dehydration, failing to eat properly (having a low blood sugar--although that can require medical intervention/glucose  to fix if it was low enough to cause fainting), and circulation issues if restraints were too tight, collars too tight etc..  You also have to consider that you were wearing a hood--any time you restrict/affect the flow of oxygen into your body, you risk syncope.

Now.
That all said, it can also be NONE of the above.  There are numerous circulatory, cardiac, neurological and metabolic medical issues that syncope/fainting can be a symptom of.  If you find yourself feeling dizzy, weak or faint again--and not just under duress--see your primary care physician for a full physical/bloodwork immediately.

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RE: Passing out. - 2/5/2011 8:00:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Out of curiosity, why is it that locked knees are supposed to make you pass out?  I ask because that's the only way I know how to stand (and after five years of marching band and more working retail, I'm pretty used to standing for long periods of time with my knees locked) but I've never passed out.  Or even felt light headed.  That being said, I do have one very bad knee (I've dislocated it twice, the second time fairly recently) and according to my physical therapist, both of my knees naturally hyper-extend.  She tried to work that out of me, but was unable to, standing any other way makes me feel like I'm squatting.

Anyway, I rambled, back to my questions.  What is it about locking your knees while you stand that is supposed to make you pass out?


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RE: Passing out. - 2/5/2011 8:50:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyeLyn

Out of curiosity, why is it that locked knees are supposed to make you pass out?  I ask because that's the only way I know how to stand (and after five years of marching band and more working retail, I'm pretty used to standing for long periods of time with my knees locked) but I've never passed out.  Or even felt light headed.  That being said, I do have one very bad knee (I've dislocated it twice, the second time fairly recently) and according to my physical therapist, both of my knees naturally hyper-extend.  She tried to work that out of me, but was unable to, standing any other way makes me feel like I'm squatting.

Anyway, I rambled, back to my questions.  What is it about locking your knees while you stand that is supposed to make you pass out?


Welll, that's a good thing.  Pretty much anyone who has been in the military, fire dept, police dept or any quasi-military training will tell you that it's one of the first things they drill into your head.
There are major blood vessels that run the length of the leg--standing at attention with the knee locked/hyperextended in some individuals can constrict the vessel and affect blood returning to the heart--they get a blood pressure drop...and down they go!  It happens a lot at fire/police funerals when everyone is standing in formation for 20-30 minutes or more.
All you need to do is not lock them--bend them every so slightly.

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RE: Passing out. - 2/6/2011 4:21:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is a very interesting thread. Do you think the bending knees thing could be the same if you are flat on your back or stomach? I cannot lay flat unless I bend my knees even slightly. I got an MRI years ago, for something different, Because I had to lie flat it seriously affected me. I couldn't walk in a straight line, my head was fuzzy and I slurred my speach. Luckily I was expecting it and took a friend with me, we had to sit in the cafe for about an hour until everything was normal. I'm like that anytime I lie flat, obviously was worse then as I couldn't bend my knees

I have always thought it was something to do with my spine. Beginning to wonder now though.

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RE: Passing out. - 2/7/2011 7:34:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		allnewtome:

I honestly don't know. I've never heard of what you described but that doesn't mean anything. Hopefully you discussed with your provider after you had your MRI.

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RE: Passing out. - 2/8/2011 3:19:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		No. I just presumed it was something to do with my spine. I've never thought about it and worked round it. This thread has just made me wonder

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RE: Passing out. - 2/8/2011 3:44:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Make sure the hood didn't cause you to re-breathe [not enough fresh air/oxygen in, rebreathing your own exhalations/carbon dioxide].
Have you used the anal hook before in that position? Some people pass out from any dilation/stimulation [vasovagal as above].
Standing without flexing the calves and thighs actually causes blood to POOL in the legs, so presuming you're youngish and fittish, it's not restricting flow INTO the legs, it's decreasing the flow BACK to the heart and head.
So yes to rocking and flexing your legs and body, just the wrong reasons above.

A reminder that if your top wasn't prepared for emergencies and/or sufficiently educated, your middle names could be David Carradine.

Your position [arms too far back behind you, ropes also restricting blood flow back], equipment [collar too tight, anal hook], and as above, too hot, too tired, plus: hyperventilating whether from pleasure or pain, not enough protein, even small amounts of alcohol/street drugs/prescription drugs, pregnancy, any can do it.
**IF there is any chance you could be pregnant, tell your doc right away; even if absolutely not, it's a good idea to tell your doc anyway that you passed out during ahem exertion.

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RE: Passing out. - 2/8/2011 4:07:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ask your doctor or some other health professional. Don't let a buncha perverts on the internet be your source for medical advice.

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RE: Passing out. - 2/8/2011 7:45:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

Ask your doctor or some other health professional. Don't let a buncha perverts on the internet be your source for medical advice.

No offense intended to any perverts on the internet.


None taken (and I work in the health field).  There is absolutely no substitute for going to a  physician for a full evaluation.  It's one of the biggest problems I have with WebMD and other sites--they have very good information, however many people use it to self-diagnose (improperly....at least 50% of the time or more...) and don't go to their doctor until they're really in trouble.



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RE: Passing out. - 2/8/2011 8:00:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TimrehIX
I was playing with a guy last week, I was tied standing up with rope, collared, hooded and had an anal hook up my ass. I started to feel light headed so he took the hood of and asked if I was ok, I said yes. But a little while later I was on the floor the ropes were all cut and I was laying in his lap. I had passed out.

It seems to me to have been some kind of shock: dilation of the blood vessels, perhaps by the warmth caused by the hood, which hood also may have caused disorientation and dizziness?

I have no idea what the medical effect of an anal hook is.

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RE: Passing out. - 2/10/2011 11:30:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Almost passed out twice in the same bdsm filmed session one time. Was restrained and taking needles from my then Master when I felt faint and felt darkness coming as I was beginning to pass out. Master untied me, let me rest till I felt ok. Then we restarted the film and carried on where we had left off....till the same thing happened a second time. Another rest and we carried on, eventually finishing the film.
Reason I passed out...no breakfast that morning and lack of protein. Thhere are many reasons for passing out during a scene. Thats mine.

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RE: Passing out. - 2/11/2011 12:07:44 AM   
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I was playing with a guy last week, I was tied standing up with rope, collared, hooded and had an anal hook up my ass.
Not to make light of your thread, but when I read this I couldn't help thinking, "Now there's a conversation starter that you don't hear every day."

That said, the advice and opinions given have been very good, covering many of the possibilities for this episode and advising you to seek medical attention if it is repeated.


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