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RE: Transitioning - 2/7/2011 6:25:22 PM   
HisEvelyn


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How wonderful to come back to this thread today and see all the great responses. Thank you so much to everyone who has congratulated us on this step forward, and everyone who has given me their perspective on living this life 24/7.

For some of you who speak about this being no different than a vanilla arrangement, that is good to know and I already know that mostly it is that way. But I wanted to ask regardless. Because I have only been in this sort of dynamic for a year now, and while I have lived with men in a vanilla sense, I have never lived with a Master before as a 24/7 slave. I am well beyond thinking it will be a twisted fairytale or something magical. I know it's a lot like normal life. I believe I said this in my first post. But I also imagine there is a difference in living with a man who controls your life entirely, who has the ability to stop you in your tracks with a word or a look and change your course of action for the day/hour/minute.

So I am interested in those subtle differences. I am clever enough to know that I don't know everything, and I am just hoping for a little insight into the things my inexperience might not cause me to think about. I hope this clarifies my inquiry. A lot of the responses I've gotten already have helped me immensely. But thank you to everyone for your input regardless!

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RE: Transitioning - 2/7/2011 6:44:04 PM   
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Califchick: You seem to be torn between the two urges to be sharp-tongued and criticizing and giving actual, genuine advice. I appreciate most of the sentiment but the nitpickery and veiled suspicions/accusations at the depth of our Dynamic I do NOT appreciate.



For MaamJay: Your post is shows lots of experience, I've read it a couple times, now, and am sure that Evelyn has done so as well. But it is the last paragraph that I found to be most insightful, specifically in regards to being the Leader whilst also being New. I was having some difficulty explaining this, but you've taken the 'brainspeak' and given it actual language and meaning.

Thank you.


For agirl From what I saw your posts generally came down to: Be flexible, do not expect too much, too soon... as well as being aware that things will be difficult at times. The former I saw nowhere else done nigh as well, I sincerely hope that she will take the moral behind it to heart.

Though I'm not sure what you're basing your 'estimate' off of, so I'm simply going to assume you were jesting and move on.

You have my thanks as well.


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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

the only thing i could really say is that you have to be more mindful and accountable. you may have to change the way you've gotten used to doing something because it better suits his preferences, OR he may not even care HOW you do it, just that it gets done.




Good, general advice. But something that needs to be stated now and again nonetheless, just so it doesn't fade into the back of one's thoughts.

Thank you.



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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

Really it's not any different than moving in with someone who does not enjoi smacking his bitch around sheesh... Dom sub gay straight and everything in between, Same shit different day

BadOne



This is by far the worst information or advice in this thread. Any person who is not apathetic/cynical or narcissistic will tell you that each relationship dynamic is different (ESPECIALLY transitioning from Vanilla to Kinky). Furthermore it can barely be quantified as 'advice'. Being both vague and badly written.

In fact, one might go so far as to say that this is counterproductive, with the potential to be damagingly so, should someone naive take said advice to heart. I wonder what your real motives were, providing such blatant misinformation?

I am absolutely sure that I could literally write a college-standard essay on JUST how incorrect this is.

To any other with a similar question as Evelyn, Ignore this.


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ORIGINAL: subtlebutterfly

One of those rare moments that I agree with SailingBum

preparing emotionally? does that involve sayin hey baby n kiss him? or is there some..preparation to it?

...don't tell me there's a preparataion...gawd damn it no wonder I'm never gonna be on those kind of relationships



This isn't even information, or advice. Just badly constructed sentences meant to demean or belittle.

Ignore this as well.



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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

He and I are starting to make plans for my move (to him) later this year.  That said, we do spend every weekend and occasional week days together, and we're at the point where we're not "on" for each other when together.  We are just who we are.

These are things I'm thinking about, about joining his household: .......



This entire post was fantastic, and I thank you for the thought and effort you put forth into it. Your advice is both well posed and sensible. Some of the issues you raised have been considered already, and some have not. But they are all now on Our list to address.

My Thanks, to you.



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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

Hey HisEvelyn,

I am very happy for you, I know how excited you must be.

My best advice to you is not to overthink or overanalyze any of it.

Living with someone full time takes a lot of getting used to, whether vanilla or not and if you are LD it is even stranger I would imagine, never having been in a LDR.

The only thing I would say is to be yourselves, give each other patience, space and both of you need compromise and flexibility to become part of your vocabularies.

Oh, and don't have overly high expectations of the kink thing. When you get together once in a while, everything is so hot when you see each other. When you are living together, things are not always perfectly hot since instead of having a date, you are living your lives together, and that is not always fun and games.

Enjoy.


sexyred1, once again you give good advice with a tone that shows both experience and an open minded desire to help. I'm not a frequent poster on this board, but I do tend to watch what she posts. Your name has come up a fair few times and always in a complimentary fashion. I am sincerely hopeful that this will continue to be the case.



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RE: Transitioning - 2/7/2011 7:32:35 PM   
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ItsAProcess,

No need to thank me. I am a fan of Evelyn's since she started posting and I wish you both the best of luck in your life together.

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RE: Transitioning - 2/7/2011 7:42:07 PM   
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::has to hug Red tightly:: Right back at you, sweetie. :)

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RE: Transitioning - 2/7/2011 7:50:22 PM   
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I have no advice really, as I'm in the same position currently. I'll be moving in exactly 4 weeks to be with my sub,the only difference is I'm moving to another country to be with my him. (2,000 miles away in Canada ) At the moment we've been with each other a total of almost 6 weeks in person over the period of a year of our courtship. This included a 2 week initial visit, a 3 week visit in late October, and a 4 day visit that happened this past weekend. All I can say is I hope you made your visits more like "living together" than "vacation time" as that will be a very valuable step in adjusting to living together.

On almost all of our visits, except this most recent one, sadden worked the entire time I was there as he will do when I move to be with him. Now you may say "well that's not realistic either since when you move you probably will be working as well", and that is true... initially at least as our plans include me to stop working at some point in time and for him to be the sole provider financially as I honestly am not one who is cut out for the work force and prefer to spend my time doing domestic duties. But that's beside the point. The point is to not only use your visits as a time of getting to know one another, but also as a period of trying to see what day to day life with the other will be like. And since it seems you've done that, then I will say good luck to you and your Master.

- Princess

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RE: Transitioning - 2/7/2011 9:26:14 PM   
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Thank You ItsAProcess ... and even Your nick tells Me You understand a lot! Like any process there will be ups and downs, times of joy, times of despair and many times of bewilderment! But I wish You and Evelyn well through it all.

Also wanted to applaud Nueva's post ... yes, those minutiae of everyday life can be REAL sticking points and need to be dealt with early on. I'd forgotten some of those till I read your post! Actually the dishes are one case where Master has given way (no dishwasher in the van) ... He lets Me do them My way when I am doing them (90% of the time) but reserves the right to do them HIS way if He's doing them! Only fair I reckon *grin*. Another excellent point was the possibility of resentment if He is ordering you to do something different in your home ... that could be tempered by His reluctance to do that even if He would like to BECAUSE it's your home and not His. That will need ongoing discussion ... I wholeheartedly recommend Evelyn keeping a daily journal to express all of this, it makes fabulous rereading later to see the journey! And my Master kept a journal too at the start ... it made some things easier to discuss when we'd both had time to calmly write them down first. Worth considering I hope.

And another good luck to Princess and sadden ... not long now! I am sure that You are both in a whirl getting everything sorted out, remember to keep the new-style communication going. Hugs to you both.

Maam Jay aka violet[A]

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RE: Transitioning - 2/7/2011 9:58:55 PM   
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Thank you both, ItsaProcess and MaamJay.  Something else I forgot, when mentioning Evelyn might feel weird about him telling her to run her house differently - HE might feel reluctant to tell her to change things in her home, as well.

And that's where his nic rings true:  It's a process, truly.  And I do believe it's the day-to-day minutia that adds up and can become quite the stickler.  That's where it's most important to talk through everything, even if it seems trivial at the time.

Best wishes to you both!


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RE: Transitioning - 2/7/2011 10:06:55 PM   
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I had never even considered the possibility of Master feeling odd giving me orders in what was my house. I already consider it his home as well, and he's not even here yet! Definitely something to think about! That's exactly the sort of thing I was hoping someone would mention. Something that wouldn't occur to me on my own with my inexperience. We're actually discussing it right now!

I would not be surprised if Master makes me keep a journal of our days together during this process. He used to make me keep a journal when I first began my transition from his submissive to his slave, so he had a good bead on where my mind was.

Thank you again. And good luck to you as well, PrincessofSadden!

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RE: Transitioning - 2/8/2011 1:05:18 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CalifChick

Correction is not the same as punishment.  Why would you get punished for making a mistake?

Cali




Sounds like a good enough excuse to me Cali  



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RE: Transitioning - 2/8/2011 2:06:45 AM   
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putting myself in youre shoes for a mo and oh (really happy for you xx) - it would be those moments of down time that im used to where i just kick off my shoes and flop - only i cant because He's after me for something or another.  i think it might be those little moments more than anything.  those sacrisanct little pockets of bliss id find hard to give up. 

my normal day is spent runing around after everyone else, you cant keep that up day after day after day without some 'you' time.

i know that i would start to feel a bit resentful if my down time was invaded too much too often.

one of my first ever relationships was live in and he invaded my space 24/7 - well in the end it felt like an invasion.  for me thats the most important thing to agree on - if you can have youre down time, whatever that entails, youll be much more able to keep bright and joyful when youre taking care of him.

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RE: Transitioning - 2/8/2011 2:07:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

He and I are starting to make plans for my move (to him) later this year.  That said, we do spend every weekend and occasional week days together, and we're at the point where we're not "on" for each other when together.  We are just who we are.


*grinning wide*

I can't wait until you make it happen! We'd better do our spring fling before you're tied down.

~porcelaine


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RE: Transitioning - 2/8/2011 7:34:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

quote:

ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

He and I are starting to make plans for my move (to him) later this year.  That said, we do spend every weekend and occasional week days together, and we're at the point where we're not "on" for each other when together.  We are just who we are.


*grinning wide*

I can't wait until you make it happen! We'd better do our spring fling before you're tied down.

~porcelaine



Oooooh yes!  Or perhaps he'll invite you over when I'm tied down....heh. 


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