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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 4:37:15 AM   
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Homophobia. Always pathetic!

Aye, but such a fun fear to play on

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 4:51:03 AM   
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Dude.
Fucking a good and manly man in his ass is not feminising, and I have fucked the Canadian equivalents of SEALs; a couple of my favourites, actually: a divemaster, a homicide detective.
I'm also not buying the lipstick theory; if he'd fractured his coccyx [hah!] enough to interfere with his defecation, he'd be using a colostomy bag until they pinned it, and then he could at least pass something the size of a bisected popsicle.
Besides, there are plenty of darling lipstick-sized vibrating dildos, and cross-dressing is a hard limit to most lifestyle Dommes, since the fetish absorbs most of the fetishists' time and energy.
Lotsa military and mediterranean guys pull macho crap to cover their bi- tendencies, such as being attracted to SEAL-guy and/or wanting to watch him getting pegged, but only if he crossdresses.

Here's my previous post:

[ahem]

Why I like strap-on sex:
#1: I come like a bull
#2 Nobody gets pregnant, him or Me. No bladder infections, no yeast infections.
#3: It feels very natural [as AAkasha said]
#4: Power. Watching a strong manly man kneel and assume the position? purr.
#5: Did I mention, I come like a BULL?
#6: Strap-ons with a vibe in the base = multiple orgasms
#7: The sounds a good man makes when he's entered
#8: See #1




quoted because I love this post

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 4:55:07 AM   
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it's about why you need another penis in your life being it a plastic one to go "contra natura" and shove it up an orifice where God intended to not be used, and let's face it, a man banging another is anti-natural, otherwise there'd be no sense in boys liking girls, so why do you need to go contra natura as well?




For the same reason that some of us women like to penetrate and explore the urethra or use his mouth. Its a hole and its there to be used

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 5:26:45 AM   
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FR (because I will no longer be talking to the creepy homophobic man, but somebody else might like to read this)

I heard somebody say this on the fringes of the group I was standing in the other day. I'm pretty sure it was my SO (and feel a bit guilty that I'm not sure, but... ).

Dildos are shaped like dildos because that is the shape to maximise pleasure to an orifice.

Cocks are shaped like cocks because that's the shape to maximise pleasure to an orifice (I know that's a bit teleological, but shhhhh :p).

So it's not that dildos are designed to be like cocks, it's that that both of them are roughly cylindrical because, hey! That's the shape of the orifice(s) in question. It just so happened that cocks developed first, but that doesn't mean you get to claim any kind of causation.

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 5:33:14 AM   
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My thing is not really with the concept of "active, giver = powerful partner vs passive-receiver = submissive one" but more as to why the concept has been on BDSM as if it was as important as communion is to a mass at church. I mean, sure, it's a valid fetish but why is it so important for a lady of dominance to go and pound a man ?...


I've never had a problem with women wanting to use strap-ons at all. I always did think it was a bit of a role reversal idea - and quite a fun one. To put a bit more psychology into it: she gets to 'borrow a bit of traditionally masculine power', and I'm more than happy for her to go right ahead and do it. That gives me the hots. It's even more of a power exchange thing if she gets to take that power of mine which isn't 'rightfully hers' by virtue of chromosomes and physical anatomy. I feel ultra-sub doing that, and however she makes sense of it rationally, I hope she feels ultra-dominant, too.

It's also kind of fascinating to borrow a bit of that traditional 'feminine power', too - that 'come and take me' thing that 'arouses the rampaging beast'. I used to use a pic of my back as an icon here on the forums. The entire pic would be X rated - it's equivalent of a girly pic on a soft porn mag. (It's still in my profile.) I found it pretty horny that women would occasionally write to say 'I want to do X to you . . . with a strap-on'. The desire to do that, or the desire to flog me, was pretty much what I'd hoped to inspire in a femdom.

Lastly, an earlier point: What is 'natural' for men and women to do? Wearing clothes, driving cars, writing on forums - they're all 'unnatural' in the sense that no other animal does them. The only conclusion that makes sense for me is that whatever humans do, it is 'natural' for them to do. I don't want to spend another millisecond of my life being hung-up about that. I want to have lots of fun before I check out. That requires kink. I'm not going to let any more of that old farty thinking get in the way of kink anymore.

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 5:41:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious
Cocks are shaped like cocks because that's the shape to maximise pleasure to an orifice (I know that's a bit teleological, but shhhhh :p).


Bit of an aside - but you'd have thought nature would have designed something just above a man's dick that would work on the clit, though, wouldn't you? Bit of an oversight on God's part there, I feel.

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 5:45:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Bit of an aside - but you'd have thought nature would have designed something just above a man's dick that would work on the clit, though, wouldn't you? Bit of an oversight on God's part there, I feel.

Fingers, dude; you've got ten of them

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 5:58:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious
Fingers, dude; you've got ten of them


Doh! I thought those were for sticking in my ears after sex.

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 6:04:21 AM   
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That's why you have ten - you can use different ones for different purposes!

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 6:42:12 AM   
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You need to hear from Diane about this.

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 11:58:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

FR (because I will no longer be talking to the creepy homophobic man, but somebody else might like to read this)

I heard somebody say this on the fringes of the group I was standing in the other day. I'm pretty sure it was my SO (and feel a bit guilty that I'm not sure, but... ).

Dildos are shaped like dildos because that is the shape to maximise pleasure to an orifice.

Cocks are shaped like cocks because that's the shape to maximise pleasure to an orifice (I know that's a bit teleological, but shhhhh :p).

So it's not that dildos are designed to be like cocks, it's that that both of them are roughly cylindrical because, hey! That's the shape of the orifice(s) in question. It just so happened that cocks developed first, but that doesn't mean you get to claim any kind of causation.


Though I agree with the sentiment in this post (hence my quoting it) I do not agree with the underlying principle. Dildos were not created in 'penis' shape because it is the best fit for the orifice so far as pleasure goes. Peni are the shape they are in order to inject semen as far into the vaginal cavity as possible. This increased chances of conception by 1) putting the swimmers closer to the goal, and 2) by allowing for the formation of a 'soft plug' further up the vaginal cavity and thus keeping the 'swimmers' where they are 'needed'. Dildo's were created by male Dr's in a replica of male genitalia in order to deal with "hysteria" in women. It does not surprise me that their creations are the epitome of male ego made into silicone/latex.

More and more women are taking over the control of their sexual pleasure and coming up with innovative designs specifically for her pleasure. Here are a few links:
http://lelo-pleasure-objects.lovedreamer.com/
http://natural-contour-vibrators.lovedreamer.com/
http://je-joue-toys.lovedreamer.com/

Getting back on topic, most anal toys also do not look like peni (http://anal-vibrators.lovedreamer.com/). Though admittedly, the ones that are generally attached to strap-on harnesses do. Once again I believe this has a lot to do with the ego, and ignorance, of the folks designing the devices. It is not a statement as to the intent of the people wearing it. I do not feel I need to become a man to dominate one. I also do not secretly want a penis. I greatly enjoy my vagina all the things I can do with it. I use a strap-on because I like to 'mount' my partner. I like to physically exhibit my dominance. If there was a harness attachment that was shaped in a fashion to heighten his pleasure and not diminish mine (my harness comes with a space for a small clitoral vibrator and has a very specific way of attaching the external dildo and thus all attachments would have to be compatible) then I would have him purchase that attachment. This is not the case, so I use what is available.

Finally, I'd like to quote VaguelyCurious once more and agree whole heartedly with "...I will no longer be talking to the creepy homophobic man, but somebody else might like to read this."

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 1:48:55 PM   
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There's an awesome joke about homophobia in the Navy and how Marines don't care (and even enjoy) about strap-on play... I just can't think of one. Where's C when you need him!?

At least my hot manly Marine is the one that brings up the topic the most, and I definitely don't see him as less of a man when he's choking down my cock.

I blame this entire post on the fact that my vibrator broke and I haven't been getting regular sexings.

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 1:49:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tantriqu

Dude.
Fucking a good and manly man in his ass is not feminising, and I have fucked the Canadian equivalents of SEALs; a couple of my favourites, actually: a divemaster, a homicide detective.



I heart you.. and I'm so jealous.. I've only had one big fireman (several times) and a couple of burly macho bikers... individually of course...

yum .. a SEAL?  damn... I'm putting that on my list

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 1:55:46 PM   
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Thing is, I have met dommes who actually refuse doing strap-on and instead can dominate a man even if they are the ones receiving his phallus.....wonder how come they don't have to lose the feminine moves to do it while others must take male actions to have such power...


Unfortunately, if this is your only view.. then you're never going to get it.  I'd suggesting moving on and realizing its not for you.
Fucking someone with a strap on can be a very feminine move...

and I get to dominate whoever, however I want (assumming consent.. blah blah blah.. ) and really, you do not get to decide if its masculine or feminine...

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 1:59:13 PM   
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yum .. a SEAL?  damn... I'm putting that on my list



http://www.sableislandhorses.ca/resources/travel/09b/Sexy-Seal1.jpg

There you go. Proffering his lissom rear enticingly, the wanton strumpet.

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 2:08:16 PM   
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It's no accident that SEAL en francais is phoque :-)
Even though that's a full frontal female, dammit!

And if we're voyeur-voting, I'm for the Peon back pic!

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 2:16:00 PM   
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to: Allthatjaz and Madame4a: Mwah!

My as-yet unfulfilled fantasy is two second-row rugby guys, from New Zealand for preference; the name of their position [cough] is a lock ;-)

Also agree with VC et al. to not feed the creepy homophobe, and just talk to the nice preverts.

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 2:31:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tantriqu


It's no accident that SEAL en francais is phoque :-)
Even though that's a full frontal female, dammit!

And if we're voyeur-voting, I'm for the Peon back pic!


It's on my profile, nuclear fallout tan intact.

Is that seal really a female? You can't tell these days, can you? Maybe it was once a male, but it was pegged so often by a female that its wedding tackle rotted off.

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 3:48:20 PM   
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Female grey seals [or cows, shudder] have dainty little nosie-woses, tight skin, and are cigar-shaped.
Male seals [bulls, eyeroll] have 'Roman' honkers for snoots, wrinkled rolls of skin, and more manly shoulders.

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RE: Why do you need/like to use Strap-ons in Femdom? - 2/9/2011 4:10:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Bit of an aside - but you'd have thought nature would have designed something just above a man's dick that would work on the clit, though, wouldn't you? Bit of an oversight on God's part there, I feel.

Fingers, dude; you've got ten of them


Point of order Ma`am. During sex one hand is constantly in use as I flick through the sports channels, looking for something interesting to watch.

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