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RE: You can't explain that!' - 2/14/2011 8:00:01 PM

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44 more pages of God vs. No God coming up.

I can hardly wait.

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RE: You can't explain that!' - 2/14/2011 8:04:05 PM

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Or maybe you're making absolutely no attempt whatsoever to understand what it is she's trying to say because you're having too much fun ridiculing her and you don't want anything to get in the way of that.

I'm not making any attempt to ridicule.

But I find it impossible to have an honest conversation with those that believe because anything questioning their/your beliefs is deemed to be ridicule.

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RE: You can't explain that!' - 2/14/2011 9:29:47 PM

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But I find it impossible to have an honest conversation with those that believe because anything questioning their/your beliefs is deemed to be ridicule.

I was trying to have an honest conversation, I just didn't think I was getting my point across.

I'll ask you - do you see a difference between human needs, on the abstract, philosophical level, and the wants and desires of an individual human? Maybe I was too quick to give up...I don't mind clarifying what I meant if you're interested in hearing it. But the important distinction I'm trying to set, if we do continue an honest conversation, is that what I was saying before applied to the overall, abstract view of mankind, not the individual specificities of a man.

Does that make sense?

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RE: You can't explain that!' - 2/14/2011 9:56:51 PM

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Fox News commentator Bill O'Reilly recently tried to prove the existence of God with the now-infamous line, "Tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication. You can't explain why the tide goes in." As anybody with a rudimentary understanding of science is aware, the tides go in and out because of the moon and something called "gravity."

Read More: http://www.urlesque.com/2011/02/11/bill-oreilly-cant-explain-that-tide-meme/#ixzz1DuLJtvzV

I'm you name 10 other things which 'You can't explain that!'

Just from the little bit of that you posted I would have to agree with part of why he said. You have explained how not why. Science doesn't know why, only how. And when it tries to do why it fucks up.

Why do people fall in love? Why does the universe work the way it does? Is there no other way it can work? We can tell how but not why. Any why that is given is the opinion and best guess of one person or group of people.

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RE: You can't explain that!' - 2/14/2011 11:25:38 PM

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So, Bill O'Reilly has decided that, since He can't explain everything under the sun (and the sun itself), God must be doing it.

Maybe he's just ignorant.

NOTE: I'm not saying that those who believe in a deity are ignorant. I'm saying that if the ONLY reason they believe in said deity is to explain the things they dont know they are ARE ignorant.

That is what every theistic argument boils down to.

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RE: You can't explain that!' - 2/15/2011 5:21:35 AM

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But I find it impossible to have an honest conversation with those that believe because anything questioning their/your beliefs is deemed to be ridicule.

I was trying to have an honest conversation, I just didn't think I was getting my point across.

I'll ask you - do you see a difference between human needs, on the abstract, philosophical level, and the wants and desires of an individual human? Maybe I was too quick to give up...I don't mind clarifying what I meant if you're interested in hearing it. But the important distinction I'm trying to set, if we do continue an honest conversation, is that what I was saying before applied to the overall, abstract view of mankind, not the individual specificities of a man.

Does that make sense?

No, I don't see a difference.

How do you separate the individual from the whole?

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RE: You can't explain that!' - 2/15/2011 6:12:59 AM

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No, you don't seem to get it.

Organisms do not show evidence of conscience design but they are also not the products of a purely random process.

The part that seems to be misunderstood is that natural selection acts as a non random filter on the random mutations that occur in a population.

Perhaps it was just a poor choice of wording on my part; what you wrote doesn't appear to contradict what I meant, but is more detailed on the subject of evelolution, where I was only responding toward the applicability of the anologies presented.

Anyway, thanks for verifying. I appreciate it.

Kim

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