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RE: The Matrix Has YOU! NOT a conspiracy Just to Big fo... - 2/17/2011 5:49:48 PM   
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no you wont see that worthless shit passed across just laws of little importance to all you renters and trailer park dwellers.

Oh, go piss up a rope. Preferably one that's facing into the wind.

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RE: The Matrix Has YOU! NOT a conspiracy Just to Big fo... - 2/17/2011 5:53:53 PM   
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no ron lets say the words it takes to free a slave so it stands in law.


Yeah, $1500 bucks, when I cash the postal money order, you may have them. 


ron they have to say words that enfranchise them to create the assumption.






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RE: The Matrix Has YOU! NOT a conspiracy Just to Big fo... - 2/17/2011 5:58:24 PM   
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Darn...and I thought this was a thread about the real Matrix.

Shucks.

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RE: The Matrix Has YOU! NOT a conspiracy Just to Big fo... - 2/17/2011 6:23:10 PM   
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Perhaps there are those amongst us that feel life is not real, or would like to think that, but why fight the sytstem and be labelled a conspiracy theorist, when it is far easier to just comply and live a reasonable life, perhaps pre determined, as what is more important, the truth whatever that may be, better or worse, or just living a life as best one can.

If things are all cool in one's life, why look for trouble.


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RE: The Matrix Has YOU! NOT a conspiracy Just to Big fo... - 2/17/2011 8:14:39 PM   
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"If things are all cool in one's life, why look for trouble. "

An, because it is too late to think about "what if" when it actually happens.

Note that does not change my stance on this topic. It was simply a response to the question asked.

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RE: The Matrix Has YOU! NOT a conspiracy Just to Big fo... - 2/17/2011 10:25:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Perhaps there are those amongst us that feel life is not real, or would like to think that, but why fight the sytstem and be labelled a conspiracy theorist, when it is far easier to just comply and live a reasonable life, perhaps pre determined, as what is more important, the truth whatever that may be, better or worse, or just living a life as best one can.

If things are all cool in one's life, why look for trouble.



nothing in life is new.

the conspiracy "theory" approach is always part and party to a propaganda war.

Its no different with the terms birther and truther designed to be a pejorative because one thing that has proven to be correct throughout history is that slinging shit usually works.

Unfortunately if and until the people ever wake up it will continue to have its effects in getting down to the truth.

Unfortunately law has drifted from "truth" to presumption of truth becuase people buy the bs story about saving money in court cases.

well any time its the guv vs the people its a stacked deck against the people and the people should get free legal assistance of their choice and be able to get a full refund.

Believe me get that one thing through and you will see a government OF the people for the first time in history.

courts have no business what so ever being part of "government" unless you have a military or monarchy or dictatorship style government.

courts should be absolutely independent.


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RE: The Matrix Has YOU! NOT a conspiracy Just to Big fo... - 2/18/2011 12:23:37 AM   
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"Believe me get that one thing through and you will see a government OF the people for the first time in history. "

I doubt you even more. You don't understand, even if we win, all the politicians give back all the money and report to disintegration chambers, along with their entire families. And they sell their organs while they live to get us back our gold and silver. And they do every last thing you tell them to do, and you win. You did it, they are kneeling at your feet, waiting for execution, what do you do ?

And BTW, the last time I decided to pay court costs it was like $950, because they dropped about a dozen charges. How do I get my money back ? I already jumped paper, but that I can fight. But that doesn't get the money back. I've seen people protest the fees for obtaining public records, they usually acquiesce. But they never give money back, ever. If your bail is $500 you bet the fine or costs or whatever will be more. But did you want to bring up the fact that the court that assesses the fine doesn't get that money ? Did anyone mention that their favorite municipality, burrough or township has to pay taxes on it's income from those court costs ? Why haven't you brought this up ?

It's a money game and I've learned how to play it. You have to do the best for yourself and your's. Spitting at windmiulls is a waste of time.

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RE: The Matrix Has YOU! NOT a conspiracy Just to Big fo... - 2/18/2011 4:07:02 PM   
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"Believe me get that one thing through and you will see a government OF the people for the first time in history. "

I doubt you even more. You don't understand, even if we win, all the politicians give back all the money and report to disintegration chambers, along with their entire families. And they sell their organs while they live to get us back our gold and silver. And they do every last thing you tell them to do, and you win. You did it, they are kneeling at your feet, waiting for execution, what do you do ?

And BTW, the last time I decided to pay court costs it was like $950, because they dropped about a dozen charges. How do I get my money back ?

all court cases have CUSIP numbers, you put in an adverse claim to claim the proceeds file your 1099's and get busted if you do not do you due diligence and learn precisely how to do it :)   Yes full refund and sometimes more when the funds are disbursed.  as always NOT legal advice

I already jumped paper, but that I can fight. But that doesn't get the money back. I've seen people protest the fees for obtaining public records, they usually acquiesce. But they never give money back, ever. If your bail is $500 you bet the fine or costs or whatever will be more. But did you want to bring up the fact that the court that assesses the fine doesn't get that money ? Did anyone mention that their favorite municipality, burrough or township has to pay taxes on it's income from those court costs ? Why haven't you brought this up ?

It's a money game and I've learned how to play it. You have to do the best for yourself and your's. Spitting at windmiulls is a waste of time.

T^T


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RE: The Matrix Has YOU! NOT a conspiracy Just to Big fo... - 2/18/2011 10:59:20 PM   
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".......claim to claim the proceeds file your 1099's ......."
 
What's a 1099 ?

Play me. My legal senanigans result in me being out, on the street, at large so to speak. Your plan will get your sanity questioned. And in 10 mSec thought, I thought, maybe that is aproropriate.

Never count me among enemies, but I will not follow your leaders.

T^T

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RE: The Matrix Has YOU! NOT a conspiracy Just to Big fo... - 2/19/2011 9:11:14 AM   
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well like it or not you are in their "commercial" system.

They even converted God into a taxable event by defining it commercially.

you are entitled to recoupment under ucc 3-305 and 306.

full refund.

as always NOT legal advice


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RE: The Matrix Has YOU! NOT a conspiracy Just to Big fo... - 2/19/2011 10:32:36 AM   
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Fat chance to get it. Odds slightly better than winning the lottery I'd say.

I admire your diligence really, but you lack focus. You know who the enemy is, but you are playing the wrong game. If you get it through your head that things are not going to return to being "right", and simply carve out your own existence you'll be alot better off. Selfish ? Fuck yes.

When you're dead who cares who owns what ? This is the crux of the matter. If you want to leave something to someone, give it to them now. All you care is to have the use of it. Can you really own land ? Who the fuck did you buy it from ? I'm not saying what "they" do is right, and I don't deny most of the facts. The simple fact is if they can charge you property taxes that means they own it, it really is that simple and you must pay rent, referred to in a forgery as "rentes". That's what it is. I have a free and clear title deed to this house. Yet I have to pay a couple grand a year to keep it. A tax foreclosure is no different than an eviction. I simply don't pretend.

I am a super renter. I can knock down walls, drill holes in the floor for wires and pipes. I can add to the house or detract from it. I can build a garage if I so choose, and I can have a garden anywhere they fuck I want within my boundaries, i.e. the property line. Inside the line it's as mine as it'll ever get. But I don't really own it.

Now fucking get this. If I really did own it I would be guilty of recieveing stolen property. To own it lawfully I would have to buy it from whoever made it correct ? I don't think that entity got paid. Can you even begin to understand that ? The fact that you don't own anything, that you are merely a holder in due course during good behavior is enforced by paper. Fake deeds and titles only fool people into thinking they really own something. Giving up that illusion is not all that bad, once you get used to it. Once I'm dead, I may have named a new holder for my property, but he/she will not own it, they can only posses it, as I do now.

This is not acquiescence, it is reality. I am in reality. And if the Queen of England actually owns this place, as long as she keeps her mouth shut I don't give a shit. Think of all the people who rent. They can't knock down walls, some can't even have a fucking cookout. I'll grow pot in the yard if I feel like it. I'll do whatever I please. I've shot guns and detonated "things" in the yard. There have been fights out in the yard. As long as nobody calls the cops, nobody cares. Nobody in this neighborhood owns anything probably, but we collectively own this little corner of society.

If anyone can take anything from you, you don't own it. I sit here, with thousands worth of stolen media on the computer(s). If they can come in and take this shit, because it is a criminal tool, I never really owned it. I've watched stolen media on this Planar 19" montior, that means they can take it. If they can take it at all, that means I never owned it. Down to the brass tacks, the strongest own everything, because they have the ability to take it.

And that's the bottom line.

T^T

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