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pahunkboy -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/22/2011 11:50:46 AM)

So then apply for a loan modification?







Termyn8or -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/22/2011 5:34:35 PM)

"..somehow Term- I think you would have the last word- if you were in this same situation.   I am certain of it.       Let the bank eat cake... IMO. "

I would not be in this situation. It was about 20 years ago when some really hard times hit. It came down to food or the house payment. What do you think I did ?

I didn't read the opinion, but it sounds something like a dismissal without prejudice. That means they file again. If the same thing happens, they can file again and again. Eventually they will prevail if that happens. And it could.

You don't fuck with houses and cars. Everything else - sure. Wreck your credit. I did. I did it when it was to my advantage to do so. Now I have the oportunity soon to buy property free and clear. No loan. That's what kind of loser I am. Really, I'll look for a distressed seller, and a house that needs work.

Liar too. I can buy one that needs all kinds of work. I'll do it myself without a permit, and there will be no appraisal or inspection. If it ever comes up in the future my words will be "It was like that". Which will be true, it WAS like that yesterday, doesn't matter if I did the work years ago. That's a lie by nondisclosure, they do it all the time, and I don't take knives to a gunfight. It's up to them to find out when, if they have the time, and paper trail.

Fact is, if you can't pay your house payment, rent the thing out. Get a small apartment, suffer with that while building equity. You can come out of the deal with the house AND good credit. Renting it is not much worse than not maintaining it, or burning it.

Now to get to the higher thoughts which seem to elude many. People have won against the banks, rarely. More have lost. But if people start winning, there will have to be some changes made because this is an international thing now, and the faith in US based securities can be hurt badly by supposedly secured credit which cannot be repossesed. The possible repercussions for our debt based economy could be grave. Since there seems to be no way out of the credit based economy, the government will take steps to maintain the status quo.

Then it will be "their" turn. The laws will shift in favor of the creditors. Just what we need eh ?

And if not, the loan origination contracts will be modified. Sure, win the battle, but there is no way to win the war as long as we need their money. Period.

T^T




Termyn8or -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/22/2011 5:35:48 PM)

"So then apply for a loan modification? "

Don't bother. He has antagonized them. They are not friends now.

T^T




brokedickdog -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/23/2011 9:35:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: brokedickdog

I don't hate to say it. You're wrong.

Beyond one read of a 5 page appellate decision it is unlikely you have any other knowledge relating to the case, the issues, the arguments and/or the facts. In such instance it would be difficult for anyone to form a more ignorant, or less informed, opinion. The case has lasted more than 3 years and involves close to 1000 pages of pleadings.

That would be 1000 pages of pleadings by you that the appelate court ignored beyond whatever documentation was invovled in proving the lack of standing? The bank filed nothing according to the appelate court and the appelate court made a specific point that they were not ruling in your favor beyond the standing issue.

Unless you have something to render your mortgage contract void, basically it would have to violate state or federal laws on the matter or you were forced to sign it, or can prove that Duetsche Bank doesn't actually own the mortgage you are facing summary judgement again.



It is quite common for appellate courts to rule on only the first reversible error. That my court acted in this way likely has no significance beyond the court being wholly disinterested in doing any additional work, or heavy lifting. Courts are like most of us - they prefer the least amount of work possible.

Appellee failed to brief at all. My court could have reversed on that procedural error alone, making no meritorious determination whatsoever. Instead it chose to make a meritorious ruling, thereby doing at least some heavy lifting. You can draw your own conclusions on this, though it will likely be inaccurate and/or incomplete as your knowledge of the case is quite limited.

It would be patently unwise for me to discuss here any potential future strategies I may employ should DBNT decide to file another action. If that strikes some of you as being a cop out, so be it. I must err on the side of caution, not on the side of my image in the eyes of online personalities.




brokedickdog -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/23/2011 9:40:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

One. Simple. Question.

What is the greatest number of months you have been behind on your martgage payments?


It appears that 1) your abilities to comprehend what you read is rather limited, 2) your ability to remember what you have read is rather limited, 3) you didn't read the opinion at all.

Beyond that your attempt at reducing this extremely complex matter to a completely unrealistic and unobtainable  level of simplicity boggles the mind. That only serves to further undermine your own credibility.

My best suggestion for you is read up on contract law, the equity maxims and the doctrine of clean hands.




Arpig -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/23/2011 10:13:45 AM)

So tell me, why did you start this thread, other than to give RO a chance to post more of his inanity...I smell a sock-puppet.




brokedickdog -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/23/2011 11:50:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: outhere69

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ORIGINAL: brokedickdog

I don't hate to say it. You're wrong.

Beyond one read of a 5 page appellate decision it is unlikely you have any other knowledge relating to the case, the issues, the arguments and/or the facts. In such instance it would be difficult for anyone to form a more ignorant, or less informed, opinion. The case has lasted more than 3 years and involves close to 1000 pages of pleadings.

If you're interested in participating in a meaningful discussion about this I am willing to make myself available to you for such. Please let me know when you've acquired, read and have become thoroughly familiar with the entire case history, the rules of procedure, evidence and the statutes local to the case, the precedential decisions coming out of courts in other jurisdictions (state, federal and bankruptcy courts) for the past 3 years, as well as a minimum of 1000  recent and antiquated cases from the prior mentioned differing jurisdictions and courts (2000 cases would be of more benefit to you, particularly because you'll need to cover legal issues and arguments not related solely to foreclosure - If you need a list of suggested topics I'll be happy to provide one for you), any cases cited as authority in the cases you choose to read (and with any appellate level cases you'll need to read any and all lower court decisions and, if possible, the original trial court pleadings, and of course to shepardize any of the cases you do read and to follow up on any cases find in that research as well). Oh, you'll also need to review 5000 or more documents available in public land offices (deeds, deeds of trust, mortgages, assignments of mortgage, satisfactions of mortgage, liens, lien releases, etc.), and those from numerous jurisdictions as well.

Just let me know when you've caught up so that we can engage in discussions from a position of equal competency  and knowledge and we can see about scheduling a time convenient to us both.

Just why did you post then, if you didn't provide enough details for adequate debate?  For us to praise your great skill in jurisprudence?  I mean, christ on a crutch.



I posted because the opinion has statewide, as well as national, significance. Though it is marked "not to be published," and cannot be cited as binding precedent, pursuant to KY Rule of Civil Procedure 76.28(4)(c) it CAN be cited for consideration in KY. Nationally it can be cited as persuasive. In some instances other state courts look to the decisions of their sister states on similar issues when there is no case law in its own state.




brokedickdog -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/23/2011 12:03:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CarpeComa

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
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ORIGINAL: brokedickdog
I don't hate to say it. You're wrong.

Beyond one read of a 5 page appellate decision it is unlikely you have any other knowledge relating to the case, the issues, the arguments and/or the facts. In such instance it would be difficult for anyone to form a more ignorant, or less informed, opinion. The case has lasted more than 3 years and involves close to 1000 pages of pleadings.

That would be 1000 pages of pleadings by you that the appelate court ignored beyond whatever documentation was invovled in proving the lack of standing? The bank filed nothing according to the appelate court and the appelate court made a specific point that they were not ruling in your favor beyond the standing issue.

Unless you have something to render your mortgage contract void, basically it would have to violate state or federal laws on the matter or you were forced to sign it, or can prove that Duetsche Bank doesn't actually own the mortgage you are facing summary judgement again.

I have to agree with DomKen here. It likely won't be another three years and 1000 pages of filings so I am thinking yes, you won this round but soon...you will not win the next one. Then they will be either collecting from you, renegotiating with you if you are financially under water on your house or...auctioning your house.



I agree as well. Deutchse will refile because even though they didn't have standing then, they do now. The assignment is executed and you still haven't paid your mortgage in the three years since. I expect what happened was that Deutchse bought a slew of loans that were in default at pennies on the dollar and started foreclosure before all the paperwork was finished, hence the filing before execution of the assignment. The truth may even be that the assignment was lost/forgotten and had to be redrafted (happens a lot). The fact that they filed too soon does not change that you are still in default.



I more thorough understanding of "securitization," New York trust laws, and binding contracts involved will show you that MBS trusts are not able to lawfully acquire instruments in default.




brokedickdog -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/23/2011 12:09:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

The poor guy has all these realone/termy types cheering him on. None are going to be there to help him when he is homeless, which will be very soon.

It's really kind of sad.


Since taking up the appeal I've had support from a number of attorneys in my state, several neighboring states, and the pro se foreclosure defensive community. The opinion is already being cited as consideration in two cases I am aware of, one being in a hearing this Friday, and the other the first week of March. That will increase in the coming weeks and months.

It is also very unlikely I will be homeless as you say "very soon."




brokedickdog -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/23/2011 1:41:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
You call what I said cheering him on ? Not quite.


HUH?  Hayl yeh I will cheer them on!  Get the fucker for nuttin!   Money on mtv!

Term thats what those bastards have been doing to us since the begining of time.

Once people start to see the fraud and I am sure at this point of the game BDD is ass deep in dealing with it as I pointed out with the HIDC statement I made.

Its all fraud and "presumption".  the problem is and always has been to get to the courts in collusion with the banks to move to the merits of the case!

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¶ 10 Because we conclude that the court properly exercised its discretion in reopening the foreclosure action, we reject the Canos' corollary argument that the Bank was required to serve a new summons and complaint to commence new foreclosure proceedings. We turn, then, to the summary judgment proceedings. ¶ 11 We review summary judgment de novo, applying the same methodology as the circuit court. See Green Spring Farms v. Kersten, 136 Wis. 2d 304, 314-16, 401 N.W.2d 816 (1987). We first examine the pleadings to determine whether the plaintiff has stated a claim. Id. at 315. The Bank's complaint asserts that Diane Cano entered into a mortgage agreement with Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems, Inc., as a nominee for S&L Investment Lending, Inc., in July 2006. It asserts that the Bank is the current holder of the mortgage and Countrywide Home Loans, Inc., is the servicer of the mortgage. It states that the Canos failed to make their mortgage payments from January 2007 to the date of the complaint in April 2007. Thus, we conclude that the complaint states a claim for foreclosure. Diane Cano answered, denying that she had failed to make the payments. ¶ 12 Our next step in the summary judgment methodology is to examine whether the summary judgment submissions establish that the moving party is entitled to judgment as a matter of law. See id. We begin by examining the Bank's summary judgment submissions to determine whether it has established a prima facie case for summary judgment. See Palisades Collection LLC v. Kalal, 2010 WI App 38, ¶ 9, 324 Wis. 2d 180, 781 N.W.2d 503 (citation omitted). Only if the Bank has made a prima facie case do we turn to the Canos' submissions to determine if there are any material facts in dispute. See id. ¶ 13 The Bank submitted two affidavits to support its motion for summary judgment: one by an attorney for the Bank, and one by an agent for BAC Home Loans Servicing, L.P., f/k/a Countrywide Home Loans Servicing, L.P. ¶ 14 The attorney averred that Diane Cano executed a note secured by a mortgage on her property in July 2006; that an assignment of the mortgage to the Bank was recorded in June 2007; and that the Canos had failed to make the January 2007 and subsequent mortgage payments, leading the Bank to file this foreclosure action in April 2007. The attorney attached the following documents to his affidavit: the mortgage assignment; a statement of the Canos' mortgage payment history for September 2006 to May 2009 generated by Bank of America Home Loans on June 2, 2009, and indicating that the Canos' last mortgage payment was for December 2006; and a notice of default and acceleration Countrywide sent to Diane Cano in February 2007. ¶ 15 The BAC agent averred that he had access to the financial records for the Canos' mortgage; that Diane Cano executed a mortgage to Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems, Inc., acting as nominee for S&L Investment Lending, Inc.; and that the Canos had failed to make their January 2007 and subsequent mortgage payments. The agent did not attach any documents to his affidavit. ¶ 16 We conclude that the Bank's affidavits do not establish a prima facie case for summary judgment. Affidavits supporting a summary judgment motion must be based on personal knowledge and "set forth such evidentiary facts as would be admissible in evidence."[4] WIS. STAT. § 802.08(3). Nothing in the attorney's affidavit indicates that the attorney's averments as to the Canos' payment history are based on personal knowledge. To the extent that the affidavit relies on the attached payment history with Bank of America, we conclude that the affidavit does not set forth the facts necessary to establish a prima facie case that the bank's purported payment history would be admissible at trial. ¶ 17 As we explained in Palisades, an affidavit must establish a prima facie case that attached payment statements are admissible evidence under an exception to the hearsay rule to support a motion for summary judgment. See Palisades, 324 Wis. 2d 180, ¶ 11 & n.3; WIS. STAT. § 908.01(3) (defining "hearsay" as "a statement, other than one made by the declarant while testifying at the trial or hearing, offered in evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted") and § 908.02 (hearsay generally inadmissible). Here, the only arguably applicable exception to the hearsay rule is the exception for business records under WIS. STAT. § 908.03(6) (records "made at or near the time by, or from information transmitted by, a person with knowledge, all in the course of a regularly conducted activity, as shown by the testimony of the custodian or other qualified witness" are not excluded by hearsay rule). Thus, for the statement of the Canos' payments to support a motion for summary judgment, the affidavit must establish that the affiant "is qualified to testify that: (1) the records were made at or near the time by, or from information transmitted by, a person with knowledge; and (2) this was done in the course of a regularly conducted activity." Palisades, 324 Wis. 2d 180, ¶ 15. The attorney's affidavit contains no such averments. ¶ 18 The BAC agent's affidavit is similarly flawed. The agent avers that his knowledge of the Canos' default on their mortgage is based on his access to the financial records for the Canos' mortgage, yet no financial documents are attached to the affidavit. Even if we assume the BAC agent is referring to the statement attached to the attorney's affidavit, the agent's affidavit fails to set forth the necessary facts to establish a prima facie case for the admissibility of the statement. The agent's affidavit does not contain any facts to show that the agent is qualified to testify that the statement generated by Bank of America on June 2, 2009, was "made at or near the time by, or from information transmitted by, a person with knowledge," or that "this was done in the course of a regularly conducted activity."[5] Id. We conclude that the Bank has not established a prima facie case for summary judgment.[6] Accordingly, we reverse and remand for further proceedings. By the Court.—Judgment reversed and cause remanded for proceedings consistent with this opinion. This opinion will not be published. See WIS. STAT. RULE 809.23(1)(b)5. [1] All references to the Wisconsin Statutes are to the 2007-08 version unless otherwise noted. [2] The transcript of the hearing indicates that only Mario Cano appeared at the hearing, although Diane Cano later implied in a letter to the court that she was present at the hearing, as well. [3] In initially opposing the Bank's foreclosure complaint, the Canos submitted documents indicating the Canos made their mortgage payments to S&L Investment Lending, Inc., through April 2007. While those documents are in the record, they were not submitted to the court in response to the Bank's motion for summary judgment. [4] In Palisades Collection LLC v. Kalal, 2010 WI App 38, ¶ ¶ 12-15, 324 Wis. 2d 180, 781 N.W.2d 503, we declined to resolve the parties' dispute over whether our review of the circuit court's decision on the admissibility of the summary judgment material was de novo or discretionary, because no reasonable view of the affidavit established that the evidence was admissible. We reach the same conclusion here. [5] In addition, the assignment attached to the Bank's counsel's affidavit shows that the alleged default from January to April 2007 occurred prior to the mortgage assignment to the Bank in May 2007. Thus, a reasonable inference is that the agent for the Bank's servicer, BAC, did not have personal knowledge of how the payment records for January to April 2007 were made. [6] Because we conclude that the Bank has not established a prima facie case for summary judgment, we need not examine the Canos' summary judgment submissions. Additionally, we need not address the Canos' argument that the circuit court erred by granting summary judgment upon the Bank's motion for reconsideration without providing the required twenty-day notice under Wis. Stat. § 802.08(2).






I read the Cano opinion the day it came. There were several similar opinions in NJ and OH at about the same time that all hinged on evidentiary issues and defects that were decided favorably for homeowners. I have been pressing the evidentiary issues and arguments for over 2 years and finally some local counsel are beginning to pay attention and understand. The Wisconsin, New Jersey and Ohio defensive BAR obviously have been putting forth these arguments for some time as it takes significant time to bring and conclude an appeal.

Even after reading the Cano opinion I had not read the Wisconsin rule on summary. I have just done so and I'm disappointed to see there is not a provision similar to that in other states that, in addition to requiring that copies of any records or documents referred to in an affidavit be attached to the affidavit, the copies of the records and/or documents must also be sworn or certified. This provision, if Wisconsin had such, would likely be found in 802.08(3). The Wisconsin rule on summary is found in 802.08 generally, and can be seen at:

http://legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/Stat0802.pdf 

If one were to review prior versions of the Wisconsin rules it may be that a provision of this nature has been removed by a prior amendment of its rules.

It may also be the argument fell short of being complete. I am unfamiliar with the Wisconsin Rules of Evidence (and see no specific value in becoming so) but it appears a rather strong argument for the copies being certiied, sworn or authenticated could have been made pursuant to 909.02(12), available at:

http://legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/Stat0909.pdf

Among the dynamics clearly developing in judicial foreclosure states is that 1) plaintiffs rarely submit evidence admissible under the rules of evidence and when the rules are applied properly the cases frequently fall apart (how can you win a case when all of your evidence has been excluded), 2) when good discovery is run many cases are settled out of court and voluntarily withdrawn by plaintiff (with nondislcosure agreements so it is not possible to know what any settlements entail).

It would be easy to draw the conclusion that plaintiffs CANNOT provide admissible evidence. It would, however, be premature to jump to that conclusion. While there is an emerging pattern it has not yet developed substantially enough to accurately draw that conclusion. At the same time it is also important to know that 96% of foreclosure cases are not defended in any way whatsoever. Of the remaining 4% of cases that are defended many of them have not been defended zealously and are largely a matter of an attorney accepting a retainer, filing one or two boiler plate pleadings and then withdrawing. Ultimately the homeowner is dispossessed of the property and is rendered several thousand dollars poorer in the process. In other words very few cases are adequately defended.

Also of note in the Cano opinion is the express language of the court stating it is passing on a review and ruling in regard to other of the assignments of error put forth by Cano. As mentioned previously this is common behavior of appellate courts - find the first reversible error and issue the opinion based solely upon that error.




kalikshama -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/23/2011 3:52:29 PM)

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I posted because the opinion has statewide, as well as national, significance. Though it is marked "not to be published," and cannot be cited as binding precedent, pursuant to KY Rule of Civil Procedure 76.28(4)(c) it CAN be cited for consideration in KY. Nationally it can be cited as persuasive. In some instances other state courts look to the decisions of their sister states on similar issues when there is no case law in its own state.


I certainly hope you posted in other venues than this!




luckydawg -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/23/2011 4:05:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: brokedickdog

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

The poor guy has all these realone/termy types cheering him on. None are going to be there to help him when he is homeless, which will be very soon.

It's really kind of sad.


Since taking up the appeal I've had support from a number of attorneys in my state, several neighboring states, and the pro se foreclosure defensive community. The opinion is already being cited as consideration in two cases I am aware of, one being in a hearing this Friday, and the other the first week of March. That will increase in the coming weeks and months.

It is also very unlikely I will be homeless as you say "very soon."



Your right, you probably have a place lined up to stay after they take the house your squating in....





littlewonder -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/23/2011 4:05:36 PM)

funny...has statewide and national significance.....and you post it to a sex site lol





DarkSteven -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/23/2011 5:57:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

So then apply for a loan modification?



He hasn't paid the mortgage for three and a half years.  The banks are pretty sure if they grant the mod, he won't pay then either.  So assuming he will be getting sued, they might as well get to sue him for a greater amount.




brokedickdog -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/23/2011 7:12:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

funny...has statewide and national significance.....and you post it to a sex site lol




Yeah, I posted it here, as the last place I posted it, primarily as a courtesy to anyone here that may also be experiencing a fraudulently based illegal foreclosure.

It is pretty clear that few, if any of you, have any genuine interest in this, or in any knowledge or real time experience I have, and would prefer to remain willfully ignorant and cast aspersions at others rather than get off your butts and truly advocate for anything or anyone. Many of you have so many posts here on the forums it begs the question of whether you actually DO anything at all other sit in front of your computers and give derogatory armchair commentary. Nothing but fluff.

You're welcome to continue throwing stones here. But I'm gonna get back to work.




Termyn8or -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/23/2011 7:56:51 PM)

How can a case be marked not to be cited when it's an appelate court ? Doesn't make much sense. Are they waiting for the next appeal ?

You know it's an aneathma for them to be overturned, maybe that's it ? Another court of the same or higher jurisdiction could technically overturn the appeal without doing it offcially. I suggest the utmost caution here.

As I alluded to before (not that nyone else really gets it), watch out, on the next round they will come out bigger and badder. Hope you got your Ts dotted and your Is crossed :-)

In the end, they might figure on just raising you off the table.

T^T




luckydawg -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/23/2011 8:03:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: brokedickdog

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

funny...has statewide and national significance.....and you post it to a sex site lol




Yeah, I posted it here, as the last place I posted it, primarily as a courtesy to anyone here that may also be experiencing a fraudulently based illegal foreclosure.

It is pretty clear that few, if any of you, have any genuine interest in this, or in any knowledge or real time experience I have, and would prefer to remain willfully ignorant and cast aspersions at others rather than get off your butts and truly advocate for anything or anyone. Many of you have so many posts here on the forums it begs the question of whether you actually DO anything at all other sit in front of your computers and give derogatory armchair commentary. Nothing but fluff.

You're welcome to continue throwing stones here. But I'm gonna get back to work.




You are correct, I think an asshole, who isn't paying his mortage forcing the State to spend untold hours litigating and dealing with an asshole who wants to steal from the community, via a "loophole", is not worth advocating for.

I hope you lose and have to pay all court costs.






CarpeComa -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/23/2011 9:36:28 PM)

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I posted because the opinion has statewide, as well as national, significance. Though it is marked "not to be published," and cannot be cited as binding precedent, pursuant to KY Rule of Civil Procedure 76.28(4)(c) it CAN be cited for consideration in KY. Nationally it can be cited as persuasive. In some instances other state courts look to the decisions of their sister states on similar issues when there is no case law in its own state.


Hate to burst your bubble, but you are counting your chickens before they are awarded by the court. What they ruled on was nothing of significance (needing an assignment before filing for foreclosure), which is why it was unpublished. They did not rule on them having no standing because Deutsche was a MBS trust. You say they did that was because they were lazy. Perhaps they were just tired of dealing with all the pleadings and decided to kick the ball into someone else's court.

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I more thorough understanding of "securitization," New York trust laws, and binding contracts involved will show you that MBS trusts are not able to lawfully acquire instruments in default.


You are in Kentucky and Deutsche is a German bank, I wonder how New York trust laws matter in this.

I work in very closely related field. If this was really that big of a deal, alarm bells would be going off and emergency meetings would be being held at work. I know that you are feeling very personally vindicated about the judgment being that you were a pro se defendant, but this is just a brief reprieve, not an end.




suhlut -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/23/2011 9:58:16 PM)

I am sooooo so sooo glad... we used last years tax return..to finish paying off the mortgage. Economy..scared the crap outta us..and we bit the bullet..and paid it off.




DomKen -> RE: Another foreclosure story with a difference (MINE) (2/24/2011 5:20:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: brokedickdog
I posted because the opinion has statewide, as well as national, significance. Though it is marked "not to be published," and cannot be cited as binding precedent, pursuant to KY Rule of Civil Procedure 76.28(4)(c) it CAN be cited for consideration in KY. Nationally it can be cited as persuasive. In some instances other state courts look to the decisions of their sister states on similar issues when there is no case law in its own state.

No, it doesn't. The appelate ruling is over a fairly standard standings issue. There is no new interpretation of the law.




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