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Sanity -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/20/2011 9:39:21 AM)


Maybe we should boycott everything British

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Look. It was an environmental disaster, and the consequences will be with us for a while. Of all the possible places the oil could have gone, the bottom of the Gulf was probably the best of bad options.

I still largely avoid buying my gas at AM/PM.




Louve00 -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/20/2011 9:57:04 AM)

I very much agree with you there, Heretic.  It was an environmental disaster.  We should take the lesson AS a lesson and learn from it.  IE...if you want to be in the big money of big oil, then know what the hell you are doing so you can actually be of some help *IF* a disaster happens.  Don't just go pulling out 30 year old solutions that didn't work 30 years ago and certainly didn't work during the deep water drilling incident, then turn around and start blaming gov't for the happening.  And while BP may not actually be blaming gov't for the happening, too many are blaming gov't for handling the responsibility big oil companies should have already taken before embarking on this endeavor.  Certainly not ignoring the warnings of potential disasters as short cuts were being taken to make deadlines and save even more money.

For what its worth, I still boycot BP too and its associated companies which include Castrol, Arco, Aral, am/pm, Amoco, Wild Bean Cafe. BP also owns international companies, but since I don't travel, I couldn't name them all for ya [;)]




TheHeretic -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/20/2011 10:20:34 AM)

Is there much left to boycott?




DomKen -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/20/2011 10:29:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Oh, bullshit. DomKen tried to push the lie that the entire gulf  was full of oil, and the bleating heart liberals here all fell for the lie. The only one bucking the bullshit was me, but now you and yours are trying to twist that into a new lie, but whatever. Spin away...


Liar. I never pushed any such thing. This has been explained to you before.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/20/2011 10:33:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Is there much left to boycott?


I have already pledged never to drink tea again so long as I live.

I'm with you on the BP thing. Haven't bought gas at a BP since the well blew. The only two gas stations in my immediate neighborhood are BP, and I drive a mile to the nearest Holiday every time I want gas. I just can't bring myself to pull into a BP station and pull my card out of my wallet.




Hillwilliam -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/20/2011 11:59:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


When did BP (or anyone else) say it was "all gone"?

Lying for that dramatic liberal effect again, are you?



Ok, sanity, they said it would be gone in 10 months from now. Aint happenin. Not now or ever. Try a science course some day.




Hillwilliam -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/20/2011 12:00:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Maybe we should boycott everything British

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Look. It was an environmental disaster, and the consequences will be with us for a while. Of all the possible places the oil could have gone, the bottom of the Gulf was probably the best of bad options.

I still largely avoid buying my gas at AM/PM.


By the way, sanity, I like your new avatar. It fits. A pussy hiding up in a tree.




Sanity -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/20/2011 2:13:33 PM)


Said the big chicken? [8|]

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DomYngBlk -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/20/2011 2:19:38 PM)

The biggest problem with the whole thing is that Feinberg has stood in the road yelling "all is well" .....so that he can stop paying the people hurt by the disaster. Sucking on the tit of big oil once again. And yes, Obama, can get some of the blame for that




Hillwilliam -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/20/2011 2:33:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Said the big chicken? [8|]

[image]http://www.collarme.com/photos/tn/tn_711646.jpg[/image]

Cock, dude, COCK. You never been on a farm?

I've seen a rooster tree a barn cat before. Kinda funny.




rulemylife -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/20/2011 3:33:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

The biggest problem with the whole thing is that Feinberg has stood in the road yelling "all is well" .....


Videos of Kevin Bacon - Animal House - All Is Well!




rulemylife -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/20/2011 4:14:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Nowhere did I or anyone else claim there was no problem and, just out of curiosity, why did you choose to omit any link to the post?



I omitted the link in the sadly mistaken hope that for once you would own up to your words.

But here is the thread sunshine, authored by you.

And just to help out what seems to be your failing memory, I included another quote where you absolutely never claimed there was not a problem.  [8|]

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Microbes ate BP oil deep-water plume: study - 8/24/2010 3:02:05 PM




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ORIGINAL: Sanity


From the AP:

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New microbe discovered eating oil spill in Gulf



This microbe thrives in cold water, with temperatures in the deep recorded at 5 degrees Celsius (41 Fahrenheit).

Hazen suggested that the bacteria may have adapted over time due to periodic leaks and natural seeps of oil in the Gulf...


And again, from the article I quoted for the OP:

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...natural oil seeps in the Gulf of Mexico have put out the equivalent of an Exxon Valdez spill each year, Hazen said.


Large quantities of oil occur in the Gulf of Mexico naturally, and it has a newly discovered natural microbial enemy - which is extremely good news for everyone except those on the far left who are unwilling to accept the science for purely ideological reasons which make sense to no one but themselves.


 





rulemylife -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/20/2011 4:16:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Oh, bullshit. DomKen tried to push the lie that the entire gulf  was full of oil, and the bleating heart liberals here all fell for the lie. The only one bucking the bullshit was me, but now you and yours are trying to twist that into a new lie, but whatever. Spin away...



Gosh!

You were the only with the courage to stand up against those lies?

You're my hero.

Would you mind if I told Rush and Sean?




MrRodgers -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/21/2011 7:05:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Oh, bullshit. DomKen tried to push the lie that the entire gulf  was full of oil, and the bleating heart liberals here all fell for the lie. The only one bucking the bullshit was me, but now you and yours are trying to twist that into a new lie, but whatever. Spin away...


Hey now, we got it from the best news source around when Fox News commentators said...what oil ? How can there be an oil problem if there was...no oil ?




Sanity -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/21/2011 7:15:04 PM)


Yeah, another lie.

Typical.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Hey now, we got it from the best news source around when Fox News commentators said...what oil ? How can there be an oil problem if there was...no oil ?





Louve00 -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/22/2011 4:08:16 AM)

I guess this is a lie too.  Or no (silly me) wait....BP is the exhaulted conservative here and the Coastal Protection and Restoration Authority are the bad, bad liberals.  Or maybe just Mississippi is liberal.  Or hell, just maybe the whole south is liberal. 

BP has reneged on promises made in November to negotiate early payments to Louisiana to help rebuild oyster beds, repair damaged wetlands and build a fish hatchery to allow the state to respond immediately to the collapse of commercial fisheries in the wake of the BP Gulf oil spill, state officials said Monday.
 [image]http://media.nola.com/tpphotos/photo/8588798-large.jpg[/image]Times-Picayune archiveThe state contends that its decision to open freshwater diversions along the Mississippi River to full blast at the height of the oil spill kept oil from entering the oyster beds, though the fresh water killed the oysters.

Coastal Protection and Restoration Authority chairman Garret Graves and Department of Wildlife & Fisheries director Robert Barham said the state will instead scramble to find millions of dollars to begin the work itself, then bill BP for the costs.

"BP has clearly changed their approach," Barham said. "All we've asked is for them to do what they said they would do in their commercials, be here for the long haul and make it right."
Instead, he said, the company has clearly moved from a public relations strategy to one focusing on litigation over whether damage to the state's oyster beds was BP's fault.

The state contends that its decision to open many freshwater diversions along the Mississippi River to full blast at the height of the oil spill kept oil from entering the oyster beds, though the fresh water killed the oysters, requiring the beds to be restocked with cultch, oyster shell deposited beneath the water on which oyster larvae grow.


"Their response today was that we see no evidence of oil injuring the oysters," Barham said. U.S. Sen. David Vitter, R-La., had asked BP to pay $15 million for new oyster cultch, and even that would not have been enough money to restock all the beds that were damaged in St. Bernard, Plaquemines, Jefferson and Lafourche parishes, he said.
Wildlife & Fisheries is financed by license fees, with little help from the state budget. And those fees were another casualty of the spill that BP has not acted on, Barham said.

"We had made a claim for lost recreational license sales and BP had, quote, agreed to pay $2.5 million for our loss of license revenue back in December and we still haven't received a dime," he said. The reason is that the state has refused to sign an agreement with BP that would release the company from liability "for everyone they've ever done business with, an impossible release for us to sign." Still, his department will come up with about $2 million for the cultch project.

 Graves will be looking for money in other state coastal restoration programs to pay for planting wetland grasses and other repairs to stabilize banks of canals and streams damaged by oil from the spill. "We're looking for any emergency funds the state has," Graves said. "We're currently flipping couches over to figure out what change is there. To be clear, we don't have any expectation to find tens of millions of dollars that aren't already tied down to other important uses in the state budget, but we do think we can find several millions of dollars to pay for immediate actions to stop critical losses of wetlands and start the rebuilding of oysters."

At the November news conference, Gov. Bobby Jindal and BP America Chairman and President Lamar McKay announced that BP would advance the state $218 million for seafood marketing, tourism promotion and barrier island restoration. Jindal also announced that the state was working with BP on a separate agreement to help finance construction of a fish hatchery and two fish grow-out facilities and to help underwrite the cost of the oyster seeding program. A spokesman for BP's new Gulf Coast Restoration Organization, now leading the oil spill response effort in Louisiana, could not be reached for comment Monday night.

The hatchery and grow-out facilities are estimate to cost $48 million and would be built over several years, just in case of an unforeseen collapse of an important commercial fishery in Louisiana waters, Barham said.


After the Exxon Valdez tanker grounding and spill in Prince William Sound, commercial fishing continued for about four years when herring disappeared, decimating an entire fishing industry in the area, Barham said. Today, he said, Alaska fisheries scientists link remnant oil from the spill to a steady decline in the area's salmon fishery, as well.


"They had talked favorably about it, but it's just another indication that they're now going to take the position of saying no to everything and go to court," Barham said.
Barham said the state also is facing another major disagreement with BP over the acceptability of the cleanup of the Elmer's Island beach in southernmost Lafourche Parish.

"BP a couple of weeks ago said they're now looking to natural processes to finish the degradation of oil," he said. "But at Elmer's Island refuge, there are new tar balls coming ashore. Apparently, a mat of oil is in the subtidal zone just offshore and now it's coagulating again and creating a fresh supply of oil."

He said that LSU toxicologist Ralph Portier conducted tests on subsurface sand samples from the beach area and found troubling concentrations of carcinogenic polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, including benzene, xylene and toluene. "Cleaning the surface did not get rid of them," Barham said of the oil spill response cleanup efforts on the beach. "Before we can open that refuge and let little kids out there with buckets and shovels to build sand castles, we don't want them turning up PAHs. We want to know what their plan is to deal with it.

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Published: Monday, February 21, 2011, 7:38 PM

http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2011/02/bp_reneges_on_deal_to_rebuild.html



The article was published just yesterday.  I can also post another article where baby dolphins are being aborted or dying when they're first born.  In the gulf.  (But don't pay attention Sanity...just chalk it up to liberal hear-say) [8|]






servantforuse -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/22/2011 5:20:50 AM)

Maybe you BP boycotters should be blaming the Obama administration for not holding BP to their agreements. Feinberg is his guy.




Hillwilliam -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/22/2011 5:30:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Louve00


The article was published just yesterday.  I can also post another article where baby dolphins are being aborted or dying when they're first born.  In the gulf.  (But don't pay attention Sanity...just chalk it up to liberal hear-say) [8|]




That will motivate the Republicans. BP caused and abetted abortions.




rulemylife -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/22/2011 5:38:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Maybe you BP boycotters should be blaming the Obama administration for not holding BP to their agreements. Feinberg is his guy.


You mean the agreement that you said was extortion?




thishereboi -> RE: But BP said it was all gone (2/22/2011 6:08:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
you jackass



If you keep up with these personal attacks on other posters, RML, someone just might have to report you to the mods.



I doubt they will do anything.




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