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But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 6:47:19 AM   
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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 6:53:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ah well, what did one expect, out of sight being out of mind, it was patently obvious pollution was not going to be got rid of that easily and as it has been found of US shores, just think of all those other places which are not off US shores, other parts of the world where western industry has well and truly fucked up in it's search for power and wealth.

For every bit of industry pollution we find within our own well policed borders, multiply that by many times when thinking of other parts of the world, where the media eye is most dim.


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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 6:53:44 AM   
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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 7:03:14 AM   
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BP: Oil Spill Victims Receiving Too Much Money

The administrator of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill fund, worth about $20 billion, is receiving heat from BP. The oil company claims that administrator Kenneth R. Feinburg's formula for determining the final payments to those who filed for compensation is not strict enough and is too generous. According to BP's official statement, Feinburg's formula over-inflates the future expected losses for victims of the Gulf oil spill.


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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 7:31:05 AM   
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When did BP (or anyone else) say it was "all gone"?

Lying for that dramatic liberal effect again, are you?



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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 7:46:37 AM   
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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 8:04:06 AM   
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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 8:05:41 AM   
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When did BP (or anyone else) say it was "all gone"?


lol,  shall we go back and pull up your own post?

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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 8:32:14 AM   
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Do you suffer from memory problems, on top of everything else? I never wrote that it was all gone, or anything of the sort. What I pointed out was how the far left extremists who like to see the  price of fuel skyrocket, who love seeing Americans dependent on foreign oil sources, had grossly exaggerated the problem.

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When did BP (or anyone else) say it was "all gone"?


lol,  shall we go back and pull up your own post?







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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 8:46:00 AM   
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When did BP (or anyone else) say it was "all gone"?

Lying for that dramatic liberal effect again, are you?




You did you jackass!!!!!!!!!!!


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More good news from the Gulf! 

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Microbes ate BP oil deep-water plume: study

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A Manhattan-sized plume of oil spewed deep into the Gulf of Mexico by BP's broken Macondo well has been consumed by a newly discovered fast-eating species of microbes, scientists reported on Tuesday.


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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 8:47:52 AM   
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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 8:53:47 AM   
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you jackass



If you keep up with these personal attacks on other posters, RML, someone just might have to report you to the mods.

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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 9:01:20 AM   
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you jackass



If you keep up with these personal attacks on other posters, RML, someone just might have to report you to the mods.


Go for it Richie.

If I get modded for pointing out the lies that have become endemic on this board then so be it.

It's well worth the effort.

Edited to add that it's interesting how you clipped what I said completely out of context.

Know what I mean about those lies now?






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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 9:07:49 AM   
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Nowhere did I or anyone else claim there was no problem and, just out of curiosity, why did you choose to omit any link to the post?


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


When did BP (or anyone else) say it was "all gone"?

Lying for that dramatic liberal effect again, are you?




You did you jackass!!!!!!!!!!!


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


More good news from the Gulf! 

quote:

Microbes ate BP oil deep-water plume: study

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A Manhattan-sized plume of oil spewed deep into the Gulf of Mexico by BP's broken Macondo well has been consumed by a newly discovered fast-eating species of microbes, scientists reported on Tuesday.




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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 9:14:56 AM   
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Here is the entire post, with a link included. Note I wrote that it was good news, which obviously it was... unless youre a wild eyed libtard, who needs crisis and mayhem to push your far left agenda along.

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More good news from the Gulf! 

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Microbes ate BP oil deep-water plume: study

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A Manhattan-sized plume of oil spewed deep into the Gulf of Mexico by BP's broken Macondo well has been consumed by a newly discovered fast-eating species of microbes, scientists reported on Tuesday.

The micro-organisms were apparently stimulated by the massive oil spill that began in April, and they degraded the hydrocarbons so efficiently that the plume is now undetectable, said Terry Hazen of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory.

These so-called proteobacteria -- Hazen calls them "bugs" -- have adapted to the cold deep water where the big BP plume was observed and are able to biodegrade hydrocarbons much more quickly than expected, without significantly depleting oxygen as most known oil-depleting bacteria do....


FEASTING ON HYDROCARBONS Long before humans drilled for oil, natural oil seeps in the Gulf of Mexico have put out the equivalent of an Exxon Valdez spill each year, Hazen said.

Another factor was the consistency of the oil that came from the Macondo wellhead: light sweet Louisiana crude, an easily digestible substance for bacteria, and it was dispersed into tiny droplets, which also makes it more biodegradable. These latest findings may initially seem to be at odds with a study published last Thursday in Science by researchers from Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, which confirmed the existence of the oil plume and said micro-organisms did not seem to be biodegrading it very quickly.

However, Hazen and Rich Camilli of Woods Hole both said on Tuesday that the studies complement each other.

Full article here



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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 9:15:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, I can't believe I'm going to say this, but here goes.  As much as I too, disagreed with Sanity's logic on "where the oil and dispersant was" and "what would be the outcome", I have to say my biggest beef was with him making it a polical thing.  If you agreed that the oil slick didn't vanish, and if you thought there would be serious after-effects as a result, than Sanity was into pointing his finger at you and calling you a libtard/dem/whatever the latest and greatest insult is to a political party is, these days. 

If you thought deep water drilling for oil should carry on as usual, then you were a republican, who had to take pity on the liberals who "didn't get it".  My whole fear is there have been underwater drilling disasters in waters of the gulf that were not as deep as this latest one in the deep waters of the gulf.  And my point of being FOR putting a halt for deep water drilling was that, while these huge oil companies make all their money and people cry "yay for capitalism" and "everyone has a right to earn money", was while they were and still are no doubtedly making hand over fist money in big oil, they don't want to USE some of that money to UNDERSTAND the implications and problems that can occur with drilling in deep waters.  They don't want to SPEND that money their drilling made them to make it a safer operation and be a responsible business man about it.

They just want to criticize Obama for putting it on hold and it still hasn't dawned on anyone that if an oil company did take the time to actually do some studies and research and be willing to take the extra money to make it a safe operation, instead of screaming and crying like babies that the gov't wants to regulate them because they don't want to take responsibility and accountability to regulate themselves, the gov't may just listen to the proof, take the time to look and see they have indeed put safety precautions in place and give a go ahead. 

I don't believe Sanity actually thought it just "vanished".  If he did, then I gave him credit he shouldn't have gotten.  What I despised about the whole thing was there was no accountability and responsibility to continue the operation safely.  It was more important (in the name of capitalism ) to just keep on drilling ignorantly...making as much money as you could and earning  BIG money hand over fist...without taking responsibility or even being able to know how to stop a disaster should it happen (and the disaster happened, annd no one knew how to stop it...and an even bigger and was, it had happened 30 something years earlier in the gulf just in more shallow water, they still didnt know how to stop it and still used the same tactics proven to be unsuccessful then with the deep water accident), which takes putting a little bit of that made money into R&D to make it even better....and safer.  Without spending money to gain knowledge of how to drill safely...especially in deep water...I still think Obama made the right decision by putting the brakes on it all.  IF an oil company wants to take the time to spend on R&D effectively, I too would re-think my position on my opinion on it all.  But as far as I know, despite the disaster, that is yet to start happening.  People just want to argue that Obama was wrong for stopping it...and quite frankly I view that not as a republican or polical thing, but as a responsible thing. 

If big oil won't take precautions to do a job safely and without adversely effecting peoples' lives just for the sake of money, then someone has to save us from ourselves.


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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 9:19:26 AM   
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Oh, bullshit. DomKen tried to push the lie that the entire gulf  was full of oil, and the bleating heart liberals here all fell for the lie. The only one bucking the bullshit was me, but now you and yours are trying to twist that into a new lie, but whatever. Spin away...


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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 9:23:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		DomKen posted a picture of NASA.  And you, Sanity, tried to say DK was insinuating all that muddy water was oil, when just reading that picture he posted, said (in words) where the oil was and it was in those silvery ribbons you saw here and there through out the gulf.  YOU were the one who jumped the gun on what he was trying to show us.  And, come to find out, the oil we were seeing on the TOP of the water was just the beginning.  The oil that was sunk by dispersants were already on their way to doing their own damage.  An unseen damage.  So don't tell me bullshit.  You were the one assuming the brown muddy waters of the mississippi was oil.  Those who actually read the article, instead of blaming liberals, read what they were seeing!! 

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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 9:33:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Look. It was an environmental disaster, and the consequences will be with us for a while. Of all the possible places the oil could have gone, the bottom of the Gulf was probably the best of bad options.

I still largely avoid buying my gas at AM/PM.

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RE: But BP said it was all gone - 2/20/2011 9:36:04 AM   
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What I pointed out was how the far left extremists who like to see the  price of fuel skyrocket, who love seeing Americans dependent on foreign oil sources, had grossly exaggerated the problem.


Jimmy Carter wasn't a leftist then? I don't think he was mad keen on high fuel prices and OPEC having you over a barrel.

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