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kittensmailbox -> From the smokinggun (5/4/2006 11:52:59 AM)


""While not exactly legally binding, a "slavery contract" can come in handy when a master needs to spell out "duties of servitude" and levels of punishment for his chattel. Well, at least that's what we've heard:""

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0501061contract1.html



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: From the smokinggun (5/4/2006 11:59:43 AM)

http://www.collarchat.com/m_275753/mpage_1/key_contract/tm.htm#275753
No Protective Order for woman who signed contract



LadyHugs -> RE: From the smokinggun (5/4/2006 12:07:48 PM)

Dear kittensmailbox, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
Slave contracts are not legal binding at this time however, if memory serves me correctly Indenture is still on the books as being legal.  The loop hole remained behind, to which was used in the Colonial days, to which remains through the present day.
 
All contracts that are written, are wonderful and tangible testiments to what "is" and as time passes what "was," as things change and grow that causes the need to ammend the contract.  Contracts make a good reference as to what expectations and duties were created as to fit those individuals at that point and time.  So, if either party broke the contract the remedies and options of the breech contract would give the ability to leave the agreement, ammend the agreement and or pay penalties of that agreement broken.
 
Contracts merely state out the boundry of behavior and operations within it, from expectations, goals and rules of which to operate within.  From one's word/oath; from a handshake and or written--contracts can be useful and be used as a bit of personal history documented.
 
Respectfully submitted,
Lady Hugs



Wulfchyld -> RE: From the smokinggun (5/4/2006 12:15:49 PM)

Seems to me she turned a mutual kink into a tool of greed. However, I do not know all the dynamics.



Proprietrix -> RE: From the smokinggun (5/4/2006 12:15:58 PM)

What is *a legal document* , and what is *legally admissable* are two totally different playgrounds.
A contract can be highlighted on every single page that it is not a legal document. So what? It can still be entered as evidence in a court of law. Journals, diaries, phonecalls, school papers, poetry, stories, etc... are not legal documents, but they are certainly admissable as evidence. Evidence doesn't have to meet a standard of whether or not it is a legal document, only if it is legally admissable.
Don't want your contract used in court? Don't have one.



kittensmailbox -> RE: From the smoking gun (5/4/2006 12:18:00 PM)

Lady Hugs, please call me kitten ~softly smiles~... and yes You are right, slave contracts are not legally binding...  i was just posting something that came in my email today... i found it of interest and wanted to share...



LadyHugs -> RE: From the smokinggun (5/4/2006 12:23:44 PM)

Dear Proprietrix, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
I agree with you.  It is called the preponderance of evidence, to which any item is added into evidence, from notes, toys and computer logs and hard-drive evidence.  It can help and or hurt, depending on the courts.
 
Respectfully submitted,
Lady Hugs



LadyHugs -> RE: From the smoking gun (5/4/2006 12:24:54 PM)

Dear kitten;

Thank you for sharing this very much.  It is appreciated.

Warm regards,
Lady Hugs



plantlady64 -> RE: From the smoking gun (5/4/2006 12:27:01 PM)

Wow, Such a mild contract caused her to think she could take him for $60,000.00. That's sad indeed.
Suzanne



kittensmailbox -> RE: From the smoking gun (5/4/2006 12:28:19 PM)

Most welcome Lady Hugs...  And i want to thank  LuckyAlbatross for posting that other site... i would have never seen it...



KittenWithaTwist -> RE: From the smoking gun (5/4/2006 1:19:53 PM)

Since you don't know the details of the private lives of these two individuals, it's difficult to judge whether she is in the right, he is in the right, or neither of them are in the right.



mnottertail -> RE: From the smoking gun (5/4/2006 1:29:52 PM)

Their from wisconsin, they are cheeseheads for fucks sake.  She can sue all she wants but I am thinkin' he ain't got 60Mill in walkabout bucks.  



kittensmailbox -> RE: From the smoking gun (5/5/2006 4:49:54 AM)

You know what mnottertail.. i am so sick of ppl being so nasty toward one another... i think that your post was uncalled for...



mnottertail -> RE: From the smoking gun (5/5/2006 5:27:43 AM)

So was the 60mill.  I appreciate your input



MrDiscipline44 -> RE: From the smoking gun (5/5/2006 6:03:49 AM)

LOL, typical mnottertail. If your sick of people being nasty to eachother you minus well go stick your head in the sand, it isn't going to change. Not anytime in the forseeable future anyway.



kittensmailbox -> RE: From the smoking gun (5/5/2006 11:47:15 AM)

i do not agree MrDiscipline, it is a choose we make... i can not force a person to like me... "Life is not what happens to you, but how you react to it...for what caused you to react will surely pass, but how you continue to react can only be passed by you." i for one, choose not to be rude and hateful toward others....



BitaTruble -> RE: From the smoking gun (5/5/2006 12:27:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittensmailbox

You know what mnottertail.. i am so sick of ppl being so nasty toward one another... i think that your post was uncalled for...


Yeah, he's a real asshole, ain't he?

quote:

no safe words???  Are you in sane or just stupid???  I do not care how long a person has been in the life style, SAFTY comes first...

 
Pot, kettle, black or perhaps you don't remember having to edit what you wrote so it wasn't quite so.. nasty.

Celeste




kittensmailbox -> RE: From the smoking gun (5/5/2006 12:36:18 PM)

You are right Bita, i did write that, i did also apologize and edited it so not to offend any others...  Safety is a huge thing for me, yes i lost my temper... i reacted poorly...  i will be more then happy to apologize again if it will please you.... i was wrong to call that person stupid you are right... i am not perfect, but i will learn... Everyday we learn.... i thank you... i enjoy your posts....



mnottertail -> RE: From the smoking gun (5/5/2006 12:42:00 PM)

I am not in any wise disabused of the notion that the lady is a pretty fucked up human being who, because some certain undefineable something just happened to set her piss flaps aquivvering at a frequency that makes 60 million dollars sooth her broken ego is anything that I will apologize for.  I am built (or wired as you guys call it) in such a way that my rotten soul will find nothing pleasant to say about this.

Ron



BitaTruble -> RE: From the smoking gun (5/5/2006 12:48:39 PM)

You don't have to apologize to me. You didn't do anything that effects me. I'd just be a bit more careful of my own words before using someone else's against them. Now, me. I can be nasty and have been on a number of occasions. ::shrugs:: I'm a human and sometimes I say things I regret, too, but realizing that, I don't call people out on the very things I do myself. I just call them out on the things I don't do. ::chuckles:: I think it was sweet of you to offer an apology though. I'm still working on my own flaws, too, so when I reach that state of perfection, I'll let everyone know so they can worship the ground I walk on. ;)

Celeste



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