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RE: Confusion...... - 2/22/2011 4:46:36 AM   
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As tough as all the advice you've been given isn't easy to hear, it speaks the truth.  He's no longer putting you first and just looking after his own needs.  He may still love you, and I know you love him, but his love for you has changed.  Not easy to wrap your head around that.  Please, for your own sake, get out before your self-worth has bottomed out. 

Better to be on your own than to stay in a relationship that seems to be heading for a crash.  I've been in relationships I knew were heading for a spectacular crash but still stayed until it was too late.  Your worth is what counts, and don't let him bring you down.  You deserve better than that.  2 years won't be easy to let you leave, you'll want to fight it.  But you deserve better than what he's offering at the moment.  You deserve a man who will make you his number one priority. 

Best of luck, there is someone out there for you.  But please, extricate yourself from this now-toxic relationship.  It'll hurt, there's no doubt of that, but in the long run you'll feel better about yourself.  And you should come first for your own sake. 


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RE: Confusion...... - 2/22/2011 4:48:13 AM   
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Sadly its a case of...

You will do until something better comes along

You are the option... time to cancel that option
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RE: Confusion...... - 2/22/2011 7:02:32 AM   
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No truer saying than "making your partner a priority when you are an option".

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RE: Confusion...... - 2/22/2011 7:25:47 PM   
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The more that I think of this situation and read through these threads the more pissed off I become. I am not a stupid girl by any means at all. Somehow, someway I was fooled with this guy though. Well, it is quite simple when  I look at it. He is very charming, very witty, makes you feel like you are the queen of the world when you first meet. He is really good at the beginning of a relationship and makes you feel like you are just the best thing ever. He also presents himself about as different as can be. We never even engaged into BDSM together for three or four months. Then, I never knew he was into cross-dressing until I found out by accident by looking for my sex toys in a suitcase we had taken on vacation. He thought I knew already and played it off like no big deal.

He never told me the first few months he was still seeing other people and up until almost a year together he was answering ads on CL and talking very flirtatiously to people on this site. I don't honestly think those two practices have ever stopped. I don't know they ever will. He views them as a social experiment and they are "like his porn". He says he answers ads to get pictures. He also claims to meet people to see if they are any good for the both of us. There has yet to be anyone good enough for me though. But as I think of it, what is going to do, let them suck his dick and that is going to make him think they might be good at eating my pussy or something? He gets to flirt, he gets to say anything  he wants to anyone he wants, he gets to meet anyone he wants whenever he wants even when it has upset me, he gets to check them out, he gets to do whatever he wants with them and allegedly tell me about what happens. What happens if he is just addicted to meeting people and then just tells me nothing happened so he gets to continue down the road of that "rush" he is getting? Or what happens if he finds someone he thinks is going to be a good play partner for the both of us and there is zero chemistry between me and that person? I can almost guarantee he would keep seeing them on his own.

Someone mentioned about that it seems I am not into being with other people as he is into it. I don't see myself as not being into it. I am not into him playing a double standard, living a double life and keeping things from me. I would be totally into playing with others if I were invited to be involved and I were made to feel like I was really a part of the process of choosing a partner or that he valued my opinion about who he was going to meet.I also find it very tacky to just automatically start talking to someone online and calling them teacher and performing assignments for them and etc. without ever meeting them before or really knowing them at all. This is on top of talking to other people at the same time on here and on CL via e-mail. He treats them all the same, as if he is all about them. It is like he is trying to get assurance that he is wanted by every single person in the world.

The one thing I know in my heart is that it will probably not stop. He did this with his ex-fiance too. I have met her in person from a work related incident. She has disclosed information about her personal life in off-handed girl talk. The bits and pieces I have put together from her add up to him wanting to do similar things with her. She got out of that mess and ended up meeting someone else within a few months and married him. I think her and I would actually be friends without him in the picture but she only knows me from my work. She doesn't even know that I am his live-in girlfriend. Then again, I have never used or abused the information she has given to me against her. So, I guess it is time to walk away before I am really insane and really heart-broken and have given up five or ten years more of my life.

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RE: Confusion...... - 2/22/2011 7:28:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Sadly its a case of...

You will do until something better comes along

You are the option... time to cancel that option
.


Just that. Really.


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RE: Confusion...... - 2/22/2011 7:30:55 PM   
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To me TV isn't the issue but that he wants to be poly and you don't.


I wouldn't call this poly.  It's not exactly cheating because he doesn't hide it.  There are two problems:

1. He's spending all his time doing this.  He's an addict.
2. He doesn't care about your needs.






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RE: Confusion...... - 2/22/2011 8:10:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SomethingElse9

So, I guess it is time to walk away before I am really insane and really heart-broken and have given up five or ten years more of my life.



Yes, please take this to heart. It is harder and harder the longer you stay; believe me, I only WISH I stayed with my ex for only 2 years. I wasted a lot longer time than you.

I just ended it finally, finally for good a few months ago and while it is painful, I respect myself SO much more now than I did during the time I was lying to myself that it was ok to stay in a bad relationship. You could lie and say, oh he still loves me, it is hot when I see him, and every other bullshit thing we say to ourselves, but it is all a lie.

I deserve more and so do you.

Good luck and stay strong.

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RE: Confusion...... - 2/22/2011 8:26:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SomethingElse9
I didn't know anything about the cross-dressing for a long time. He did a few times prior to getting heavily into it since the new year. Now, he is taking women vitamins, spending more time grooming than even I do, using make-up and hair products, dressing up and etc. Ultimately, I am confused because I do love him and I do want to accept him completely. The confusion comes in the form of wondering if I can handle it all and wondering if I can ever feel good enough for him. I have been doubting myself constantly. I have been trying to lose weight, trying to dress up more, trying to be more exciting and enticing, and etc. He tells me that he is attracted me and loves being with me. I cannot help but feel that he would rather be with someone else all of the time and feel like he might be fantasizing about others when he is having sex with me. I also wonder about his loyalties when he sends out hundreds of e-mails to people and seemingly cares for them and treats them like they are seriously important when he doesn't know them at all.

I'm not surprised that you're confused. After reading this thread, I just have to say......

1. Is he using protection when he has sex w/ these people?
2. If he's not, do you want to take part in whatever diseases he may end up with as a result?
3. I don't think he's "poly," I think he's a sex addict.
4. I don't think he's cheating, as he's not hiding it, but he is fucking around recklessly.
5. You are wondering if you can handle it all and whether or not you are good enough for him? HE is the one who appears to be going off the deep end and out of control. Is HE good enough for YOU? No matter how hard you try to lose weight/look sexier/dress up, he will probably not stop hooking up w/ these other people. See #3 (sex addict)
6. Do you really want to live like this for the rest of your life?
7. If it were me, I'd get the hell out a.s.a.p.

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RE: Confusion...... - 2/22/2011 9:04:01 PM   
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My advice is to get away from this guy fast. Get tested for STD's. Do not become sexually involved (no intercourse or oral sex) with anyone for six months. It can take up to six months for HIV to show up on a test. Hopefully, you will test negative. Worst case scenerio: if you find out you're HIV positive, there are medications that stop the disease from progressing and support groups where you can meet single men who are HIV positive. Remember that monogamy and faithful polygamy are the only ways to practice safe unprotected sex (including oral). Good luck.

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RE: Confusion...... - 2/22/2011 11:53:36 PM   
tiggerspoohbear


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SomethingElse9

The more that I think of this situation and read through these threads the more pissed off I become. I am not a stupid girl by any means at all. Somehow, someway I was fooled with this guy though. Well, it is quite simple when  I look at it. He is very charming, very witty, makes you feel like you are the queen of the world when you first meet. He is really good at the beginning of a relationship and makes you feel like you are just the best thing ever. He also presents himself about as different as can be. We never even engaged into BDSM together for three or four months. Then, I never knew he was into cross-dressing until I found out by accident by looking for my sex toys in a suitcase we had taken on vacation. He thought I knew already and played it off like no big deal.

He never told me the first few months he was still seeing other people and up until almost a year together he was answering ads on CL and talking very flirtatiously to people on this site. I don't honestly think those two practices have ever stopped. I don't know they ever will. He views them as a social experiment and they are "like his porn". He says he answers ads to get pictures. He also claims to meet people to see if they are any good for the both of us. There has yet to be anyone good enough for me though. But as I think of it, what is going to do, let them suck his dick and that is going to make him think they might be good at eating my pussy or something? He gets to flirt, he gets to say anything  he wants to anyone he wants, he gets to meet anyone he wants whenever he wants even when it has upset me, he gets to check them out, he gets to do whatever he wants with them and allegedly tell me about what happens. What happens if he is just addicted to meeting people and then just tells me nothing happened so he gets to continue down the road of that "rush" he is getting? Or what happens if he finds someone he thinks is going to be a good play partner for the both of us and there is zero chemistry between me and that person? I can almost guarantee he would keep seeing them on his own.

Someone mentioned about that it seems I am not into being with other people as he is into it. I don't see myself as not being into it. I am not into him playing a double standard, living a double life and keeping things from me. I would be totally into playing with others if I were invited to be involved and I were made to feel like I was really a part of the process of choosing a partner or that he valued my opinion about who he was going to meet.I also find it very tacky to just automatically start talking to someone online and calling them teacher and performing assignments for them and etc. without ever meeting them before or really knowing them at all. This is on top of talking to other people at the same time on here and on CL via e-mail. He treats them all the same, as if he is all about them. It is like he is trying to get assurance that he is wanted by every single person in the world.

The one thing I know in my heart is that it will probably not stop. He did this with his ex-fiance too. I have met her in person from a work related incident. She has disclosed information about her personal life in off-handed girl talk. The bits and pieces I have put together from her add up to him wanting to do similar things with her. She got out of that mess and ended up meeting someone else within a few months and married him. I think her and I would actually be friends without him in the picture but she only knows me from my work. She doesn't even know that I am his live-in girlfriend. Then again, I have never used or abused the information she has given to me against her. So, I guess it is time to walk away before I am really insane and really heart-broken and have given up five or ten years more of my life.



I read this post and it makes me cry.  It's so much like the first D/s I was involved in.  He got to play whenever he wanted, sometimes he lied, other times he had me drive him 100's of miles to meet up with these women.  I did it all.

Apart from the cross-dressing, it reads exactly like the situation I got myself into.  I managed to ruin my relationship with my immediate family.  My parents met him once and by the next day they'd changed the locks on the door and wouldn't give me a replacement.  They'd also changed the codes on the security system they had.  They lied to me and gave some lame excuse, but I knew why.  They saw through him and were afraid they'd be robbed.  That he'd steal my house key and go through their house, what had been my home for a large part of my life.

When he "decided" that bringing in a third would make him the happiest man in the world, I was at such a low point I agreed to it.  She became the shiny new toy, I was cast aside.  We lived in my apartment, a fairly small one bedroom.  I wasn't allowed to sleep in my own bed, that was for them.  I was relegated to the couch.  I ended up in the hospital with an accidental overdose.  He cried over me while I was out of it.  By the time they showed up to pick me up the next morning he refused to talk to me.  This went on for two week of pure hell.  He knew this was the worst thing he could do to me.  Shut me out on purpose.  They then walked out on me to be together but neither was "man" and "woman" to tell me in person. 

I received a nasty and disgusting yahoo msg from both of them that night to tell me I was worthless, that I was too "slavish" and didn't have the experience they required from a third.  I was then threatened with physical harm.  The police paid them a visit, since I knew the P.D. scared the hell out of both of them.  I didn't go out for two months.  I was terrified they'd be waiting for me in the stairwell of my apartment building.  I lived in the dark for those 2 months, too scared to turn on any lights, the tv or even the radio.

He knew I suffered from depression, and they both took full advantage of that to make me think I was the reason for the entire mess.  To say I was devastated is quite the understatement.  I had no one to turn to, I'd lost the friends I'd had and my family.  It took over a year for my parents to forgive.  To this day, my sister still hasn't, and this was almost 7 yrs ago to the date.

It's hurt my relationships in that I no longer trust the men who approach me.  I don't want to have to go through this ever again.

For your own mental health, please get out while the going is good.  It'll hurt, there's no denying that, but you have to put yourself as number one.  You absolutely can't let him win this. 

If you need someone to chat with, please know that my cmail is open to you.  My heart goes out to you and my thoughts and prayers are with you.  Only you can make the decision to stay or go, but know there will be nothing but heartache.  Also, don't blame yourself for any of this.  It's NOT your fault, but his.  Yes, it takes two, but sometimes one can ruin it for the other and not care one whit.

He still emails me at least twice a year, and it sets off anxiety and panic attacks that last for at least a week.  I finally sent him a final email this summer telling him what he'd done to me and what I thought of his underhanded ways.  In no way was I polite, I laid it all on the line and blasted him.  Told him never to contact me again.  I'm hoping this time he'll honor my wishes.  So far so good. 


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RE: Confusion...... - 2/23/2011 5:31:15 AM   
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You got to know when to hold em.........

Know when to fold em.....

Know when to walk away....

Know when to run....


RUN

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