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twicehappy -> M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 4:50:03 AM)

Doing a little research here so would like to hear from anybody in a 24/7(not necessarily live in) D/s or M/s relationship.

Give me your own personal definition of what the D/s or M/s relationship is.

Is yours a TPE style relationship? What does that mean to you with regards to obedience?

Do you allow your sub/slave or if sub/slave are you allowed limits other than the standard moral ones?

With certain obvious restrictions; do you function in your day to day life like a “normal” couple? What I mean by this is that living the “kink” 24/7 is a difficult proposition, so do you do whips and chains etc 24/7 or is your daily routine more normal while holding onto the D/s or M/s dynamic?

Are there any out there who live the D/s or M/s life without the bdsm play? Or with only occasional bdsm play? If so how do you feel you are regarded/treated by the community here on CM and in real time?

Do you think your online search would be easier or more difficult if you posted D/s or M/s is what you are looking for?

Do you have protocols for other Doms/Dommes contacting the owned one? If so what are they?

Thank you all in advance, as many of you know from previous postings here the house PhoenixRisen is of a philosophical bent and your answers set off many a great debate.


 




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 5:49:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twicehappy
Give me your own personal definition of what the D/s or M/s relationship is.

One in which a person operates on an on-going basis under the authority of the other who takes ownership of that authority within relationship to eachother.
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Is yours a TPE style relationship? What does that mean to you with regards to obedience?

I don't use "TPE" but it was a relationship in which all ultimate authority was in the owners hands.

It meant that I obeyed...except when it was wiser not to.  He trained me over time when to know the difference.
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Do you allow your sub/slave or if sub/slave are you allowed limits other than the standard moral ones?

We based our limits on our own feelings and ideals- so some were standard and some weren't.
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With certain obvious restrictions; do you function in your day to day life like a “normal” couple?

Except for often going out as a poly family, yes.  90% of the time, unless you were looking for it, you wouldn't have noticed anything really different about us.

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 What I mean by this is that living the “kink” 24/7 is a difficult proposition, so do you do whips and chains etc 24/7 or is your daily routine more normal while holding onto the D/s or M/s dynamic?

Daily life was daily life.  We played and did kinky sex stuff too, but not as a daily thing.
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Are there any out there who live the D/s or M/s life without the bdsm play? Or with only occasional bdsm play?

Pretty much all of my previous M/s relationships were very sporadic with play, and my live-in situation was sans play for about 6 months due to the master being ill.
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If so how do you feel you are regarded/treated by the community here on CM and in real time?

Well I was treated normally I suppose.  I think most people in the scene understand that sometimes you play and sometimes you don't. 
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Do you think your online search would be easier or more difficult if you posted D/s or M/s is what you are looking for?

As a female I don't think it matters.  A male MIGHT be more likely to find someone under Ds.
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Do you have protocols for other Doms/Dommes contacting the owned one? If so what are they?

The same ones that we're taught as we grow up, basic manners and respect for space.




Littlepita -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 6:07:44 AM)

Give me your own personal definition of what the D/s or M/s relationship is.

For me it means that he is my dominate and I am the submissive. He takes on the responsibility to make sure I grow and live the life that he has determined works best for me. I obey his wants and needs to the best of my ability.

Is yours a TPE style relationship? What does that mean to you with regards to obedience?

Yes, it is a TPE. I do obey him in all things. We have a contract with our roles clearly defined, which we regularly go over to make sure they are still working for us.

Do you allow your sub/slave or if sub/slave are you allowed limits other than the standard moral ones?

My limits include having complete control over my child, my faith and what we have set forth in our contract.

With certain obvious restrictions; do you function in your day to day life like a “normal” couple? What I mean by this is that living the “kink” 24/7 is a difficult proposition, so do you do whips and chains etc 24/7 or is your daily routine more normal while holding onto the D/s or M/s dynamic?

For the most part I would say we live just like a totally normal couple. We have a great relationship and I’m allowed to fully express myself. What is different with this relationship compared to my others is that he is always my Dom. We don’t turn that off and on. We just live life.

Are there any out there who live the D/s or M/s life without the bdsm play? Or with only occasional bdsm play? If so how do you feel you are regarded/treated by the community here on CM and in real time?

No, I adore the bdsm play very much. It is what feeds my soul.

Do you think your online search would be easier or more difficult if you posted D/s or M/s is what you are looking for?

I was fortunate that we found each other online in a totally vanilla way and through talking learned of our D/s desires. We are very grateful we didn’t have to do the searching that so many have to since we have dear friends who we see what a struggle that is.

Do you have protocols for other Doms/Dommes contacting the owned one? If so what are they?

The only protocol I have is that I tell him if anyone contacts me. He doesn’t mind who I talk to as long as I am treated with respect and don’t cross any lines that would harm our relationship. Trust is key to any relationship and we take that very seriously.




spankmepink11 -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 6:16:11 AM)

Very well said LittlePita




twicehappy -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 6:36:06 AM)

Beautifully put LittlePita.




fyreredsub -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 6:57:13 AM)


Give me your own personal definition of what the D/s or M/s relationship is. this one submits her life and service to the happiness and wants of another because it fulfills this one to do so.

Is yours a TPE style relationship? What does that mean to you with regards to obedience? yes. it means absolute obedience to Master/Mistress

Do you allow your sub/slave or if sub/slave are you allowed limits other than the standard moral ones? Master/Mistress have total control.the longer this girl serves under Them, the more comonalities we are all found to share.

With certain obvious restrictions; do you function in your day to day life like a “normal” couple? What I mean by this is that living the “kink” 24/7 is a difficult proposition, so do you do whips and chains etc 24/7 or is your daily routine more normal while holding onto the D/s or M/s dynamic? it is a poly home and we are still working out the arrengements to everyday life incorporating this girl into the routine and space but much does hinder on this slaves upcoming visit and begging collar.the house does function Gorean protocol 24/7 with varying levels of protocol for given situations.

Are there any out there who live the D/s or M/s life without the bdsm play? Or with only occasional bdsm play? If so how do you feel you are regarded/treated by the community here on CM and in real time? this one has no issues with her treatment here at CM, she has found it to be enjoyable...play time is within the scope of M/M/s. which means They bring this one to their limits and of course it is Gorean dynamics and protocols.

Do you think your online search would be easier or more difficult if you posted D/s or M/s is what you are looking for? this one had not had much success as a slave,lol,however, she has accomplished and learned more in her current situation than any other time in this lifestyle.

Do you have protocols for other Doms/Dommes contacting the owned one? If so what are they?  most definately, if anyone wishes to speak with this girl they must petition Master/Mistress, unless of course slave then it is allowed.


you are most welcome. this slave girl thrives in this strict Gorean home [:)]




RiotGirl -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 7:10:42 AM)

Is yours a TPE style relationship? What does that mean to you with regards to obedience?

Do you allow your sub/slave or if sub/slave are you allowed limits other than the standard moral ones?
no

With certain obvious restrictions; do you function in your day to day life like a “normal” couple? What I mean by this is that living the “kink” 24/7 is a difficult proposition, so do you do whips and chains etc 24/7 or is your daily routine more normal while holding onto the D/s or M/s dynamic?

normal i suppose. M/s is all over our relationship and in all our actions, but it normal.  he say do, i do, permission needed for most things.  um bedtime is when he says. he has several things he wants done during the day.  dont do whips or chains 24/7 no.

Are there any out there who live the D/s or M/s life without the bdsm play? Or with only occasional bdsm play? If so how do you feel you are regarded/treated by the community here on CM and in real time?

yeah us.  bdsm play is rare actually.. occasional i suppose.  course if you count biting, and being held down cos you wiggle so much, then its like every other day.  i dont feel i'm treated by anyone cos of this.  didnt think it really mattered or was anyones business for it to matter to, ya know?  never really mention it - suppose is what i mean.

Do you think your online search would be easier or more difficult if you posted D/s or M/s is what you are looking for?


i'm not searching so i dunno.

Do you have protocols for other Doms/Dommes contacting the owned one? If so what are they?

yeah sorta.  But as time went on, it became a non matter.  Used to be no talking to other Doms, if they wanted to talk to me, to go through him.  The first i think was way back in the begining, cos i had alot of Doms trying to get in my head and build doubt, ect.  Mostly people that wanted me i suppose.  Then the second, which was mainly for collarme was to stop me from getting so hyped up about the retards who emailed me.  But i've gotten better with dealing with it, so now its not an issue, neither of them

hope it helps




mixielicous -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 7:31:46 AM)

i am 24/7 but not live in:

Give me your own personal definition of what the D/s or M/s relationship is:
-He says, i do. my goal is His pleasure, and also my well being, because He likes a happy/complete me.

Is yours a TPE style relationship? What does that mean to you with regards to obedience?
-i dont think we do TPE [ie- i eat w/e i want.. pretty much]

Do you allow your sub/slave or if sub/slave are you allowed limits other than the standard moral ones?
-i willingly gave up my limits. this is because i trust Him. and, if He wants it bad enough, it is my desire anyways to provide.

With certain obvious restrictions; do you function in your day to day life like a “normal” couple? What I mean by this is that living the “kink” 24/7 is a difficult proposition, so do you do whips and chains etc 24/7 or is your daily routine more normal while holding onto the D/s or M/s dynamic?
- we have a pretty "norm" everyday life - /shrug. a leash sometimes but thats about it. i do not lead a 'slaves' life. there is still complete obedience though, no matter what/where

Are there any out there who live the D/s or M/s life without the bdsm play? Or with only occasional bdsm play? If so how do you feel you are regarded/treated by the community here on CM and in real time?
-we only play about one major scene a week. we simply dont have time for any more [its so involved!] 'regular' sex will always include though: hair pulling, biting and spanking ;)

Do you think your online search would be easier or more difficult if you posted D/s or M/s is what you are looking for?
- n/a

Do you have protocols for other Doms/Dommes contacting the owned one? If so what are they?
- i just hate when people blatently disregard my Owned status.




ownedgirlie -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 7:32:37 AM)


Give me your own personal definition of what the D/s or M/s relationship is.

He is Master, I am slave.  He rules me.  He guides and directs me as he sees fit to be a better me.  He uses me at his whim, however he wants, whenever he wants, wherever he wants.  I obey his word.  I am an extension of him.  I love him as I have never known love, and live to please him.

Is yours a TPE style relationship? What does that mean to you with regards to obedience?

I have heard so many different "definitions" of TPE that I no longer pay attention to that term.  He owns me.  As such, he does what he wants with me.  It fulfills me to be in such a dynamic.  I feel his power.  It is in me and it rules and guides me.  He guides my thought and controls my body.  Yes, I said control.  When one states a command to another's body, and the body responds on its own, that is control.  If I were to say TPE I would say I have exchanged my complete submission and obedience for his power over me. 

Do you allow your sub/slave or if sub/slave are you allowed limits other than the standard moral ones?

There are no stated limits other than what he says he will not do with me.  He owns me, and does what he wants with me. 

With certain obvious restrictions; do you function in your day to day life like a “normal” couple? What I mean by this is that living the “kink” 24/7 is a difficult proposition, so do you do whips and chains etc 24/7 or is your daily routine more normal while holding onto the D/s or M/s dynamic?

I do not consider this a kink.  I consider myself a slave, and therefore I am always a slave when with him.  We will go to dinner and such, but I am always slave.  I walk slightly behind him on his left.  I obey when we go out.  I call him Master in public and refer to him as Master to my friends (or for those friends who freak out about that, "Mr. Wonderful."). When I visit him, if he is not using me, I will be at his feet.  I am treated better in this relationship than I have ever been as anyone's girlfriend or wife. 

Are there any out there who live the D/s or M/s life without the bdsm play? Or with only occasional bdsm play? If so how do you feel you are regarded/treated by the community here on CM and in real time?

I don't particularly care for the word, "play."  Master uses me for his pleasure, at his whim.  Sometimes he considers it playing with me, as he might play with a toy.  But at all times, I am serviing him, entertaining him, amusing him, pleasuring him.  I don't know how I am regarded  here - I suspect some respect how I live and some do not.  The only ones in "real time" who know of my slavery are close and trusted friends, and they have high regard for me.  They have all seen my transformation since becoming his, and they know I am happy. 

Do you think your online search would be easier or more difficult if you posted D/s or M/s is what you are looking for?

I hope to never search again.  If I found myself in that position, I would post myself as an unowned slave, as I need to be completely owned by a Master.

Do you have protocols for other Doms/Dommes contacting the owned one? If so what are they?

Master allows me to converse with anyone, so long as it is clear that I am owned, and so long as said Dom/me does not attempt to encroach on what is his.  Should that happen, conversations end immediately.  Whenever friendships develop, I tell him of them.





slaveofdarkhold -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 7:35:55 AM)

I have to agree with LittlePita in pretty much everything she said.
The only difference would perhaps be limits. I'm not sure what you count as the standard moral limits. For me my limit is any act involving anyone who can't or doesn't consent. This includes kids, animals, drunk people etc. Anything else I would at least try for him, though I have some strong fears and dislikes which he generally stays away from. It isn't that I wasn't allowed to have other limits, I was offered the chance to set some at the beginning of the relationship I chose not to.
If I was religious, or had a child from a previous relationship, I would definately have the same limits as LittlePita, they seem very sensible. If the child was my Master's, I'd want any decisions to be 50/50 between us.




mixielicous -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 7:40:42 AM)

oh, i guess i lied, there is one limit

...no sharing me. [:'(]




thetammyjo -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 7:46:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: twicehappy

Doing a little research here so would like to hear from anybody in a 24/7(not necessarily live in) D/s or M/s relationship.

Give me your own personal definition of what the D/s or M/s relationship is.

Is yours a TPE style relationship? What does that mean to you with regards to obedience?

Do you allow your sub/slave or if sub/slave are you allowed limits other than the standard moral ones?

With certain obvious restrictions; do you function in your day to day life like a “normal” couple? What I mean by this is that living the “kink” 24/7 is a difficult proposition, so do you do whips and chains etc 24/7 or is your daily routine more normal while holding onto the D/s or M/s dynamic?

Are there any out there who live the D/s or M/s life without the bdsm play? Or with only occasional bdsm play? If so how do you feel you are regarded/treated by the community here on CM and in real time?

Do you think your online search would be easier or more difficult if you posted D/s or M/s is what you are looking for?

Do you have protocols for other Doms/Dommes contacting the owned one? If so what are they?



I am a relatively laid back owner. As long as my commands (when I give them) are obeyed and I'm called "Mistress" then I'm content.

I am also a relatively lazy owner (to paraphrase Jack Rinella). I'm not going to micromanage someone or give him commands all the time. I work hard to train a slave and once trained I expect him to see to his duties without being reminded or ordered to do so.

Each person in my household has outside work they get paid for so during those hours the Ds is really in her heads and nowhere else -- how could it be otherwise unless I want to risk one or more jobs?

We have are daily rituals we do to center us and to focus us, we have time scheduled that is private. We make time to do SM or bondage or more submission-focused stuff which is relaxing. But most of the time life is fairly mundane with the Ds dynamics underling everything.

I find that we get judged most harshly but folks who think BDSM is all sex or all whips&chains -- most people in 24/7 know from experience that each relationship must be unique to those involved in order to work well and last for years.

Its funny because those who criticize will say he isn't in chains all the time and then frown even more deeply when they learn Fox has to ask my permission to go out with friends. It is very strange that they'd see the lack of obvious "kink" as equally being fake but view my influence and control over choices about friends and activities as somehow pushing things too far, even of being abusive.

This primarily relates to people I've known in meatlife not online.

In terms of folks contacting Fox, I have no problem with them talking to him and I'm poly and do not expect him to be monogamous; he'll tell me everything and he'll clear anything they want to do with him with me first. Oh, and I'll meet them first, face-to-face, sort of like the parents meeting the new SO before the first date. I don't recall ever saying "no" when I've met such folks -- Fox is a smart man and he can see through BS so he only picks folks who pass my expectations.




MasterR001 -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 7:49:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mixielicous

oh, i guess i lied, there is one limit

...no sharing me. [:'(]


I've always said there is no such thing as a no limits sub................. you have proved my point.




Proprietrix -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 7:54:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twicehappy
Give me your own personal definition of what the D/s or M/s relationship is.


I make the rules. My slaves obey them. It's consensual from the get go, full of communication. They serve. I'm served. I don't much go for the whole concept of the Dominant being there to fulfill the slave's wants and desires, so compatibility is important from step one.

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Is yours a TPE style relationship? What does that mean to you with regards to obedience?

Actually, my relationships build up slowly to TPE, depending on which definition one uses. I have different levels of collaring. At any level, I expect complete and total obedience.

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Do you allow your sub/slave or if sub/slave are you allowed limits other than the standard moral ones?

Sure. I don't expect slaves to be non-human, and I understand they have certain limits for certain reasons. I do want to fully understand why they have their limits. Ocassionally I'll push limits, but for the most part, I understand their limits (and the reasons for them) long before we get to a level of Mistress/slave anyway. Compatibility is important for me. I couldn't take a slave who had limits against things that were important to me, so the relationship would never get started in the first place.

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With certain obvious restrictions; do you function in your day to day life like a "normal" couple? What I mean by this is that living the "kink" 24/7 is a difficult proposition, so do you do whips and chains etc 24/7 or is your daily routine more normal while holding onto the D/s or M/s dynamic?

"Couple" = No. Family = Yes. I don't do the coupling thing. I find it restrictive to who I am. The kink stuff I think is a matter of perception. Overall, it's just normative living. However, if you consider tethering an ankle each night "kink", then I guess the kink is daily. As for the whole "scening" thing (tie them to the St. Andrew's cross, beat them, subspace, aftercare, yadda,,,,) No. Not daily. No often. In fact, very rarely.

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Are there any out there who live the D/s or M/s life without the bdsm play? Or with only occasional bdsm play? If so how do you feel you are regarded/treated by the community here on CM and in real time?

I live it with only occasional play. I have nothing against play, but real life tends to take precedence, day after day, after day. And with teenagers in the home, time, space, and privacy are limited. Not to mention, most nights I crawl in bed pretty damn tired and playing is the last thing I want to get up and do.
In real time, my co-lifestylists are cool. Most of them only get to play at parties or retreats anyway because their lives are equally as busy.
Here on CM, it really depends on the individuals. There is a small group who for some reason seem to take personal issue with my lifestyle. I'm not sure why they even need concern themselves. But I do sometimes get comments about how I take things too seriously, or I'm put into overgeneralized statements about how everyone is here for fun or for kink or for sex, or a snide one-liner about how my life must be boring. I don't take any of it personally. I figure that's their issue, not mine.
But overall, I much prefer my real time interactions over any message board. I just happen to live in a small town where "the lifestyle community" equals all of about 6 people.

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Do you think your online search would be easier or more difficult if you posted D/s or M/s is what you are looking for?

I think I have that listed. Maybe not? (Note to self to check.) I don't rely on the online search. It's maybe .001% chance of hooking up with someone. I'm more here to absorb information and exchange opinions, and I probably only respond to about half the mail I get.

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Do you have protocols for other Doms/Dommes contacting the owned one? If so what are they?

Yes. It depends on their level of collaring. At the highest level, they are not permitted to respond to contact from other Dominants other than to say, one time, "Please consult with my Mistress." But usually at the highest level of collaring, they are way too busy with real life tasks and have very little, if any, time to be cruising around on the internet anyway.
At real time events, they would defer to me in the same way. But it's usually not an issue because the lifestyle folk I prefer to hang with all share the same protocol.




mixielicous -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 7:55:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterR001

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ORIGINAL: mixielicous

oh, i guess i lied, there is one limit

...no sharing me. [:'(]


I've always said there is no such thing as a no limits sub................. you have proved my point.


yes i can see how you would think that, but monogomy is something that is from outside our M/s, was in place before. i have told Him, i would if He really really wanted me too, but not without being in tears the whole time. Monogomy is something i believe to be moral, and unfortunatley 'sharing' or, 'not sharing' plays a big role in how others view your devotion.

i do not want anyone in my temple but its keeper, you dig?




LadyHugs -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 9:11:08 AM)

Dear twicehappy, Ladies and Gentlemen;

Give me your own personal definition of what the D/s or M/s relationship is.
Master/Mistress-slave relationship is a committed relationship that is binding and practices an energy flow in a somewhat more "spiritual" and "telepathic" flow but, I am from an antiquated system of doing things, long before D/s was a title but-- a state of behavior.  M/s to my exposure is a loving relationship, but not the romantic love or sexually motivated.  More "service" and perhaps more of a "healer" mentality, as it is bent for the slave to ease the life of a Master, as to permit his mind to focus on more higher thinking and how to bring the slave up in a higher plane of freedom through slavery and enhance his personal life outside as well as inside the lifestyle.  As well as to give wisdom enough, so that should the slave phase into a "master in training" status they would have the knowledge, ability to listen and keen eyes to watch the silent language of the body and things learned as slave, to make a wise Master. Behavior was goverened and modified, attitude adjusted as to bring the best out.  Sharing lessons the Master learned when he/she was slave, passing it to their slave.  Honoring the past, present and future, through rituals, ceremony, protocol and etiquettes, knowing the roots and meanings behind them.

Is yours a TPE style relationship? What does that mean to you with regards to obedience?
I am of the belief that long before TPE entered the vocabulary, the system I am familiar with, in my capacity as slave and as Master, we did work with in the realm of empowerment and exchanges. Mostly the slave was the student and the Master the teacher, in explaining what they may experience and enjoy the purge of what catharis processes in a M/s relationship permits.  In opening to catharis, it made the exposure to the primal beast, to embrace it and not being ashamed of it possible.  So, the need to hold/contain the primal human, the "animal spirit/manifestation" was welcomed not belittled or found ugly.  Catharis flogging was to purge all the emotions as to refresh the soul, spirit and emotional, mental realms--releasing as to permit the physical realm to be "one."  Catharsis flogging, etc., is not to be confused with maintaining "flogging" as feeding the BDSM need/want, or the steps into pleasure, delight and or sex--as well as different between punishment flogging.  Each did different things and had meaning to each slave explained before such even started.  I would have to say being obedient was to keep their unprotected and vunerable state open to the Master always.

Do you allow your sub/slave or if sub/slave are you allowed limits other than the standard moral ones?
Yes, slaves even in my early days were allowed limits.  The major one, was the right to protect themselves as Master's property, even from the Master himself.  Limits are due to many factors, to which makes an individual.  Limits are respected but, also explored and pushed, sometimes out of a bad experience, a different Master's techniques turned a hard limit of no, into loving what they feared, e.g. caning now days causes fear --because of how people use the cane but, if they handle the cane and shown the technique, they loose the fear and embrace it.  I do this currently as a faculty member at a training academy.  The release of relief is what Masters seek to give slaves.  To enjoy all things--even in service.

With certain obvious restrictions; do you function in your day to day life like a “normal” couple? What I mean by this is that living the “kink” 24/7 is a difficult proposition, so do you do whips and chains etc 24/7 or is your daily routine more normal while holding onto the D/s or M/s dynamic?

Life's schedules influence the day to day operations of my household.  Some of my slaves had odd shifts and days off, others rather normal 9-5.  There were days assigned to each slave, where I was only with them; the other slaves knew to do their tasks and were on their best behaviors.  Each slave had equal time with me, had days where all of them were in service, I had a day off from all of the slaves.  Each had their fill of BDSM--they knew how to approach and hint they needed a good dungeon time.  Maintainence and or my time for my fun, pleasure and needs. But, I wasn't so rigid that there were no margins for changes.  Govern by the moment rather than schedule.
 
Are there any out there who live the D/s or M/s life without the bdsm play? Or with only occasional bdsm play? If so how do you feel you are regarded/treated by the community here on CM and in real time?
My personal feeling on this matter is, that I am not defined by those outside of my sacred relationship with my slaves.  I had an occassion where I took on a slave, when they were overcome by illness, the Master had passed and was gifted with this slave.  To weak to really be of service, to weak to be in the dungeon, I was at his bed and attended to that slave. The eyes told me more of how hurt he was unable to give back.  So, I gave him sewing and repair work, secretarial jobs he could do in bed.  To me, it is quality of service--not how much quantity the service is.  Do as much as one can well or not do it at all.  To weak to sew, it was a sign for me to be near around the clock.  That slaved died in my keeping/my arms...knowing he was a good slave and honored my collar.  He did smile, he was happy--his duty done--he died in peace and is buried at my expense with honor and dignity all of us should have.  My able slaves made it possible to attend this lad's bed--gave up their time to help their dying brother.  It matters little what others think--my focus is on my leather family/my slaves.  Only thing that matters, is that people understand that there are loving Masters, that deeply love their slaves and would do anything at all to see them loved, appreciated and treated with grace and dignity--it isn't about forcing or manhandling.  Service is from the heart and soul--not the bondage external-but the bondage invisible around the heart.  Slaves wear collars --Masters hold the leash.
 
I do not define myself by physical BDSM activities --Although extremely important, necessary -- I don't let BDSM define me--I define BDSM.

Do you think your online search would be easier or more difficult if you posted D/s or M/s is what you are looking for?
I don't think anything is really easy--at least not for me.  Again, I'm so old fashioned that I doubt if I will find what I'm looking for.   Since there is a blurry line due to so many opinions of what M/s and or D/s "is" -- other than a few standards that are consistant; it is mere chance to find anybody.  I'm Old School and not many Old School slaves are around -- Just people that are old (like me!) LOL

Do you have protocols for other Doms/Dommes contacting the owned one? If so what are they?
I do have protocols for other dominants contacting the owned one. 
 
If unsolicited approaches to the slave, they are to courtesy copy the correspondence to me, their reply is to be courtesy copied to me; to which they are to have a polite response, that with all due respect, please contact my owner (me) for permission to correspond with me (slave) further.  It would be really appreciated by us both.  Most times these unsolicited approaches are trolls, looking for slaves to steal away from the owners.
 
Most times, if it is in a forum like this--posting openly, I don't mind--they aren't dummies and they know how to show respect.  If there is a issue, slave knows to alert me as to look into the issue and we go from there.  Most times its just misunderstanding not an insult.  My slaves aren't iscolated from talking to others, even other dominants.  But, these dominants need to also understand that they are my slave, not some toy to borrow from under my nose.
 
In public scenes, e.g. parties, gatherings, presentations and such.  It depends if the protocols are formal (high) or informal (low).  If casual, it is low protocol, they serve everybody as if it was me.  If high, they only serve me; and by their request by my leave, can see to a solo dominant who has no slave of their own.  They do not leave an invisible space of six feet from me in high protocol, as to be attending me at a mere moment.  Casual, they are allowed to mingle, I have been served and its time for them to enjoy the gathering also.  Most times I can find them with other slaves and having a great time.  If services are required, other slaves know to get my slave's attention and have him report back.
 
In high protocol, my slaves kneel at any Master/Mistress entering the premises, in presentment position.  Only my slave gives me the honor position, to which is different.  All slaves of mine kneel immediately, if they see one slave kneel in presentment--other than physical inabilities, then slaves go into standing presentment position as others kneel.  Only until they are released do the resume, with the exceptions of slaves in the middle of cooking or a task.  If an unfamiliar dominant to my protocols enter and they present and aren't released, I release them in silent hand signal.  Staying on the knees over 10 minutes is painful -- I won't have that in my house and is transferred over into other gatherings.
 
All dominants that approach my slaves are to be greeted cheerfully, head lowered in respect and present.  They are also not to rush about dominants but, be careful as to keep a three foot space around dominants as premises/circumstances permit.   
 
 
Respectfully submitted,
Lady Hugs




RapturesDaddy -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 9:26:32 AM)

No one can be on their knees 24/7. This is real life, and earth, not Gor or some novel.
That being said the relationship that I have with mine is an evolving 24/7 D/s relationship.
I guide her in all things as best I can. We know that RL is , what it is...
For example, she is moving in with me this month. I am the MOST disorganized person in the world, therefor she was the "boss" when it came to getting my filthy wreck of a home ready for her posh pampered butt. :) Even in this, I saw it as a submissive act. Why? because she was assisting me. She understood what needed to be done, and did it. The end result was a job well done and a pleased Dom :). Another example- the decorating will be her job when she moves in. (Bachelor pads are lacking in...... livability). She has complete control and free reign in this. but in the end, it is a task that she will complete to make me happy. As she goes about doing it, she will be thinking of me. I know she will make me proud.

As for formailtiy and protocol?
NO ONE touches her collar and I do mean NO ONE. Period. This is a huge pet peeve.
She can have friends in the lifestyle and I encourage it of course. In fact she is the one who makes our friends as I am sort of a recluse at times.
She is a very social person and I would never hold her back from that.

I see a 24/7 D/s relationship as something that will never stop growing....




meatcleaver -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 9:41:22 AM)

Being tied to a leash. It doesn't matter who's taking who for a walk, the handler or the dog, the two are tied together and neither is free.




shareinnc -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 9:42:06 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: twicehappy

Give me your own personal definition of what the D/s or M/s relationship is.
For me, relationships are relationships...they are the interaction between and among individuals.  M/s or D/s is simply a dynamic of an overall relationship.

Is yours a TPE style relationship? What does that mean to you with regards to obedience?
Yes.  As he is fond of saying..."Just do what you're told *expletitive*." Obedience is expected to be ruthless as is correction for a lack of obedience.

Do you allow your sub/slave or if sub/slave are you allowed limits other than the standard moral ones?
Limits are a funny thing for me.  Other than "don't mess with my family or get me fired" I've never placed limits on relationships.  This one is no different.  I have, in fact, experienced things that I would never have considered previously...not without fear...but with the trust and knowledge that he won't permanently damage property he values.

With certain obvious restrictions; do you function in your day to day life like a “normal” couple? What I mean by this is that living the “kink” 24/7 is a difficult proposition, so do you do whips and chains etc 24/7 or is your daily routine more normal while holding onto the D/s or M/s dynamic?

We rarely play outside of a play party environment.  However, I am always his.  And he finds ways to remind me when the "day to day" routine makes me lazy in my service.

Are there any out there who live the D/s or M/s life without the bdsm play? Or with only occasional bdsm play? If so how do you feel you are regarded/treated by the community here on CM and in real time?

I'm not a masochist.  He is a sexual sadist.  We don't play all that often for various reasons...not the least of which is time constraints (we run our own business and I work full time).  I can't say I've ever been treated differently by anyone because of the time we don't spend playing.

I have, however, noticed an odd thing...while I don't necessarily like what we do when we play (remember, I'm not a masochist by any stretch of the imagination), I do find myself craving the connection which develops when we play and therefore making myself more available to these painful activites than I would under other circumstances.

Do you think your online search would be easier or more difficult if you posted D/s or M/s is what you are looking for?
I don't know.  I've always been honest in my profiles in online places so I don't know what might have happened had I not included those terms.

Do you have protocols for other Doms/Dommes contacting the owned one? If so what are they?
Nothing specific other than common courtesy on both sides.  I have permission to "take his name in vain" should an uncomfortable situation arise (I'm sorry, but Master said no). Otherwise I'm free to handle social discourse on my own and to go to him should I wish to interact further with others.

Thank you all in advance, as many of you know from previous postings here the house PhoenixRisen is of a philosophical bent and your answers set off many a great debate.

You're quite welcome.  I enjoyed thinking and writing about these things.







Kidless -> RE: M/s D/s Relationships (5/5/2006 9:42:53 AM)

Nodding.........it means you both sacrificed your freedom-which is why I stay the hell away from it.




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