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Brilliant essay on "entitlements" - 3/3/2011 7:35:14 PM

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David Brooks will decide when it's time for you to die...

I'm 100% in agreement.

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"What happens when there is no money to give to the people who have no money? That is the moral question. It's fine to say that the old people should have saved more, they should have worked an extra job, they should have done without cable TV, they should have invested more wisely. Saying that doesn't change the fact that there will be old people who do not have money. These old people will believe that they need food and shelter and medical care.

Will they get it? At the arch-plutocrats' end of things, the Koch brothers' end, the end occupied by the most devout worshippers of Ayn Rand, the answer is: no. That's the goal. It's long since time for the sloppy, implicit, badly supported social contract to go away. Rich people have been trimming their contribution to the general revenue for decades now. They are not interested in paying the premium that keeps old people and ailing people or just backward people out of the streets. If the day comes that they have to travel to and from their various compounds in armored helicopters, they can afford the helicopters. It's not their problem. "

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RE: Brilliant essay on "entitlements" - 3/3/2011 9:50:16 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

David Brooks will decide when it's time for you to die...

I'm 100% in agreement.

An excerpt:
"What happens when there is no money to give to the people who have no money? That is the moral question. It's fine to say that the old people should have saved more, they should have worked an extra job, they should have done without cable TV, they should have invested more wisely. Saying that doesn't change the fact that there will be old people who do not have money. These old people will believe that they need food and shelter and medical care.

Will they get it? At the arch-plutocrats' end of things, the Koch brothers' end, the end occupied by the most devout worshippers of Ayn Rand, the answer is: no. That's the goal. It's long since time for the sloppy, implicit, badly supported social contract to go away. Rich people have been trimming their contribution to the general revenue for decades now. They are not interested in paying the premium that keeps old people and ailing people or just backward people out of the streets. If the day comes that they have to travel to and from their various compounds in armored helicopters, they can afford the helicopters. It's not their problem. "

Who are these backward people you speak of?

So you don't want to worry about how a person got into the situation they are in or how it could have been prevented? You just want to deal with their need? Social security was supposed to be there for older people. The government fucked them out of that money. And fucked them good too. Not rich people, middle class people or poor people. The government. Governments raid the highway trust fund meant for roads to use on their budgets. I won't have my strength used to destroy me. The more you give the government, the more they spend.

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RE: Brilliant essay on "entitlements" - 3/3/2011 11:27:41 PM

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The government fucked them out of that money. And fucked them good too. Not rich people, middle class people or poor people.

In plutocracy there is no clear distinction between the government and money men. It is basically the same unit.

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RE: Brilliant essay on "entitlements" - 3/4/2011 3:03:30 AM

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"If the day comes that they have to travel to and from their various compounds in armored helicopters, they can afford the helicopters. It's not their problem. "

Nonsense. There is nobody capable of affording armoured helicopters who holds this view.

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RE: Brilliant essay on "entitlements" - 3/4/2011 9:04:12 AM

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"If the day comes that they have to travel to and from their various compounds in armored helicopters, they can afford the helicopters. It's not their problem. "

Nonsense. There is nobody capable of affording armoured helicopters who holds this view.

Have you not heard of the Koch brothers?

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RE: Brilliant essay on "entitlements" - 3/4/2011 11:01:29 AM

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Thanks Hk. This is depressing in the extreme.

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RE: Brilliant essay on "entitlements" - 3/4/2011 11:43:08 AM

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Koch brothers ? I'm more worried about George Soros..

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RE: Brilliant essay on "entitlements" - 3/4/2011 11:51:35 AM

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We are not actually broke.

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RE: Brilliant essay on "entitlements" - 3/4/2011 7:16:06 PM

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The government fucked them out of that money. And fucked them good too. Not rich people, middle class people or poor people.

In plutocracy there is no clear distinction between the government and money men. It is basically the same unit.

In some instances it might as well be the same hand.

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RE: Brilliant essay on "entitlements" - 3/4/2011 7:30:15 PM

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In plutocracy there is no clear distinction between the government and money men. It is basically the same unit.

In some instances it might as well be the same hand.

You refer to the invisible hand, perchance?

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RE: Brilliant essay on "entitlements" - 3/5/2011 6:05:07 AM

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Yeah that's one of the problems with too cozy a relationship between government and business. Money talks.

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