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Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/7/2011 4:31:48 PM   
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Me and my 'Daddy' started out monogamous and he has started feeling more of a switch than a Dominant and wants to submit to a woman. We have switched a bit but he says that since he has always been Dominant to me that he can't seem to submit to me. I don't have a whole lot of experience Dominating since I am submissive by nature. At first I thought I was okay with him looking for a Mistress but I also thought we would be looking together and he seemed to think he could look by himself then introduce them to me.. Thats when I felt blindsided by the fact that the man I fell in love with has changed and I obviously can't do something he wants so bad. I feel like if I agree to him looking for a Mistress that what will stop him from falling out of love with me and in love with her.. even tho we made the agreement that no matter what our relationship would be first and any Mistress he got would have to understand that. But the thing is I am a jealous person and I am insecure because of things that have happened in my past that I know I need to deal with. If he found a Mistress its not something he would be doing alone we came to the agreement that it would have to include us both.. but I would love to Dominate him myself because I do have those urges myself sometime.. am I wrong to get upset that he seems to think he needs a Mistress to see if this is something he wants to do? Should he find someone to play with first to try it out before finding a Mistress?? I love him and he says he loves me so I want him to be happy but I can't help but feel that one he might love submitting and by doing so he becomes unhappy by Dominating me and that he is getting to have two women, getting his cake and eating it to, and leaving me with only him.. If he gets someone else then shouldn't I be allowed the same thing? He doesn't want to share me but expects me to be okay with sharing him.. seems like a double standard to me and I am scared he is going to end up leaving me because he isn't happy with me and he swears it won't happen but he doesn't know that for sure.. plus from some posts he has posted on fetlife he wants to find a Mistress he can fall in love with.. I personally don't think you can truly love two people with your whole heart.. thats just my opinion. When we first got together it was understood what I wanted in the long run.. marriage and a family and now its like he is wanting to risk that and I just don't know what to do.. I have cried and we have fought all weekend.. I didn't know where else to go so I came here.. I would greatly appreciate any advice you can give me. (sorry if this seems jumbled.. I just wanted to get everything out.)

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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/7/2011 4:53:41 PM   
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am I wrong to get upset that he seems to think he needs a Mistress to see if this is something he wants to do?
That depends. If your "purpose" is to serve him then yes you're wrong. If, on the other hand, your purpose is to get for yourself what you can from this relationship then I'd say your upset is well founded. For the record, I'm not using "serve" in the BDSM sense. My purpose in life as a whole is to serve Carol. My marriage is about what I can give to her, not what I can take from her.

I love him and he says he loves me so I want him to be happy but I can't help but feel that one he might love submitting and by doing so he becomes unhappy by Dominating me and that he is getting to have two women, getting his cake and eating it to, and leaving me with only him.
Again, you need to figure out what your goals are. I would be very, very happy if Carol got to have her cake, eat it too, and also put it up on a shelf for display purposes. The more happiness she has, the better. That, of course, only really works because Carol is similarly focused on me and what I need. So I don't spend a lot of time worrying about that.

If he gets someone else then shouldn't I be allowed the same thing?
Since when did relationships become a tit-for-tat thing? What's next? keeping score? I don't know. Is it good for your relationship for you to do the same or not?

I am scared he is going to end up leaving me because he isn't happy with me
Possibly.. and as you suggest, nobody can know that... not even him. But that is only one possibility among many. The question I have is whether your fears are just fears or do you have reason to feel that way?

My overall advice is that for me, "love" is an action verb. When I say I love someone, what that means is that I intend to give to them. It isn't a claim on them. What I'd be doing is facilitating the experimentation on his part and if, in the end, he actually falls in love with a mistress then I'd be pleased that I helped him to get to find a proper relationship for him. Make no mistake, I'd be miserable also and eat a few gallons of ice cream. But that wouldn't change my decisions or my overall feeling about them. The bottom line is that if something is necessary for Carol's happiness, then it's just plain necessary for me... even if that thing were divorcing me.

You might also consider the fact that any other action really doesn't make any sense. If he, in fact, needs a dominant woman to be happy and if he's not capable of poly and you're naturally submissive then really your current relationship is hosed right now. The sooner you find that out, the better.

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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/7/2011 5:11:15 PM   
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I do think it's wrong not to give you even the opportunity to learn to top him. You say you occasionally have the urge to top and he has the urge to bottom, so it would seem reasonable to explore between you first. You gave him time to learn to top you, but he wants it all right away.

However, he's also told you numerous things which contradict each other. He wants to have you as his love interest and future wife but he also wants to fall in love with a mistress he could marry. Obviously he can't marry both of you.

Basically there isn't anything to argue about, he's made up his mind to seek someone else. You have to decide if this works for you or not. And you need to do what makes you happy because he doesn't seem interested in helping you find your happiness.


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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/7/2011 6:24:42 PM   
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Please, please, please in the future...... paragraphs. 

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Me and my 'Daddy' started out monogamous and he has started feeling more of a switch than a Dominant and wants to submit to a woman. We have switched a bit but he says that since he has always been Dominant to me that he can't seem to submit to me.

That's not that unusual.  If he wants the experience with a Dominant, he doesn't see you as an authority figure.  Some people can switch roles with the same person and others can't because it doesn't feel right.  He doesn't feel his submission with you.

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I don't have a whole lot of experience Dominating since I am submissive by nature.

Which might be exactly why he doesn't see you as a Dominant.

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At first I thought I was okay with him looking for a Mistress but I also thought we would be looking together and he seemed to think he could look by himself then introduce them to me.

What exactly were the terms of the agreement?  This sounds like a communication issue.  You "thought" but what was said?

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Thats when I felt blindsided by the fact that the man I fell in love with has changed and I obviously can't do something he wants so bad.

If he decided tomorrow that he was vanilla, would you feel bad that you weren't that, too?

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I feel like if I agree to him looking for a Mistress that what will stop him from falling out of love with me and in love with her.. even tho we made the agreement that no matter what our relationship would be first and any Mistress he got would have to understand that. But the thing is I am a jealous person and I am insecure because of things that have happened in my past that I know I need to deal with.

It's not always the wisest idea to base decisions on fear.  Jealousy and insecurity are two major ways to condemn any poly attempt (which is what you're really talking about) to failure.  You're already out of whack and he hasn't even found an additional partner yet.  Not the best situation for an additional person who will be coming into his life to have to walk into.

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If he found a Mistress its not something he would be doing alone we came to the agreement that it would have to include us both.

Do the people that he's contacting for sceneing with or submitting to know this? 

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but I would love to Dominate him myself because I do have those urges myself sometime.

As I said earlier, he might not feel submissive towards you. 

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am I wrong to get upset that he seems to think he needs a Mistress to see if this is something he wants to do?

Your feelings aren't wrong, but neither are his. 

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Should he find someone to play with first to try it out before finding a Mistress??

I'd suggest that he tries some play with someone else before actually submitting.  At the same time, I'm going to predict that there will be some fall out.  You're already jealous and insecure and he hasn't even done any exploring with anyone else yet.

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I love him and he says he loves me so I want him to be happy but I can't help but feel that one he might love submitting and by doing so he becomes unhappy by Dominating me and that he is getting to have two women, getting his cake and eating it to, and leaving me with only him.

Yes, that is the risk you are taking.  He may find that he feels happier as a submissive.  He might be a switch who would like to have both roles active in his life. 

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If he gets someone else then shouldn't I be allowed the same thing?

I'm going to echo Jeff (Leadership527) here.  Since he is your Daddy, I would say that you might ask if you could do some exploring as well, but it doesn't sound like this was a condition to the original agreement that you've already made.  Above you said the potential Mistress would be involved with you, too, so it's not "just" him that gets an additional person.  Which is it?
 
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He doesn't want to share me but expects me to be okay with sharing him.. seems like a double standard to me

Do you expect equality in your dynamic?

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and I am scared he is going to end up leaving me because he isn't happy with me and he swears it won't happen but he doesn't know that for sure.

No, he doesn't and neither do you.  Sounds like you've based a lot of your thoughts on fear.  Lousy way to keep a relationship is to make the decisions based on an unsubstantiated emotion.

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plus from some posts he has posted on fetlife he wants to find a Mistress he can fall in love with.  I personally don't think you can truly love two people with your whole heart.. thats just my opinion.

You're entitled to your opinion.  A number of poly folks would disagree with you.

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When we first got together it was understood what I wanted in the long run.. marriage and a family and now its like he is wanting to risk that and I just don't know what to do.

He might still want those things along with wanting the opportunity to explore his submissive side.  Isn't it better that he tell you now rather than after you are married and have a family?

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I have cried and we have fought all weekend.. I didn't know where else to go so I came here.. I would greatly appreciate any advice you can give me. (sorry if this seems jumbled.. I just wanted to get everything out.)

Most things that folks bring to the boards involving problems with their partner are better solved between the parties involved.  I'd say that you probably need to resolve the fear, jealousy, and insecurity issues before this plan goes forward.  I would put money on the potential for upcoming drama.

Ask if the subject can be reopened.  Maybe show him the thread, but the two of you need to talk.


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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/7/2011 7:48:22 PM   
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About the double standard thing he is always talking about the rules being the same for both of us.. so in our relationship it should be an equality thing in things such as this. And as for the loving more than one person thing I know many poly people would disagree with me that is why I said its my opinion. I know personally I wouldn't be able to love too people equally and so one would be getting less of my love than another and I don't think that is fair to anyone in a relationship.. And I don't want to experience that myself I want his whole heart not just a piece of it. I know that my fears and insecurities arise from my past and trying to reconcile in my mind that he is different and he didn't do those things to me is harder than it looks. I want more than anything for us to be happy together and I wish that it could be done without involving anyone else. Thank you all for the replies..

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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/7/2011 7:57:03 PM   
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You're being played.  Drop him, find someone else, you'll get over it, etc.


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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/7/2011 8:50:43 PM   
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All I can say is that it seems to be bothering you quite a bit and if it's not something you are interested in then I don't think you should accept it. He seems to be the one who changed things up and you have two choices....be on board with the changes or not. Only you can decide if you can accept his desire to be poly or not.

As much as I love my Dom I wouldn't be able to accept a change on his part to include something that wasn't what I wanted and I guess it would suck to let him go, but that's what I'd probably end up doing. I won't be subjecting myself to something that made me miserable no matter how much love I had for him, that's just me. Good luck in making your decision.

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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/7/2011 9:31:44 PM   
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I think that what it comes down to is that you have 2 choices. Deal with it or leave. This is not meant to be cold ... believe me. I am in a similar situation only he wants more submissive women. I decided that i choose to serve him. If i implode and cannot do it then i know that i tried everything i can.

You are right that he cannot know that he wont fall out of love with you. That has nothing to do with this situation though. No one KNOWS that it will be happily ever after. Is the ride worth the price of admission?

Either choice you make i wish ya luck cause it wont be easy.

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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/7/2011 10:07:57 PM   
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Okay.. so where do we start?

Maybe at the start.. the fighting. This has got to stop. Each fight undermines the relationship. Each time you fight there is a conflict, each conflict can only be resolved by one person being right, and the other person being wrong. Someone always gets hurt, someone is always degraded, and the relationship is weakened as a result.

People in relationships think things through, they talk, they discuss, and they talk again, because this is what keeps people together in a relationship. It doesn't matter whether it's a 'nilla marriage, a Master-slave dynamic, people talk, talk and talk. Communication.

That is, of course, dependent on how much you really want to be with someone and how happy and fulfilled the relationship makes you feel. People change over the course of time, especially in a long term relationship, and how they change isn't always known ahead of time. When they change, it changes the way the other person relates to that person and so the relationship changes. The longer the projected or shared objective the relationship, the more likely the change.

In any sort of relationship there's more than enough feelings and love and stuff to go around. That's why a relationship exists isn't it? To bring happiness to two people. If you can think, keep an open mind, and communicate, then why the need to fight? Why the need to harbour fears?

If you love someone, then you need to accept that sometimes for whatever reason - life for example - relationships may not always last and you may need to let go of that person. Are you prepared to lose that person? Not trying to be pessimistic here, just realistic. Relationships don't usually come with warranties, you can't get insurance on them, and there's an element of risk involved.

I'm actually sitting here interested in knowing how you two got together, how long you spent in each other's company before deciding on a relationship, how long it took from first meeting to setting up and agreeing on some sort of dynamic. I think this information would shed quite a bit of light on the situation.

First thing is, it doesn't matter where you stand in a dynamic you need to be able to feel it and feel it with that other person. If it's just a case of dominant meet submissive and getting it together there'd be far far less profiles on the other side and a lot more happy people around. But this isn't how it works out in reality. It's not about dom and sub coming together, it's about the right dom coming together with the right sub.

Switching makes it even more complicated. If you feel dominant towards someone and that's how it's developed it can be difficult to change over and submit to them. It's possible of course, but it might not feel the same or bring the right degree of fulfillment and happiness. And when all is said and done, this is all what all this is about, isn't it? Fulfillment, pleasure, happiness.

The other thing is, you explain that you are jealous and insecure because of things which have happened in your past. And? So? What are you doing to address these issues? Anything? Where does the responsibility start with these insecurity issues, and where does it end?

You see there's two ways of looking at this. On the one hand you can post as you have out of fear, and fight, and run the risk of losing the relationship, letting your insecurity issues influence the way you think and feel, and end up with the issues owning you rather than the other way round.

But then on the other hand, wouldn't this be a wonderful opportunity to confront those issues once and for all, try to get to grips with them, own them, and maybe get in some personal development out of it together with some experience. Sure, you could lose the relationship, but if you do, you will have gained because you could end up in a better emotional state than you were at the start.

Thing is about fear, it's nothing other than a lack of knowledge or understanding of something you have not yet experienced. As for insecurity, this is just a fear of letting go, which maybe points to some self-esteem issues or something which affects your self-confidence. What is it? Do you know? What are you doing about it?

You see you can look at this from another different perspective, taking into account this insecurity, this jealousy, and see it for what it is, emotional neediness. This isn't the free and easy give take sort of love, but a need to be loved, a demanding love, and then when you see it like that it kind of turns the whole dynamic upside down where Daddy dom is being manipulated by his submissive who is needy and insecure. This might not be how it looks in reality, but this is how it can appear to someone looking in from the outside.

Who is really in control here? Is it Daddy? Is it you? Or is it your issues with jealousy and insecurity?

Can you not see how these issues could be affecting, or even threatening the relationship? In fact having read both profiles I would strongly advise you both to sit down and work out a more solid basis for a relationship between the two of you before even considering bringing a third person into the relationship. I get the feeling you're not giving us the complete picture here, you can't get any sense of a complete picture from the profiles and so I assume you both aren't giving each other the complete picture. I suspect the issues are affecting your relationship to the degree of making him feel insecure and unsure. I could be wrong, but I'm not discounting it as a possibility.

Whether the relationship can be saved, restored, repaired depends on how much you two want to be together, how much you are prepared to work at being together, how much you are prepared to talk things through and transform what is discussed into attitudes and actions.

But one thing for sure is you need to work on yourself and your issues, particularly your self-confidence and insecurity and somehow get a better sense of your own self-worth and self-esteem. You need to get away from needing to be loved and work towards the general direction of choosing to be loved. You need to develop the courage to love someone knowing that they could walk away. Otherwise you're just going to end up being caught up in cycles of difficult or less than fulfilling relationships and having the sort of problems as the one which brought you here.

The other thing about insecurity is that the big picture is always scary, you need to break things down into small chunks. You're in your mid-20's, attractive, you have an endearing smile, and you have the rest of your life out there before you ready to be lived. The 'home sweet home', white picket fence and settling down will come in its own time, and you will have plenty of time to practise grunting and preparing for old age in your 40's.

It's not the relationships you decide at the start which are the ones which last, but the ones where you wake up one morning and realize you've been sleeping beside the same person for the past 15 years.

I hope that whatever happens it works out for you, but if it doesn't then maybe it's time to take a bit of time out, have a bit of 'me' time, build yourself up a bit and go towards a better relationship as a stronger and better person for the experience.

Oh and anyone can tell you that they love you. You need someone beside you who loves you the way in which you can feel. But first I strongly suspect you need to find a way of loving yourself and getting over all those insecurity issues.

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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/7/2011 10:23:18 PM   
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There are basic roles that are fundamental keys to making a relationship work.

If a hetro woman marries a “man” who later finds his inner feminine self and gets a sex change . . . is the hetro woman expected to become a lesbian?  I think not.

If a sub female pairs with a male Dom in a mono relationship but later the Dom turns submissive and wants to become a poly, is the sub female expected to become a switch, go poly and grease the strap-on dildo her guy’s new Mistress is gonna’ shove up his ass?    I think not.

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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/7/2011 10:44:28 PM   
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am I wrong to get upset that he seems to think he needs a Mistress to see if this is something he wants to do?
i don't have a lot of experience, but it seems to me that if you started out monogamous then you have every right to be upset. that sort of change in a relationship is to my mind something that has to be discussed - it might be a dealbreaker (wouldn't be for me - but i can easily see how it would be for others)

if you are really uncomfortable with it - perhaps he could go to a pro for a session or two to see if he really likes it


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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/8/2011 12:09:04 AM   
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You're being played.  Drop him, find someone else, you'll get over it, etc.



This.

You're young and beautiful, so be smart. Get out and find someone whose needs and desires fit well with yours. His don't.

You moved there to be with him less than a year ago, and poly isn't what you signed on for. It doesn't suit you, by your own account. Basically he's saying you no longer fit his needs well enough. So tell him he no longer fits yours. You have every right to get your needs and desires properly addressed. Find someone who is a good fit for you.

My first thought is that he's a sub who couldn't get a dom, so he switched- and got you. But now he sees that he needs more. He's still a sub at heart. Nothing wrong with that, but that's not what you signed up for. He either intentionally decieved you, or he just didn't know himself well enough. Whatever- you don't have to stick around, unless you can get your own needs and desires properly addressed there somehow. I'd leave it.

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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/8/2011 6:07:54 AM   
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its possible to love more than one person and for that not to infringe on the love you have specifically for someone else and what they bring into youre life.  i would imagine youre partner is capable of having a Domme he loves for what she brings to his life and loving you for what you bring into his life.

as for the other fear, that he might love being more sub than dominant, well, you cant change a persons nature and who they are and what they want to be and that goes for you being sub, you cant change that and you cant make youreself Domme for him, its either there or it isnt. 

he might end up wanting to be more sub than dom and in the end that is his internal workings and nothing to do with you failing to be what he needs, or he might discover that he is more comfy dominant and the submission is just a release valve he needs from time to time.

i think youre just going to have to suck it and see really. the option is to leave and youre not going to do that because you love him and he loves you and this all might work out just fine for everyone.

the big trick is to remember that he loves you for you and that will always be unique because youre unique to him and what you give to him as a sub is all youres.  the relationship he has with a Domme will be different and unique in its own way too.

most people love more than one person when you think about it - in the end its all about sharing the man you love.  not everyone can do that.  you wont know until you get there.

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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/8/2011 7:21:10 AM   
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long-term goals are important, and if you have these deep-seated goals you want to achieve, like marriage and family, and he no longer shares those goals, you might have to bail. you don't necessarily know that he doesn't share them anymore, though -- it's still possible because you don't really know that he's going to like submisssion more than Dominance. if that turns out to be the way it goes, though, you might have to rethink your relationship (maybe even drastically) or just go your separate ways. you've said that your relationship has a "same rules for everyone" clause, so there is a double standard happening (he doesn't want to share, but expects you to share), and when a man can't keep up with his own standards, that's something that makes me lose interest. =p within the rules of your relationship, i'd say you have a right to be irritated by that. he would probably feel hurt if the situation was reversed and wants to use "dominance" and "rules" to create a situation where he won't ever feel that discomfort (pretty common tactic) while also subjecting you to it.
do you know if he's always felt this way? you said he started feeling switchy; how far into the relationship was this? had you guys just started out monogamous by default, or had you talked about it, and poly was a "no go" for you?
honestly, his feeling "unable" to see you in a dominant capacity isn't all that weird -- he's gotten to know you as who you are, you say you occasionally have toppy feelings, but topping and being Dominant are different things. changing who you are at the core would be difficult for you, and probably not the experience he wants.

my experience of having poly "sprang" on me (which is basically what's happening to you + some extra trimmings) was this -- i met a great guy, and at the time i was fairly naive, and didn't even think about "poly" because i thought that was something they only did in California. =p we got together as fwb's (which was pretty weird, if you knew me at the time haha =p) and then ended up becoming super serious. admittedly, i had a few suspicions, but i didn't know enough about it to really say what it was, and several months down the line, he told me that he was poly. i was pissed off, because i felt like he'd taken away my right to choose to stay or not -- no kidding, by that point, the relationship was so ridiculously strong that i felt like i couldn't. =p i could pick up and leave, but lose someone with whom i felt 100% real, or i could stay and stick it out, and just "see what happened," which is what i did. i realized it wasn't as much of a relationship death sentence as i thought it would be -- BUT, our long-term goals basically remained in tact. and admittedly, he only played with others in the time we were together, he didn't form any long-term relationships with them, but i became more accepting of the possibility, even if, at the time, i didn't totally "get" it.

you have the added bit of this new relationship fulfilling something for him that could run deeper than what your relationship with him provides, which is understandably scary for someone who never set out with poly in mind. you're worried about winding up as a "side project," with all of his attention and future goals being directed towards the new FemDom (if he finds one) and you being put on the back burner. note: you do not have to be poly. sometimes people act like poly is THE only way, it's "more evolved" or whatever other backhanded snark people like to tack onto the mono vs. poly debate, but you can be perfectly happy as a monogamous girl with a monogamous Guy. you have long-term goals that are important to you, and this guy just may not be the one who's going to the end of the line with you. it's very easy to get all-or-nothing about a relationship, but every relationship we have isn't meant to be forever-n-ever-amen; some of them are just for us to learn something and then move on.

if you really, really love this person, it might be worthwhile to hang out and give it a shot and see what happens. there are lots of s-types with switchy guys, and for them it often works better to not be a part of his submission sessions. sometimes, though, love can make you stay somewhere that's not fulfilling longer than you would in other circumstances. try to get a handle on the insecurities (easier said than done, i know) because then you can make more clearheaded decisions that aren't totally motivated by fear. note: everyone's got insecurities, even the poliest of the poly -- they just have them in different places. sometimes fear of loss is accompanied by fear of being alone, but being stuck in a place that doesn't fit you can often be much worse than simply being on your own.

have you ever tried a journal? they're great ways to deal with deep dark personal feelings and secrets by getting them out of your head, while also not having to let anyone else in on them. journals have always worked really well for me.


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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/8/2011 8:29:34 AM   
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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/8/2011 8:32:51 AM   
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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/8/2011 8:52:31 AM   
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I do think it's wrong not to give you even the opportunity to learn to top him.



Yep, I agree.

If you've been with a woman who you've always seen as vanilla, or submissive, for a long time, it can feel like it'd be impossible to see her in any other way.

It isn't impossible, but it *does* take a wrench on the mind, as well as training and practice. In the past, I couldn't have made that wrench in my way of seeing a partner, simply because I *believed*, way too strongly, that I couldn't have made it.

I could now, though. Hah! Very easily indeed. It's often only in retrospect that one can see just how stupidly obstinate one was about a way of seeing a thing.

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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/8/2011 11:32:48 AM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

I do think it's wrong not to give you even the opportunity to learn to top him.



Yep, I agree.

If you've been with a woman who you've always seen as vanilla, or submissive, for a long time, it can feel like it'd be impossible to see her in any other way.

It isn't impossible, but it *does* take a wrench on the mind, as well as training and practice. In the past, I couldn't have made that wrench in my way of seeing a partner, simply because I *believed*, way too strongly, that I couldn't have made it.

I could now, though. Hah! Very easily indeed. It's often only in retrospect that one can see just how stupidly obstinate one was about a way of seeing a thing.


I agree with this as well. It seems if he has someone already he should see if it would work between the two of you to switch things up. I mean honestly, it's probably not going to be the worst thing in the world even if it's not a wild success. It might not work, whatever, and the two of you will decide on a course of action if that is so.

It almost seems as though he is insisting on another person to take the D role because he sees it as a way to screw another woman. Not to say he doesn't want you anymore, he just wants the novelty....lots of people do. It really seems as though he wants to play around but keep you and his relationship with you intact and waiting on the side. I do believe that people can love more than one person, it's hard to say if this is his goal or just fucking around is his goal. The double standard thing bothers me as well, that's just me. If he wants something he should be on board for you to have it too. I agree with the people saying that in some relationships a double standard exists and that's the way it is- it would be hard for ME to accept that and therefore it wouldn't be a part of any relationship in my own life. Decide what is right for you.

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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/8/2011 7:01:16 PM   
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We talked about this last night I texted him while he was at work and told him I wanted to Domme him and show him I could do it and if after that he didn't want me to do it anymore we would come to a compromise or if he liked it we could continue it or if he just didn't want to sub anymore that would be fine too. At first he said no but he eventually went with the flow last night when he got home. He only wanted to be sub for the sexual aspects last night and he loved it :-p and we talked about how the more he thought about getting a Mistress, and having her Domme us both the more he realized he couldn't share me, and I told him Now you know how I feel. We talked it out and he got a bit of what he wanted last night and I told him if he ever feels submissive again to let me know I can't read his mind I need to be told these things. I can switch my Domme side on and off at anytime he can't switch his like that. After our talk and me being able to Domme him and him enjoying it.. and some other things I feel alot happier and more secure than I did.

Yesterday when I posted this I felt stressed out and depressed. I felt like I was at the end of my rope and I needed advice. This MIGHT come up in the future but if we keep the communication open and he lets me know when he wants to be submissive and I can do that for him I don't think it will, but as many have said anything is possible. I do want to thank everyone for their advice, it helped me from pulling my hair out.

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RE: Monogamous to Poly?? - 3/8/2011 9:20:07 PM   
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