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EternalHoH -> Goldwater rolling in his grave (3/8/2011 10:18:16 AM)
It is nice to know that republicans have our "small government" interests at heart! http://fltrib.com/photographing-cows-or-other-farm-scenery-could-land-you-jail-under-senate-bill

Lucylastic -> RE: Goldwater rolling in his grave (3/8/2011 10:22:36 AM)
yep saving the economy and the rights of farmers one repub at a time

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Goldwater rolling in his grave (3/8/2011 10:31:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EternalHoH It is nice to know that republicans have our "small government" interests at heart! http://fltrib.com/photographing-cows-or-other-farm-scenery-could-land-you-jail-under-senate-bill When did Goldwater express anything against protecting intellectual property? Its one of the foundations of capitalism, and Barry was most certainly a capitalist.

truckinslave -> RE: Goldwater rolling in his grave (3/8/2011 10:34:27 AM)
Much ado about constituent services. Someone owed someone a favor. Any bets there's ever a vote on it?

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Goldwater rolling in his grave (3/8/2011 10:37:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: truckinslave Much ado about constituent services. Someone owed someone a favor. Any bets there's ever a vote on it? Hopefully its voted on and passed...in the same bill they use to defund ag subsidies!

hlen5 -> RE: Goldwater rolling in his grave (3/8/2011 10:41:37 AM)
I wonder if this isn't a way to get rid of people secretly filming abuses by big Agribusiness? I have yet to see it but there was an indie film about made a couple of years ago with secret video about raising/slaughtering beef. It had a scene where a cow was being sprayed in the face with a water hose in order to get it to move to slaughter. Another cow was moved to slaughter by forklift because it couldn't walk. I think regulations say the cow has to be able to walk to be killed. This "law" would make it illegal to film such stuff, I guess. So I'd say no to this bill/law. I think if Agribusiness had it's way, we'd be back to the times of Upton Sinclair.

EternalHoH -> RE: Goldwater rolling in his grave (3/8/2011 10:48:01 AM)
We already have laws that protect IP. If the IP is within easy sight from public land, then its the IP owner's responsibility to pay for a building or a high fence before restricting those on public land from viewing it from public land. The inability to balance the needs of capitalism with protection of personal liberties, even the personal liberties of your 'political enemies', is how we ended up down the slippery slope with today's Republicanism not being very Goldwateresque.

Fellow -> RE: Goldwater rolling in his grave (3/8/2011 10:50:19 AM)
The idea is hard to explain. It could be the photos can be potentially passed to Chinese and they may ask the farm as a collateral to debt.

Marc2b -> RE: Goldwater rolling in his grave (3/8/2011 11:25:14 AM)
quote: I think regulations say the cow has to be able to walk to be killed. I now have this Gary Larson-esque image in my head of a cow hiding behind a barn, pointing a gun at her leg, slowly working up the courage... "C'mon! You can do this! It won't hurt that much and then I'll be allowed to live! Live, damn it! I want to live!"

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Goldwater rolling in his grave (3/8/2011 11:34:22 AM)
nm!

hlen5 -> RE: Goldwater rolling in his grave (3/8/2011 12:03:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Marc2b quote: I think regulations say the cow has to be able to walk to be killed. I now have this Gary Larson-esque image in my head of a cow hiding behind a barn, pointing a gun at her leg, slowly working up the courage... "C'mon! You can do this! It won't hurt that much and then I'll be allowed to live! Live, damn it! I want to live!" I loooooooove Gary Larson!!

DomKen -> RE: Goldwater rolling in his grave (3/8/2011 12:10:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hlen5 I wonder if this isn't a way to get rid of people secretly filming abuses by big Agribusiness? I have yet to see it but there was an indie film about made a couple of years ago with secret video about raising/slaughtering beef. It had a scene where a cow was being sprayed in the face with a water hose in order to get it to move to slaughter. Another cow was moved to slaughter by forklift because it couldn't walk. I think regulations say the cow has to be able to walk to be killed. This "law" would make it illegal to film such stuff, I guess. So I'd say no to this bill/law. I think if Agribusiness had it's way, we'd be back to the times of Upton Sinclair. That's the point of the bill in Florida.

Termyn8or -> RE: Goldwater rolling in his grave (3/9/2011 2:44:44 AM)
"I wonder if this isn't a way to get rid of people secretly filming abuses by big Agribusiness" "That's the point of the bill in Florida" I must go now. Too much agreement here. T^T

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