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tazzygirl -> Indiana and abortions (3/9/2011 8:47:02 PM)

Indiana is trying to pass a law declaring all women who have abortions must be told that abortions are linked to breast cancer....

.......................despite what the medical research states.

About 500 demonstrators gathered on the Statehouse lawn to oppose efforts to cut off funding for Planned Parenthood, and to protest a bill that would make abortions illegal after 20 weeks and require that women seeking abortions be told the procedure could cause breast cancer.

The rally was aimed at Indiana legislators who strongly oppose abortion and who have two years to translate those feelings into state law.

"One hundred and eighteen of Indiana's lawmakers are male," said Planned Parenthood of Indiana President Betty Cockrum. "Only one is a doctor. But oh, how they love to pretend they know what's best for us, those anti-choice men."

"The vast majority of both the Senate and House are pro-life legislators, and I think we truly represent Hoosier constituents," said Rep. Eric Turner, R-Cicero, who authored HB 1210, the bill that would make abortions illegal after 20 weeks. Current state law bans it after the fetus is viable, which a doctor determines, generally around 24 weeks.

Turner's measure also would require abortion providers to tell patients that abortion carries risks including the possibility of breast cancer -- a claim disputed by the American Cancer Society -- and require a woman seeking abortions to view an ultrasound picture of the fetus unless she stated in writing that she did not want to.

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"There's virtually nothing to stop these now that there's a Republican majority in both houses and a Republican governor," said Robert Dion, political science professor at the University of Evansville.

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Rep Robert Morris, R-Fort Wayne, who opposes both abortion and premarital sex, stopped by the demonstration and pronounced it a "travesty." He said better education on the part of parents would help prevent unwanted pregnancies.

"Our country needs to get back to basic morality about teaching youth and teaching our kids the consequences, what happens if you have sex outside of marriage."

Timothy O'Donnell, Fishers, said he believed Pence's efforts to defund Planned Parenthood do not go far enough. He said all abortion providers should lose funding.
Among the demonstrators was Indianapolis City-County Council member Jackie Nytes.

She said she was troubled by the fact that a Senate committee voted down a Democratic amendment that would have required that all information given to women seeking abortions had to be "medically and scientifically accurate."

Studies touted by the Republican National Coalition for Life cite a connection between abortion and breast cancer. However, several studies touted by the American Cancer Society dispute any clear link between breast cancer and abortion.
"If the information was all medically correct, then they should have voted for the amendment," Nytes said. "By voting down the amendment, it looks to me like an admission that there is information being shared that is not medically correct."


http://www.thestarpress.com/article/20110309/NEWS01/103090314/1002/rss

This law would also defund much of Planned Parenthood. But, to lie to women... and feel morally superior in doing so...

~sighs




TheHeretic -> RE: Indiana and abortions (3/9/2011 10:30:59 PM)

Yep. Meat to the base, for the courts to chuck out.




tazzygirl -> RE: Indiana and abortions (3/9/2011 10:33:21 PM)

Yeah, its sorta what I figure. Offer a little, knowing it will fail, then say "I tried".




TheHeretic -> RE: Indiana and abortions (3/9/2011 10:53:26 PM)

How long have Republicans been getting elected on ending abortion, Tazzy? How many asshole guys are having any trouble exercising their right to hand the girlfriend a couple hundred bucks and tell her to get rid of the fucking thing? It's a talking point and press release war, with the occasional media frenzy on a court case. It also makes for good fundraising.





willbeurdaddy -> RE: Indiana and abortions (3/10/2011 12:55:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

How long have Republicans been getting elected on ending abortion,


Since there has been no change in abortion law for decades, Id say its been a very long time since anyone was elected because of their stance on abortion. It can be a disqualifier, but a pro-life Democrat has as at least as much chance of negative results as a pro-choice Republican.




Termyn8or -> RE: Indiana and abortions (3/10/2011 1:25:49 AM)

I don't think it's all that big a factor either, for a different reason. No one asshole getting elected could change it. The supreme court has spoken. Wanna change it ? Restack the court, get some idiot to bring it up again and then get them to hear it and hope it's stacked right. No one person can do this, and that's why I would still support Ron Paul, despite his abortion problem. His fiscal responsility-sense being President he could possibly effect some positive change, but what could he possibly do about Roe v Wade ? This shit ain't happenin buddy, how bout you keep your eye on the money ?

There is a voting boc however, the Bible belters that won't vote for anyone who is pro abortion. Not for a million dallars. The sheeple. I wish them a happy shearing. My ex boss is one, I hung up on him three times talking about this. No, I didn't get fired, it was about three years before I quit. We had to agree to disagree. With all his faith, the money I could make him was more important, so he had a heathen such as me in his midst. Oh, the humanity !

The court has also ruled that it is legal to lie. The media is allowed to lie with impunity. Now what do you think the government is allowed to do ?

So this means shit, except for the Bible belters. How big a bloc can they be ? Fukum.

T^T




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