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Termyn8or -> RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system (the american dream) (3/11/2011 9:07:25 PM)
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"We have a bunch of retards that believe bullets can do u turns, buildings can fall into themselves, and its ok to shoot and burn women and children if they do not agree with you VOTING for shits sake. and lucky to be capable of spelling their own name in charge of policing and seeing through all the bullshit to protect ourselves from tyranny of corporate conglomerates and corrut gubmint?
Hell walk into mikey d's and ask any one what their opinion is of the fractional banking, hypothecation and monetization of everything including them..... and watch the deer in the headlights look come over their faces. "
Then what's the point ? You expect a quantum leap into a dimension even I don't understand. Start with baby steps. Why can't the state charge me with not having insurance without my signing their license ? And at least a dozen people have beaten speeding tickets, and kept everything. How ? The state requires towns, municipalities whatever to adhere to guidlines when setting a speed limit. If you get caught doing 34 in a 25 here, and they haven't done a "proper" traffric survey that shows by state standards, that a lower limit is appropriate, it is deemed a speed trap under state law. At least here. But that is using their own rules against them. You have the ability to do that, and a journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. Not in Onio ? Make the charge anyway that it is a speed trap and see which way the wind blows. If Ohio's law is deemed Constitutional, then what follows ? Subsequent battles, they might produce case law, or in the case of Ohio, legislative action. This is using your opponent's force against him.
Forget all these lofty ideals of taking over, it's been tried. It ain't gonna happen. You carve out your existence and gain peace by fucking with them so bad that they don't even want to see you, let alone put you in their jail. Feed you and clothe you while you study and formulate your appeal, or other nuisance, any nuisance possible. Do nothing but cost them energy, in whatever form, be it money or manpower, whatever.
Sometimes you goad them into actions that are actionable, as long as they're not too smart. You can't count on that, but it does happen. You can find civil issues that you can stick so far up their craw they'll never get it out. But you can't do it with your own rules. You think if you know Robert's Rules Of Order you're a lawyer ? Certainly not.
I'm here to tell you that you don't know as much as you think. Understand that I am not saying you are stupid or anything of the sort. But what you write indicates to me that you have had very little experience with the statutory courts. Let me put it bluntly. When you walk in there you are not allowed to have a gun. They all have guns and plenty of little rooms for you. And it's not just that.
You can't go to their arena and play your own game, it is their game. It's like going to a baseball stadium and playing football. If it were your stadium they would have the problem, but since it is their stadium what do you think the situation is ? They'll call you crazy - liteerally, and send you for a MANDATORY psyche eval. I have seen it happen. It doesn't matter, the guy it happened to did eventually prevail, and we can prtobably agree that the court really wanted him declared non compos mentis so that he could not proceed pro se. Regardless, after hundreds of thousands of dollars and over a year of his life, he eventually dropped the pro se stance and did what he had to do to get out because he wasn't doing a damn thing in the joint. In a way he was lucky, because when he finally did find the right lawyer, the case records up to that point supported his appeal and subsequent exoneration for something that was clearly against statutory law. (with irrefutable evidence)
I applaud him for fighting them, but it wasn't really worth it, even though he won. We are talking about two hundred fucking grand and over a year in prison. He thought of suing them, I said - why ? Win a tort case after how many more hours and whatever, and get a check for the money he must sign without opening a bank account ? You think he can just take that check and walk out with a half million cash ? Not only won't it happen, it can't happen.
I just don't know what to say to get it to sink in. The game is rigged. I don't even know what your goal might be. The government is not going to just step down. They will only back down in certain circumstances. You don't seem to have those circumstances. This happens rarely because they made the rules and they make the decisions. They only decide against themselves for window dressing. To be able to claim that they are fair.
Accept the small victories, until people wake up on their own. You can't give people an idea, they come to on their own, and that's the fact. And as fucked up as it sounds, these circumstances are a matter of nature, like it or not. By trying to upset the whole thing you are actually fighting nature. I can be with you but I will not go with you on a suicide mission.
T^T
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