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belleunchained -> RE: IS there no Transdom or only Femdom Trans-fetishism? (3/20/2011 7:17:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistranssSadia

"...men who are into Transexual domination are basically gay/bi men with a deep sexual prefrence acceptance disorder, you are a trans, that´s a female image with a penis, sugar-coating the pill of their latent homosexuality to them, that´s like a sidestep, or the next step from strap-on fetishism, that is, any Transexual is a fetish object for them..."


I agree with several of those who have already posted - your friend's statement is a possibility, but it's a gross oversimplification, and there's no guarantee it applies to any or all of your subs. Human sexuality is complex, and it would be a disservice to say, "Because they are attracted to Mistranss Sadia, I understand everything about their sexuality."

If you're worried or just curious, talk to them about it. Ask them about their sexual history, fantasies, and other things.

I don't know much about trans BDSM culture. How would you like your subs to see you? As equivalent to a cis-Domme, or someone different?






krissykat -> RE: IS there no Transdom or only Femdom Trans-fetishism? (3/25/2011 12:36:23 PM)

The truth is that psychologists also have biases. I think that what she said was absolutely rediculous. For the record I identify as a black pre-op transwoman. If what this psychologist says is true, then isnt it also true that every white guy I've ever dated claiming to have a preference for black women has a black fetish? I believe that it does occur in some cases but her friend made a generalization. So yes there are guys who are interested in us simply as a fetish but there are also guys who simply have a preference.

I've personally I've never dated a man whom identified himself a bi or gay. A gay man would not be interested in a M-F because they are attracted to masculinity and we clearly are not masculine. Bi guys, i cant comment on.




mwdsub4u -> RE: IS there no Transdom or only Femdom Trans-fetishism? (3/26/2011 12:06:10 PM)

You are he perfect Domme for me , look feel dress like a Lady , yet have that big cum filled cock for me to serve, what more could i ask for?




iansub -> RE: IS there no Transdom or only Femdom Trans-fetishism? (3/27/2011 9:47:17 AM)

I personally don't agree with what your psychologist friend says, I am attracted to Trans women and don't think of myself as either gay or bi-sexual, I regard myself as being straight. Ultimately I believe when we fall in love with someone, we're falling in love with them, not their bodies. It's their mind, their personality, the way they see the world that we love, that attracts us.   

If that person so happens to be a man, woman or transgendered man or woman it doesn't matter so long as the couple are happy, to me that's all that matters. I do feel that society and individuals have a need to constantly explain sexuality and to constantly categorise a person's sexuality and say they're straight, they're gay, they're bi-sexual and to pigeon-hole into groups. When in reality I feel people's sexuality is more fluidic than that.

Also I think there are times when people over think things and over analyse, as Sigmund Freud, I think, said sometimes a cake is just a cake.

ian 




LadyNTrainer -> RE: IS there no Transdom or only Femdom Trans-fetishism? (3/27/2011 11:24:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mwdsub4u

You are he perfect Domme for me , look feel dress like a Lady , yet have that big cum filled cock for me to serve, what more could i ask for?


Classic example of fetishizing the transwoman instead of being supportive and respectful of her need to actually transition.  [8|]




hausboy -> RE: IS there no Transdom or only Femdom Trans-fetishism? (3/27/2011 11:42:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer

quote:

ORIGINAL: mwdsub4u

You are he perfect Domme for me , look feel dress like a Lady , yet have that big cum filled cock for me to serve, what more could i ask for?


Classic example of fetishizing the transwoman instead of being supportive and respectful of her need to actually transition.  [8|]


LNT--thank you for posting what I was thinking!  exactly exactly.




LadyNTrainer -> RE: IS there no Transdom or only Femdom Trans-fetishism? (3/27/2011 2:47:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: hausboy
LNT--thank you for posting what I was thinking!  exactly exactly.


Thing is, my own personal preferences aren't that far off from here, as I am attracted only to transfolks who identify partly or wholly as male and who are comfortable with their maleness.  A transman would be within my parameters, as would someone who voluntarily chose to identify as a she-male who was comfortable with the male parts of her anatomy and wanted to keep them.  A transwoman would not be within my parameters for a personal partner, because I would not be able to be supportive of her need to fully transition.  I could be very supportive to her as a friend, but I would not date her.  I am not interested in dating women, and I respect her as a woman.  I do not see her as male even if she still has some male anatomy, because she doesn't see herself as male in any way.  So that means we're not compatible and she's not in my dating pool.

I don't see any issues with having personal sexual preferences or being attracted to what you are attracted to.  What I do see an issue with is not being respectful of the personal and sexual identities of transpeople, and with fetishizing them as sexual objects that are nothing more than tits and a dick for your personal enjoyment.  They're people, for fuck's sake, not just sex organs, so quit drooling and act like a human being if you ever want a nonprofessional relationship.   




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: IS there no Transdom or only Femdom Trans-fetishism? (3/27/2011 4:06:53 PM)

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quit drooling and act like a human being if you ever want a nonprofessional relationship.   


I <3 this.  May I add it to my collection of quotes?




PeonForHer -> RE: IS there no Transdom or only Femdom Trans-fetishism? (3/27/2011 5:29:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MistranssSadia

"...men who are into Transexual domination are basically gay/bi men with a deep sexual prefrence acceptance disorder, you are a trans, that´s a female image with a penis [etc, etc]


*Chuckle* Bollocks.

Psychology simply doesn't have the knowledge-status for any of its adherents to be able to make that kind of pronouncement. No offence to your friend, but she's a bit of a quack if she hasn't grasped that fundamental point about her own discipline. Or she's suffering from a 'self-quackery acceptance disorder' [;)].




hausboy -> RE: IS there no Transdom or only Femdom Trans-fetishism? (3/27/2011 6:05:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer

quote:

ORIGINAL: hausboy
LNT--thank you for posting what I was thinking!  exactly exactly.


Thing is, my own personal preferences aren't that far off from here, as I am attracted only to transfolks who identify partly or wholly as male and who are comfortable with their maleness.  A transman would be within my parameters, as would someone who voluntarily chose to identify as a she-male who was comfortable with the male parts of her anatomy and wanted to keep them.  A transwoman would not be within my parameters for a personal partner, because I would not be able to be supportive of her need to fully transition.  I could be very supportive to her as a friend, but I would not date her.  I am not interested in dating women, and I respect her as a woman.  I do not see her as male even if she still has some male anatomy, because she doesn't see herself as male in any way.  So that means we're not compatible and she's not in my dating pool.

I don't see any issues with having personal sexual preferences or being attracted to what you are attracted to.  What I do see an issue with is not being respectful of the personal and sexual identities of transpeople, and with fetishizing them as sexual objects that are nothing more than tits and a dick for your personal enjoyment.  They're people, for fuck's sake, not just sex organs, so quit drooling and act like a human being if you ever want a nonprofessional relationship.   



No, I totally get that.... and there are actually transwomen who choose not to have lower surgery for a variety of reasons, and they are still very much women to me.  I've also met some who had every surgery under the sun,  and they still exude so much male energy that I'm not attracted to them no matter how female their "parts" are/appearance is.

We all have preferences and types that attract us (at least, initial attraction)....but it's that completely fetishizing one as a wank object that turns me off, as you so eloquently put it. 




LadyNTrainer -> RE: IS there no Transdom or only Femdom Trans-fetishism? (3/28/2011 2:20:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

quote:

quit drooling and act like a human being if you ever want a nonprofessional relationship.   


I <3 this.  May I add it to my collection of quotes?


Certainly.  Though I expect you are equally skilled at expressing the sentiment in a pithy and easily understandable manner.




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