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Reposted from another forum dated 1/6/06 - 5/6/2006 12:19:55 AM

MsMacComb

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This was a reply of mine to a question about doing a book on proper ways of "doing" SM/BD (from OD forum). As there is a never ending debate on how to do profiles, attitudes, how to approach others, protocol etc ad nauseum, I figured it would be interesting to some (meaning those that dislike that aspect of some on this forum). By the way, most people at OD agreed, lol.
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I will now interject something that will totally piss some people off (it may be my only true gift in life, lol).
Dommes like kinky sex the same as subs do. This myth that one has to wait for days/months etc until a domme is ready for something to happen is kind of stupid. Suggesting something is NOT topping from the bottom (and my opinion on that is probably well known, its nonsense). Asking for some sort of sexual activity, offering alternatives and so forth is not some mortal sin. From what I can tell the only people that believe this way are those that would live at collarme.com of whom the majority havent had any form of sex (other than with themselves) for the better part of a decade anyway. All they do is sit around and keyboard pontificate about theory, protocol, symbolism, concepts, notions, practices and manners. Meanwhile the rest of the world is out getting busy, getting fucked or getting slapped around or off.
A list of rules that denote how and when a sub is allowed to do this and/or that kind of assures a boring existence, in my opinion. It reminds me of some aspects of government or corporate america. Have a meeting to discuss setting up a commitee to set a date for elections to establish the hierarchy who will then post a memo announcing future meetings where a quorum is required to proceed with the reading of the minutes of the previous meetings where not one single goddamn thing happened (collarme/ that dungeon crowd again, in my opinion).
Meanwhile some domme is burning up electricty/batteries faster than she can pay the bill.
A book that describes the 1000s of options, the concepts and practices behind kink/fetish is a great idea. Outlining step for step, detail for detail kills the spontaneity and is something that has already been done to death. I am not attacking anyone or anyones ideas per se. I am simply suggesting that if I had to live my sex life by someone elses "rules" (ie, when its time for the domme to say this, do that etc) I wouldnt even bother. Besides, theres a fine line between being a domme and a babysitter. I know of NO domme that wants to be *on* 24/7. Thats a myth and one that places undue expectation on her that she can not only never live up to, but also has no desire to (at least I dont).
Very well, enough rambling from me for today, lol

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RE: Reposted from another forum dated 1/6/06 - 5/6/2006 5:59:45 AM

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If I am reading this right, I believe you are speaking about some sort of implied protocol that some feel is necessary to follow, if a sub or slave is, er, uh, let's call it in need...lol. I think if they came right out and said "do me", that might be considered some sort of topping from the bottom. BUT generally, and this of course is only my own opinion and from my perspective, but a perceptive Dominant can read body language and or hints that their subservient one is "needing it". I guess what I am saying is that actions speak louder than words...in other words, if they are horny and act that way...I would certainly hope someone would pay attention and take care of that situation. Now..that is only if sex is a normal activity in that relationship..it's not in all situations, so if it's not...hmmm, don't know what to say there other than buy batteries...lol.

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RE: Reposted from another forum dated 1/6/06 - 5/6/2006 2:26:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: ScooterTrash

If I am reading this right, I believe you are speaking about some sort of implied protocol that some feel is necessary to follow, if a sub or slave is, er, uh, let's call it in need...lol. I think if they came right out and said "do me", that might be considered some sort of topping from the bottom. BUT generally, and this of course is only my own opinion and from my perspective, but a perceptive Dominant can read body language and or hints that their subservient one is "needing it". I guess what I am saying is that actions speak louder than words...in other words, if they are horny and act that way...I would certainly hope someone would pay attention and take care of that situation. Now..that is only if sex is a normal activity in that relationship..it's not in all situations, so if it's not...hmmm, don't know what to say there other than buy batteries...lol.

In part yes. In part I am also saying people should just not worry about it and go out and live their lives. I mean good God you only live once and life is short. Have fun with it and don't sweat the details.

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RE: Reposted from another forum dated 1/6/06 - 5/6/2006 4:25:47 PM

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Good post Lady. I have written extensively on the art of submissive seduction. What, IMO, subs/slaves fail to realize is that although they are on the bottom and obedient it does not leave them without their sultry whiles. I am with Scooter on body language, and would like to make a few points in addition. Most sub/slaves have great minds and once pointed in the right direction can absorb information and creatively apply this to servility. I am composing a book on Slavery based on fantasy erotica I write. Now the slavery practice that I write is drawn from a fantasy realm but has very practical applications in any M/s D/s setting. People often balk at fantasy, however we practice our fantasies ever time we scene. That said I would offer a few instances of sub/slave seduction;

Attire: Naked is all good, but clothing adds to the attraction. How you wear that clothing can at the seduction of your “D”. A master can glance over and see naked flesh, or struggle for a peek down an askew blouse, up skirt of a girl scrubbing the floor. Use a mirror if you must to learn how to make a peep show.

Body language: The eyes, pursed lips, the very position of the hands. In every move make yourself seductive. Sweeping can be a [passion dance, pulling of shoes can be a lap dance, in every way consider your movements.

Flowers: There is a broad subject on flowers and their meanings. I wont go into it here but you can find it with a search engine.

Fans: Yet another tool of seduction is the hand fan. Again you can find this with a search.

Posture and words: How you approach the “D” and what you say can be absolutely about seduction. If you are begging for sex your “D” will view at trying to top. Remember to seduce the mind. Saying “I have been horny all day.” Will most likely get you a “Good, lets keep it that way.” Where as; “I have been aching for your touch, caress, and embrace through the long day.” Will get you into a nice little fore play. Prostrate before the “D” clutching the feet, waist, hands and kissing them hungrily, will also help slide your “D” in to a sense of being so very wanted and lusted for with out feeling like you are toping, but needing them.

I invite all to add to.
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