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Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolution an... - 3/15/2011 11:56:45 PM

ChiDS

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For those of you who are not aware. The groups Anonymous and Anon, have been wreaking havoc throughout corporate America. Their current target being Bank of America. They are both a part of a group of independent people who wish to remain Anonymous as the name states. This group consists of every day Americans and some hackers. From my understanding the sub-group Anon are mainly hackers. They believe that the run around false investigations into the corruption of large corporations has gone on long enough. Obviously the municipalities are not concerned about the little guy on Main street as they are with protecting Wall street. So they have taken it upon themselves to hack into these corporations and banks so they can cut through the red tape and get right to the down and dirty so to speak. Check em out, lets hear your opinions.

Watch them first to last to get a little overview on what has been going on. The final one is the latest video release.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPGS-EY_fTQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI6Gc5TURnU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkxn73p_LSk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8f62FCJhKY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D6neBzTnOQ

If you want the website where they are currently releasing part 1 of 2 on Bank of America. Go to www.bankofamericasuck.com

This is the first real actions of the non-violent American revolution. Let the political debate begin!

PS Thank god for the 1st amendment otherwise I would more than likely be in jail just for saying what I have just said.

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 12:49:25 AM

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You really should take a look at some previous posts by RealOne and a few others. You are caught up in it. Get your mind stilled up boy and thnk.

Turn the TV off (that means youtube). Get into reality. Alex Jones puts as much spin on his shit as the major media, and forget the subsequent videos, I don't watch TV. Alex is right about a whole lot, I know what's going on, probably more than Alex. But I am fifty years old and I have come to a conclusion - work for the solution. All the rest of it is whining.

The vultures on this forum will come for you, suggest you need medication, or possibly a strait jacket. Don't listen to them. But do listen to me, been there done that. The fact is some of us know the problem. What we lack is a solution. Got one ?

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 1:07:01 AM

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Well if you know. Then you know what happens if this doesn't happen. So perhaps all of you who have been here and have done this. Should have our backs for once so it doesn't end like it did for you. The difference between then and now is that now things are actually going to hell. People are listening now. People are looking for answers. I'm not promoting Alex Jones and never have claimed to. I agree with many of his points and the overall picture. I use the infowars site, only as a tool for information that I then go and research myself. But personally I think things are only going to be able to be solved at the state and local level. I also believe Anon, in exposing these crooks is also doing a huge justice that could not be done in your time. We have a new weapon, the internet. Look at these countries all over the world throwing off dictators, fighting the banksters. It's either change the way we think or lose our freedom. Its not a choice, its a duty. I served this country in the armed forces. I love it and would gladly lay down my life to protect it. I believe non-violent protest can and will bring REAL change. I am also not a tea party member nor in any way affiliated with any party. I represent only myself and my own opinion.

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 1:38:27 AM

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Did I hear a request for dirt? I have plenty of dirt free of charge! :)

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B1Qts5lTn5ISZTg3YjBhMDgtZGIyNC00YzZmLWFkYTAtMzcxMzY0Y2QzYTE0&hl=en

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B1Qts5lTn5ISYjYyNmM0OGYtNzYzMi00ZjVkLThlNWQtODkyNzg2YmVkOWE5&hl=en

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtHCIXVb_eo

I'm surprised this guy is still alive

plenty more dirt where that came from!

the people need to personally do a full scale investigation of every nook and cranny, especially their double entry book keeping and off record accounting schemes they are using to hide money and EVADE TAXES!

you heard me right! EVADE TAXES

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 1:52:02 AM

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the people need to personally do a full scale investigation of every nook and cranny, especially their double entry book keeping and off record accounting schemes they are using to hide money and EVADE TAXES!

you heard me right! EVADE TAXES

I couldn't agree with you more. Why would we want to pay taxes which are just going to pay off the money we have been loaned from the Federal Reserve (which is not federal at all). The Federal Reserve creates this money out of thin air and loans it to our country at interest. Hence the debt that can NEVER be paid off. Because if it was paid off there would be not one dollar in circulation. For money itself is debt. The only thing that gives money value is the money that came before it. So the more you print the less its worth. Thus explaining in general terms, inflation.

If you listen to what the Fed suggests as our course of action for fixing the problem. They suggest we fix inflation with more inflation. In paying taxes your only paying the Fed which is keeping you broke. Ahhhh the irony that the one institution that supposed to keep our economy safe, established in 1913, is the one dragging it down. The last debt free currency we had was the Greenback.

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 3:14:07 AM

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Greenbacks weren't debt free. The only difference is that they would pay them off in lawful money, just like silver certificates and such. In that way they were better than the notes of today.

You have a long way to go, as do most around here. I'll put out this one statement so you understnd it, or try - Anything is worth what people think it is worth.

Concentrate more on them taking your rights, to assemble, to speech, to overthrow. Then you see how commerce comes into it by way of license. This is crucial, and once you get to understand that fully, then comes the motherload. We could break them as easily as clipping our fucking toenails if we had one iota of balls and some solidarity. But it's dog eat dog, and everything is up for grabs. The freedom fighters are power mongers now, and the heroes, though saints, are pur poison. Everything is turned upside down, but with some thought you can see how it is and navigate.

Psychology and marketing. About sixty years ago a Man named Emmet Hill was lynched down south. He was "uppity", whistled at a White Woman. They wrapped his body up in chain and threw it in the river. It was found and at the inquest the coroner said "Open and shuit cae your honor N_____ stole more chain than he could swin with". The guy is fucking dead, and nobody said a word. And nobody to my knowledge other than I and few others even knew about it until about ten years ago. My Father was there.

Play to the crowd. That's what people don't understand, and is why the manipulators always seem to have the upper hand. What group is this ? CM is a group of kinksters, as such you will find the cross section of humanity, save a few absences which we generally appreciate. What did you expect ? Does the URL say www.we hate the government dot com ? No.

Now consider the audience. Git up with your Magna Carta and all this, the Code of Hamurabi for all I care, none of it matters. Even US law, no matter how sacred, doesn't matter. You are not going to beat them in the courts without years of EFFECTIVE study, which noone on this site has. That means RealOne too. None of you have been in half the courtrooms I have and I still don't consider myself anywhere near an expert. I use lawyers, but let's just say I don't get them out of the yellow pages.

Forget widespreading the word for now. Those schills got you doing that. Stop, it's waste of your time. Spend it better by thinking how to REALLY make a chnge. They have an Achille's heel, we have the stone. If you know that, you know how to win. Until then they just lead you around by the nose. Yes, I do agree with Alex on quite a few things, but that doesn't change the fact that he is an asshole.

T^T

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 3:34:46 AM

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Actually they were debt free.

Lincoln agreed to try this solution and printed 450 million dollars worth of the new bills using green ink on the back to distinguish them from other notes. "The government should create, issue and circulate all the currency and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the government and the buying power of consumers..... The privilege of creating and issuing money is not only the supreme prerogative of Government, but it is the Government's greatest creative opportunity. By the adoption of these principles, the long-felt want for a uniform medium will be satisfied. The taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest, discounts and exchanges. The financing of all public enterprises, the maintenance of stable government and ordered progress, and the conduct of the Treasury will become matters of practical administration. The people can and will be furnished with a currency as safe as their own government. Money will cease to be the master and become the servant of humanity. Democracy will rise superior to the money power."
Abraham Lincoln 3 From this we see that the solution worked so well Lincoln was seriously considering adopting this emergency measure as a permanent policy. This would have been great for everyone except the money changers who quickly realised how dangerous this policy would be for them. They wasted no time in expressing their view in the London Times. Oddly enough, while the article seems to have been designed to discourage this creative financial policy, in its put down we're clearly able to see the policies goodness. "If this mischievous financial policy, which has its origin in North America, shall become endurated down to a fixture, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous without precedent in the history of the world. The brains, and wealth of all countries will go to North America. That country must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe."

and here's the link. http://www.xat.org/xat/usury.html

If you would stop worrying so much about my age perhaps you would realize I have done a lot of research about the things I know to be true. But other than that I both agree and disagree with you. I think overall your correct. But I also believe spreading the word and reigniting the flame of liberty in the hearts of our fellow Americans will ultimately lead to victory for free humanity.

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 3:36:54 AM

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I guess the group Anonymous is a small number of young people. With unemployment very high among 18 to 26 years olds, and not much to do, some political activity emerges. It seems a combination of Wikileaks and Egypt social media type opposition to status quo. I think their actions will be small terrorism type disruptions and attention grabbing rather than making much difference. Vast majority of Americans still believes in government and electoral process. The last is funny considering the facts, but this is how things are: people are sheeple.

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 3:39:47 AM

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I guess the group Anonymous is a small number of young people. With unemployment very high among 18 to 26 years olds, and not much to do, some political activity emerges. It seems a combination of Wikileaks and Egypt social media type opposition to status quo. I think their actions will be small terrorism type disruptions and attention grabbing rather than making much difference. Vast majority of Americans still believes in government and electoral process. The last is funny considering the facts, but this is how things are: people are sheeple.

Actually Anon is walking their talk. Plus they have really just begun and they have already forced CEO's to retire and now have their sights set on BoA.Just follow my links and do a little of your own digging and you'll see they actually are making these corporate giants shake in their boots. They are people finally working outside the law that has protected these crooks for so long.

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 3:39:52 AM

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Here's one forya. Find me a country with no debt.

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 3:42:53 AM

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Here's one for you then. Find me a country without a central bank and ill show you a country with no debt. Debt is money and money is debt. It's all one in the same. If there was no debt, there would be no money. At least this is true in the current economic system of fractional reserve banking. The only countries that don't have central banks still use currency issued by a central bank so your really gunna have to dig if you wanna find one.

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 3:54:10 AM

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T, you are perfectly correct anything is only worth what a person is prepared to pay for it, that being the indicated price is just bullshit and only there for those that have been well trained to comply. In financial transactions, we used to deal with the art of bargaining, what happened, where did it go, oh, it is still there with higher finance, but not there it seems for lower finance because we have been trained to accept what we are told, the price is what it says it is. This also goes for other areas of life too, we must it seems accept what we are told, without question, for we are just consumers, consumers of goods and consumers of information. In business, there is nothing quite like a captive market, perhaps that financial model has extended it's creepers into other areas of our lives.

I don't read newspapers, besides the fact that they are a waste of trees, they are also another persons viewpoint we have paid to accept, and the tv, I only hear in passing as background noise, anything that piques my interest, then I may research that interest elsewhere and that is the beauty of the internet, the ability to cross reference from many sources. Headlines are enough for me, I don't need the nitty gritty, other persons opinion, just the facts that something has happened so I may create my own opinion, if it is an opinion is needed.

But too much information leads to information overload and that is another ploy exhibited by those who wish to control, too much information can obfuscate the topic, lose it in a sea of information, the users know full well many have not the patience to verify for themselves.

Our modern world, in fact, our world is a world of information, information is flowing at us every day from every conceivable source, as consumers we are flooded with it and that is our failing as through the flood, we fail to notice the streams.

If one wants to have at least a chance of seeing the streams and brooks, turn off the opinionated information and seek for thyself, and here enter what others refer to as conspiracy theorists.

I am personally loaded with conspiracy theories, but many I keep to myself, as my understanding, and as to conspiracy, what does that suggest a nut job, or a person who seeks for themselves. But, in the sea of information anyone that can pick out a stream in the flood, because others cannot see it, they are labeled a nut.

But one has to understand what for them personally life is all about, are we here in a fair world where everyone wants to help us and be nice, or are we in a world where others vie constantly for control of us and with that, we have to ask ourselves, how we should approach life.

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 4:01:49 AM

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Actually its even worse than that Aneirin, with the removal of the Glass-Steagall Act. Now Wall street can create fake demand to raise prices because they can place bids on things such as oil and they don't even have to honor them. So now its not the price just being the price but now they can raise that price whenever they want just by creating a false demand for the product.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Act

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 4:20:13 AM

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Ain't that what's been going on for the last ten twenty years ?

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 4:24:21 AM

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Correct, it was repealed in 99'

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 4:38:15 AM

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There is a lot to be said about being an individual in this world and with that looking to one's own means to live life. Many privately and publicly seek the simpler life, the cabin in the mountains like Grizzly Adams, or a life as best they can nearer to civilisation, why do they seek this, what knowledge have they got to force a break from all that they have come to know.

Stocks, shares and all that crap, we have been trained to accept as life, but what it is, is gambling on the iivelihoods of people, such gambling only exists to affect people like ourselves, we are to all intents and purposes fucking each other over, fucking ourselves, our own level of society over, for those at the top will always remain unaffected, yet they always make money on us.

Sometimes, in fact much of the time I believe Pahunk and others like him to be correct in their approach, for they have seen the society we have become, they collect material wealth, not promissory notes or bits of paper, if anything the recent financial collapse should have educated the majority, but no, we are back at it assured it is all under control (like the last time), and we gulibly buy into the financial disaster that will come again, for greedy bastards will always remain greedy bastards and they will fuck us again and again and again, and why do they fuck us, because they can we are well trained.

Paper finance, we should avoid it like the plague it is, deal with real terms, real materials that offer real reward.

But of all the monetary systems we have world wide, is any of it worth it's face value, the answer to that is no, for all our coinage has now become yet more promissory notes. The old silver dollars Pahunk collects contain real silver, the earlier ones more silver than the later for even then, late sixties the scam had started the coinage was devalued.

Here in the UK we lost the value of our coinage long ago for the silver coloured pieces, my last silver coin, a shilling being 1922, but we continued with copper that was until a few years ago, the mint started changing our copper coins into copper coloured, copper coloured coins that can be picked up with a magnet and they rust, and rust quickly, so hardly a move to make more resilient coinage, no, they are claiming back the copper, because copper is set to become a very expensive metal soon due to the world demand for copper, the Chinese being the biggest hunters of the metal.

So, before I change up my accumulated mass of copper coinage, i run a magnet over it first, and they only get back what sticks to the magnet, but if one knows their metals, one can see the fake copper coins without the use of a magnet, rust is a dead giveaway.

Way back, heard of Trade Silver, the stuff the mountain men used to use, well maybe we would be best going back to trading in real terms with real materials for real returns, not promissory notes and paper than can and will be dishonoured.

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 5:03:38 AM

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Why use currency at all? Watch Zietgeist moving forward and then the other 2 of that series. There's a better way all together. By no means perfect, but it's a lot better than what we have now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWTIWqvYRu0&playnext=1&list=PLDF3B361639388D7A

First half of the movie points out what is wrong with society and the second half suggests their possible solutions.

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 5:04:26 AM

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Correct, it was repealed in 99'

And who was president then and why did they repeal G/S?

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 5:21:44 AM

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Correct, it was repealed in 99'

And who was president then and why did they repeal G/S?

Clinton, and I already posted the link with all that information. If you follow the link it shows both sides of the argument.

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RE: Who is ANONYMOUS and what is their goal. Revolutio... - 3/16/2011 6:10:59 PM

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Jaysus. Use the search feature and you'll see that this topic's been absolutely beaten flat. 'Tain't nuthing left of the horse but a few pieces of hair floating about.

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