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cuckoldmepls -> What Spending and Deficits Do (3/16/2011 1:55:09 PM)
Some of you may be reluctant to visit this site, since it has the word 'free man' in it, which democrats want you to be free, but only as long as you are disarmed, and they can control every aspect of your life, so for you I'll translate. Deficit spending creates an Illusionary economy that only gets us in deeper and deeper. It doesn't even make sense to believe you can spend your way to prosperity when you are already in debt. To be honest, the only agenda Obama had right from the beginning was to spend more and more money, find new sources of revenue to keep the illusionary economy going, and then let some other President and Congress deal with the consequences 10 or 20 years later. If you will do the math. We've increased the national debt by $4 trillon in 2.5 years. At that rate we will be 26 to 30 trillion in debt in 10 years. It was $10 trillion when Obama took over, now it's $14 trillion. In fact, I have an article somewhere that proves Obama's spending has cost us more than the entire 8 years of the Iraq war. http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/what-spending-and-deficits-do/

DCWoody -> RE: What Spending and Deficits Do (3/16/2011 2:02:52 PM)
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ChiDS -> RE: What Spending and Deficits Do (3/16/2011 2:25:29 PM)
Sure, I agree, just watch the Obama Deception, or Zeitgeist. Both can be viewed for free on youtube just search term the name of the documentary. The 1st will point out exactly what Obama has done for our economy and then some. The 2nd explains perfectly how the economy works and how the only thing that can come of the fractional reserve banking system we live under, is more debt.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: What Spending and Deficits Do (3/16/2011 2:32:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DCWoody \ [image]local://upfiles/347591/A38C73317543454594F7AC684A152F8D.jpg[/image] Please photoshop and repost with OP changed to Post 3

DCWoody -> RE: What Spending and Deficits Do (3/16/2011 3:06:06 PM)
Don't have photoshop, could try MSPaint

Lucylastic -> RE: What Spending and Deficits Do (3/16/2011 3:23:45 PM)
I see a proliferation of that graphic changed to cover a lot of subjects however, do it yaself willbur..what a lazy ass.

DCWoody -> RE: What Spending and Deficits Do (3/16/2011 3:24:57 PM)
I kinda like to think that version can be applied to most subjects.

Lucylastic -> RE: What Spending and Deficits Do (3/16/2011 3:38:39 PM)
Most of the posters on this section of the board too. at one time or another[;)]

rulemylife -> RE: What Spending and Deficits Do (3/16/2011 8:39:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls Some of you may be reluctant to visit this site, since it has the word 'free man' in it, which democrats want you to be free, but only as long as you are disarmed, and they can control every aspect of your life, so for you I'll translate. Deficit spending creates an Illusionary economy that only gets us in deeper and deeper. Let me help you translate. Conservatives had absolutely no problem with deficit spending when Reagan and Dubya were doing it. Do Deficits Matter? \| The Weekly Standard WHEN DICK CHENEY SAID, "Deficits don't matter," economists took that as proof of the economic illiteracy of the Bush administration. But it turns out there is a case to be made that Cheney was onto something. On the deepest level, the vice president was echoing, in slightly exaggerated form, an idea put forward a few years ago by Irving Kristol, the Godfather of the neoconservatives who have had such a wide-ranging effect on Bush administration policy. Kristol wrote then, and still believes, that "We should figure out what we want before we calculate what we can afford, not the reverse."

thishereboi -> RE: What Spending and Deficits Do (3/16/2011 9:35:22 PM)
quote: Some of you may be reluctant to visit this site, since it has the word 'free man' in it, Actually it has more to do with the fact that you posted the link. [8\|]

Fellow -> RE: What Spending and Deficits Do (3/16/2011 10:10:59 PM)
I am fiscal conservative and I sympathize with people who are worried about government spending and deficits. However, the large corporation (USA) is complicated system and in order to make positive change complicated complex solutions are needed. It is easy to say:"just stop all deficit spending". The consequences of such action would be deadly and devastating. A recent news story claimed one out of three Americans get their income from the government. Some estimate as much as 70% of all businesses are dependent on government directly or through contracts, subsidies etc. USA is not a free market capitalist system. In order to change it drastically, there must be a total structural makeover. The last is, of course, in practice impossible as the system is built to protect status quo and the economy is always political. So, suck it up and prepare for revolution. It could take decades before things get so ugly that people can not take it any more, as well as the government can not continue old ways.

ChiDS -> RE: What Spending and Deficits Do (3/16/2011 10:33:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fellow I am fiscal conservative and I sympathize with people who are worried about government spending and deficits. However, the large corporation (USA) is complicated system and in order to make positive change complicated complex solutions are needed. It is easy to say:"just stop all deficit spending". The consequences of such action would be deadly and devastating. A recent news story claimed one out of three Americans get their income from the government. Some estimate as much as 70% of all businesses are dependent on government directly or through contracts, subsidies etc. USA is not a free market capitalist system. In order to change it drastically, there must be a total structural makeover. The last is, of course, in practice impossible as the system is built to protect status quo and the economy is always political. So, suck it up and prepare for revolution. It could take decades before things get so ugly that people can not take it any more, as well as the government can not continue old ways. Tariffs could solve the problems. Most of them in fact. Free market has failed. We need to get over it and move on. But overall I think abolishing any sort of monetary system would be the best course of action.

Termyn8or -> RE: What Spending and Deficits Do (3/16/2011 11:44:16 PM)
"abolishing any sort of monetary system would be the best course of action." People wouldn't be able to live with that. I would love anarchy as well, but we can't have that either. Get the world population down to about one billion and it might be worth a shot. T^T

ChiDS -> RE: What Spending and Deficits Do (3/16/2011 11:59:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or "abolishing any sort of monetary system would be the best course of action." People wouldn't be able to live with that. I would love anarchy as well, but we can't have that either. Get the world population down to about one billion and it might be worth a shot. T^T So your a eugenicist? I mean how else would you propose to lower the population? Kill them, poison them, euthanize them, and sterilize them. The Nazis thought that, that was the way to go as well. I don't think anyone needs to die in order for change. People could live with it if they were educated on it and shown how that kind of life would be and allowed a chance to decide for themselves. Every great change in history starts with an idea. But to just dismiss an idea all together as impossible, because you deem it out of the norm, is a sin.

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