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ChiDS -> Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/19/2011 12:53:37 PM)

Ron Paul
LewRockwell.com
March 18, 2011
Before the US House of Representatives Committee on Financial Services Monetary Policy and Rising Prices, March 17, 2011

There is perhaps no topic as important to the average American today as rising prices. Whether we consider food, gasoline, or clothing, the cost of living is increasing significantly. At a time of high unemployment, rising prices trap American families between a rock and a hard place. While rising prices colloquially are referred to as “inflation,” true inflation is defined as an increase in the money supply, and all other things being equal, an increase in the money supply leads to a rise in prices. Inflation is and always has been throughout history a monetary phenomenon, and its destructive effects have ruined societies from the Roman Empire to Weimar Germany to modern-day Zimbabwe.

Blame for the most recent round of price increases has been laid at the feet of the Federal Reserve’s program of quantitative easing, and rightly so in my opinion. This program, known as QE2, sought to purchase a total of $900 billion in US Treasury debt over a period of 8 months. Roughly $110 billion of newly created money is flooding into markets each month, markets which still have not fully recovered from the financial crisis of the last few years. Banks still hold billions of dollars in underperforming mortgage-backed securities on their books, securities which would render numerous major banks insolvent if they were “marked to market.” These nervous banks are hesitant to loan out further money, instead holding well over a trillion dollars on reserve with the Fed. Is it any wonder, then, that the Fed’s new hot money is flowing into commodity markets?

The price of cotton is up more than 170% over the past year, oil is up over 40%, and many categories of food staples are seeing double-digit price growth. This means that food, clothing, and gasoline will become increasingly expensive over the coming year. American families, many of whom already live paycheck to paycheck, increasingly will be forced by these rising prices into unwilling tradeoffs. Rising prices lead to consumers purchasing ground beef rather than steak, drinking water rather than milk, and choosing canned vegetables over fresh. Clothes are worn until they are threadbare, in order to conserve money that keeps food on the table and pays the heating bill. While some might argue that this new frugality is a good thing, frugality is virtuous only when it results from free choice, not when it is forced upon the citizenry by the Fed’s ruinous monetary policy.

While the Fed takes credit for the increase in the stock markets, it claims no responsibility for the increases in food and commodity prices. Even most economists fail to understand that inflation is at root a monetary phenomenon. As the supply of money increases, more money chases the same amount of goods, and prices rise. There may be other factors that contribute to price rises, such as famine, flooding, or global unrest, but these effects on prices are always short-term, not long-term. Consistently citing rising demand, bad weather, or energy supply uncertainty while never acknowledging the effects of monetary policy is a cop-out. Governments throughout history have sought to blame price increases on bad weather, speculators, and a whole host of other factors, rather than acknowledging the effects of their inflationary monetary policies. Indeed, tyrants of many stripes have debased their nations’ currencies while denying responsibility for the suffering that results.

The unelected policymakers at the Fed are also the last to feel the effects of inflation, in fact, they benefit from it, as does the government as a whole. Inflation results in a rise in prices, but those who receive this new money first, such as government employees, contractors, and bankers are able to use it before prices begin to increase, while those further down the totem pole suffer price increases before they see any of this new money. By reducing the purchasing power of the dollar, the Fed’s monetary policy also harms savers, encouraging reckless indebtedness and a more present-oriented pattern of consumption. Hard work and thrift are punished, so economic actors naturally respond by spending more, borrowing more, and saving less. After all, why save rapidly depreciating dollars?

We must also remember that those policymakers who exercise the most power over the economy are also the least likely to understand the effects of their policies. Chairman Bernanke and other members of the Federal Open Market Committee were convinced in mid-2008 that the economy would rebound and continue to grow through 2009, even though it was clear to many observers that we were in the midst of a severe economic crisis. Chairman Greenspan before him was known for downplaying the importance of the growing housing bubble, even while it was reaching its zenith. It remains impossible for even the brilliant minds at the Fed to achieve both the depth and breadth of knowledge necessary to enable centralized economic planning. As Friedrich von Hayek stated in his Nobel Prize address:

“The recognition of the insuperable limits to his knowledge ought indeed to teach the student of society a lesson of humility which should guard him against becoming an accomplice in men’s fatal striving to control society – a striving which makes him not only a tyrant over his fellows, but which may well make him the destroyer of a civilization which no brain has designed but which has grown from the free efforts of millions of individuals.”

My personal opinion:  Well said sir. Well said.




Musicmystery -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/19/2011 8:26:14 PM)

MV = PQ

All things aren't equal--V is down (that's what a recession is), and that's why inflation is so low.

You are also confusing aggregate price level with individual prices. Fuel is way up, affecting transportation and agriculture costs, for example, but housing is way down.

A number of other factors enter too--with a flat stock market, speculators have turned to commodities seeking better returns, driving up future's contracts.

Life just ain't as simplistic as Mr. Libertarian wants to paint it. In fact, historically, nations without strong, independent central banks have had higher inflation.

So not well said at all.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/19/2011 8:37:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

MV = PQ

All things aren't equal--V is down (that's what a recession is), and that's why inflation is so low.

You are also confusing aggregate price level with individual prices. Fuel is way up, affecting transportation and agriculture costs, for example, but housing is way down.

A number of other factors enter too--with a flat stock market, speculators have turned to commodities seeking better returns, driving up future's contracts.

Life just ain't as simplistic as Mr. Libertarian wants to paint it. In fact, historically, nations without strong, independent central banks have had higher inflation.

So not well said at all.



Totally wrong, MM. Life just aint as simplistic as Mr. Anarcho-capitalist wants to paint it. Other than that, we've been through this with at least half a dozen other Chids clones. Don't bother butting your head against that wall again!




Edwynn -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/19/2011 10:09:14 PM)




quote:

While the Fed takes credit for the increase in the stock markets, it claims no responsibility for the increases in food and commodity prices.



I've never heard of the Fed taking credit for any increase in the stock markets. I've never heard of them openly taking responsibility for anything, come to think of it. That's not their job.

The Fed existing as in service to bankers. Oh my. Good thing that our entire congress has a full staff of smart people to keep up with just how and just when to grab ankles when the corporations walk in the door, and while we're at it, fight the Fed.

The man is a hero, no question.












Fellow -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/19/2011 11:00:31 PM)

There are bad things happening like price increases.  I do not believe the Federal Reserve acts on its own. Important decisions (like QE2) are surely coordinated and approved by Obama administration. At this point there are really no evil intentions. The US government is financially in death trap. Fed actions are directed to keep interest rate low. As soon as the rates go up the government will have difficulties servicing the debt. Inflating the currency is not uncommon in crisis. Debt default could be very difficult politically.




Termyn8or -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/19/2011 11:02:58 PM)

Debt default WILL be very difficult period.

T^T




EternalHoH -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/20/2011 3:26:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Fellow

I do not believe the Federal Reserve acts on its own.




That has to be about as rare as a corporation that works for society, rather than works for their shareholders.




Musicmystery -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/20/2011 7:46:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Debt default WILL be very difficult period.

T^T

Debt default ain't gonna happen period.

There's a difference between spending more than the Treasury takes in (and we DID spend a few decades cutting revenue), and a country defaulting. We're one fifth of the world's economy--$15 trillion of the world's $60 billion, three times even China.

We have money and resources. We just don't like to admit it.

Default would crash the world economy. Not gonna happen.




pahunkboy -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/20/2011 7:53:22 AM)

Inflation-  is a currency devaluation. Your currency is worth less-  each day that goes by- your currency is worth even less.

and when there is phony gains- it must be taxed- so again-  this robs you of something that is yours.




Musicmystery -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/20/2011 8:00:51 AM)

Obviously. But that's not in question here.

Nor are all price increases inflation--remember supply and demand?




pahunkboy -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/20/2011 9:33:53 AM)

A silver dime will STILL buy a chocolate bar- that it did when we were kids. 




outhere69 -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/20/2011 12:07:46 PM)

Have you tried that lately?




Edwynn -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/20/2011 12:14:41 PM)




quote:

ORIGINAL: Fellow

There are bad things happening like price increases.  I do not believe the Federal Reserve acts on its own. Important decisions (like QE2) are surely coordinated and approved by Obama administration. At this point there are really no evil intentions. The US government is financially in death trap. Fed actions are directed to keep interest rate low. As soon as the rates go up the government will have difficulties servicing the debt. Inflating the currency is not uncommon in crisis. Debt default could be very difficult politically.



According to the Fed conspiracy promulgators, it's the other way round, i.e. the Fed dictating policy to whatever administration. In any case, I've heard this before, that a registered Republican Fed chief appointed by a Republican president is now bowing down to a Democratic president and acting solely in accordance with his wishes, entirely contrary to the congressional mandates concerning the Fed and their actions, either congressional or presidential finger poking not allowed regarding everyday policy and decisions, aside from changing the mandates by congressional action or the president choosing to not renew the current chief's term, as Reagan did in showing his gratitude for Volker in his performance of the very ugly task of dealing with stagflation by dumping him when the job was done and replacing him with the deregulation-minded Greenspan. ("thanks for cleaning up that mess, Paul, now you got it all clean for me to make another mess! buh-bye!).


As to the difficulty in paying the debt ...

The reduction of taxes to the wealthiest strata and then voting to retain those goodies to those least in need while in the throes of an economic crisis has nothing to do with it, right? Of course not. All this focus on the Fed is serving some purpose after all, then.

Everybody knows all about Bernanke (except they actually don't), but yet know nothing about Micheal Taylor, the guy responsible for legalization of genetically modified everything, and the guy who essentially wrote the recent "food safety" law that in original form would have outlawed organic farming and farmers' markets, saved only by the heroic efforts of a couple of congress people to strike that clause out.


Indeed, let's keep all attention on the Fed, good way to keep everybody's eyes off the FDA, the USDA, etc., and the barn door size open policy to Monsanto or  G.D. Searle, etc. to the highest positions in those agencies anytime they like.


OTOH, I find myself not at all far from the sentiments you express.  All I'm saying here is, name any important government agency that is NOT infiltrated by corporate puppets.


The financial industry has the largest and most well funded lobby in Washington, even more so than arms manufacturers. That is saying something. If the Fed were as all-powerful as some claim, that lobby would be one huge billion dollar redundancy. I think the financial folks have a better grasp of things than to avoid such a low ROI on that venture, if we go by the assumptions inherent among the all-Fed-focused crowd.


Does the Fed have complicity in all this? Sure they do. All I am presenting here is that their actions do not supercede in magnitude those of congress passing corporately written or mandated laws or corporately staffed directors of numerous government agencies in their contribution to what we are dealing with now on an everyday basis.
















pahunkboy -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/20/2011 12:51:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: outhere69

Have you tried that lately?


1946-1964 Roosevelt Dime$0.10$2.5521




Termyn8or -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/20/2011 5:51:32 PM)

"Debt default ain't gonna happen period."

Neither is an eight shot game of cricket, bowling 300, being trumptight in the first book in spades and color TV.

T^T




Termyn8or -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/20/2011 5:55:33 PM)

"Have you tried that lately...."

You could :

"Buying Pre 64 Silver Coins at 23 x face value
Paying over spot on Silver Eagles

Jewelry & Coin Exchange
7273 Pearl Rd. (Corner of Bagley & Pearl next to CVS)
Middleburg Heights, OH 44130
440-239-1824 "

I think $2.30 would do it.

T^T




Termyn8or -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/20/2011 6:15:53 PM)

"Indeed, let's keep all attention on the Fed, good way to keep everybody's eyes off the FDA, the USDA, etc., and the barn door size open policy to Monsanto or  G.D. Searle, etc. to the highest positions in those agencies anytime they like."

Yes indeed. In fact that has taken all the fun out of freedom fighting. The fact that the "movement" seems to be full of schills. How much of this is actually distraction ?  There are facts. There are facts about the Constitution and I think many are valid. This, that, ratified or not. What does it matter when the document is not enforced ? Tax schemes and all that when tax revenue would never make us or break us at this point. What is going to happen will happen.

Default may not be imminent, but it is inevitable. Those who see credit as wealth may sustain the game for a long time, and really why not ? Default on ten trillion, why not default on a quadrillion ? At least we got more. It's just sticking it to the rest of the world and war or not, our military might will protect us from actually suffering any sort of repo or foreclosure. It ain't just the government that will keep that from happening. This country has gone into "bankruptcy" anyway, and you didn't see them rolling the desks out of public buildings or coming for your topsoil. But the fact is that it will have a profound effect on our lives, or those of our descendants. It could be a long time, but it is inevitable unless one thing happens.

How many guesses do you want ? And it isn't just a balanced budget, it is beyond that. It will not be done so now it's a game of time. How much junk can we get before we can't get any more ?

That is really the bottom line.

T^T




pahunkboy -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/21/2011 7:35:47 AM)



? Default on ten trillion, why not default on a quadrillion ?/ snip

Bingo! 




rulemylife -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/21/2011 8:14:00 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Inflation-  is a currency devaluation. Your currency is worth less-  each day that goes by- your currency is worth even less.

and when there is phony gains- it must be taxed- so again-  this robs you of something that is yours.



Hoard aluminum.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Our Enemy, the Fed by Ron Paul (3/22/2011 9:10:51 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: outhere69

Have you tried that lately?


1946-1964 Roosevelt Dime$0.10$2.5521



And a dime invested in the S&P 500 and held till now would be worth about $6.00, so whats your point?




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