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Shoud councils interfere in regards to how relatives wo... - 3/21/2011 7:23:56 AM

Phoenixpower

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A while ago it came here in the news that the council demanded to remove many of the decorations at this graveyard. Do you think that makes sense or do you think they should leave the relatives alone and let them do what they would like to do in that respect?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1352498/Essex-Council-bans-ornaments-Cemeteries-Poundland-graves-go.html

Now, I have to say I have never seen such as decorated graveyard before and do understand a bit the expectation to stay within reasons...but then again...within reasons has a huge variety of different definitions i suppose.

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RE: Shoud councils interfere in regards to how relative... - 3/21/2011 7:38:30 AM

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YES. It looks like a flea market and could easily be a dump.. for trash.

In my area- the cemetery removed such items. There is guidelines - and the burials in this locale would never get to the point as in the pictures.

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RE: Shoud councils interfere in regards to how relative... - 3/21/2011 8:12:38 AM

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Neither at home but there we are anyway quite....strict, at home you cant even have the ashes at home legally as you can do so over here, by now this option is only possible if you ship your deceased person to the netherlands who then are able to give the ashes to you...so sort of behind the back of councils.

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RE: Shoud councils interfere in regards to how relative... - 3/21/2011 8:49:00 AM

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Do you think that makes sense or do you think they should leave the relatives alone and let them do what they would like to do in that respect?

The problem I see here is that this cemetery isnt just for one, or a few, pets, or people. One person may feel they have a right to bring in such ornamentation. Another may feel they simply want the peace and quiet associated with such a place.

Imagine it this way. You go to a cemetery to visit a loved one, and you hear from the plot beside you the universal clown theme playing. Would it matter to you that the dog buried beside your beloved pet was once a part of a clown act?

All those wind chimes alone would give me a headache and make me resent being forced to listen to them when all I want to do is visit my pet.

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RE: Shoud councils interfere in regards to how relative... - 3/21/2011 10:20:26 AM

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The boneyard behind my house has solar powered lights on the graves, but the only graves that seem to be festooned with shite are the children's graves. But what is a graveyard other than a place to bury the dead ?

My old granny is buried in there, she told us when she was living she did not want anyone tending her grave, as she wouldn't be there, I don't know if it is part of the belief or not, but she was a spiritualist.

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RE: Shoud councils interfere in regards to how relative... - 3/21/2011 1:13:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin
My old granny is buried in there, she told us when she was living she did not want anyone tending her grave, as she wouldn't be there, I don't know if it is part of the belief or not, but she was a spiritualist.

Reminds me on a comment in one of those psychic shows where it was claimed that the spirit let known the left behind one that s/he doesnt need to feel guilty about having troubles to attending the grave, as s/he had problems with graveyars in general, and seems to have said that s/he ain't there...sort of why should s/he be there in the first place...which actually makes sense...as a kid I often passed the graveyard on my way to school (not on my way but when I picked up a friend at times then we passed the graveyard) and I like graveyards as such. But I agree that this is a bit much. I think if I would have lost a child in an age where I am able to bury it and would want to do so much (which I doubt to go over the top, but then again, we can behave very different in when in grief) I would burry him/her at home if it would be possible in the country where I would be in (I mean the ashes) and decorate it there in the garden or in the house if I would not have a garden, or use a place more away from the public eye.

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RE: Shoud councils interfere in regards to how relative... - 3/22/2011 7:52:39 AM

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My pa has left us instruction to bury him at sea when he croaks, it is all already paid for and permissions granted, but I just hope he doesn't expect me to put the last stitch through his nose.

But re. the , well, what I call shite on graves, what happens here, I suspect no one minds given they are child graves and in the end, who does it bother, certainly not those that reside there I expect. But in some countries graveyards are a happy place, where celebrations are held around the graves, the belief being, well someone's dead, but they are not forgotten, so why not let their 'essence' join in with the celebration. What I believe might be happening in the UK, well, the dreaded ancient conservatism, neat tended rows and everything in order, a chocolate box view of what a graveyard should be.

But, as I have mentioned in another thread, much of what annoys us in this country, is mess, waste and rubbish, discarded plastics that don't decay into the surroundings, despite how eco friendly they say they are.

But, plastics being thrown away, hey, that's oil, and we throw it away.

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