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IrishMist -> RE: mind fucks (3/21/2011 6:05:57 PM)

The best mind fuck my late husband used to get on me was with a gun. He was so fucking 'scary' that just looking into his eyes when he put the gun against my head was enough to have me believing that the gun was loaded....Nine times out of ten I would pass out when he pulled the trigger...the mind play was so good...what a fucking rush lol.



NuevaVida -> RE: mind fucks (3/21/2011 6:15:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968


That's why the thought of a mindfuck around knife play would thrill me to no end. It wouldn't be a matter of if he would cut me, but when and where he eventually would.


This was my experience with my ex owner.  Where would he cut me, and how deep would it go?  And with that really sharp blade lying so close against my neck, what if his hand slipped?

Only certain mindfucks "work" on me, however.  I suspect these days, I'd just get annoyed or even angry, for being tricked or made to radically fear something unnecessarily.  Whatever happened to my mind over the last couple of years, it doesn't want to be fucked with.  I think I may still be transitioning through some past things, and would not respond well.

Just a couple of days ago he led me into the bathroom with a suspicious look on his face and as he proceeded to kneel me before the toilet (I had no idea of what he was planning), I struggled with some serious anxiety of having been crapped on before (by the ex, not him), how horrible it was, and how I wasn't prepared to process such an experience again.  It was not his intention to bring me that kind of anxiety, so I can't say this was a planned mindfuck; I just didn't respond to it very well, regardless.

For me, mindfucks risk feeding into some ugly complications in my head.  Then again, I'm probably pretty limited in my thinking and can't imagine something that I'd respond well to.  I just don't like being tricked.  If you're acting like you're going to do something, just do it.  I can deal with that a lot better.



agirl -> RE: mind fucks (3/21/2011 6:21:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968


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ORIGINAL: agirl

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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

I see knife play as a mind fuck - and knife play never worked for me - because i trusted my Sir too much to believe he would ever cut me. And if there isn't that anticipation then all you have is a rather boring(for me) scene with a dom running a dull blade over a sub.



That's rather funny since one submissive pointed out that she was more afraid of my knife than my gun.  "I know you won't shoot me but I do know you are quite capable of cutting me."



And there you have the barest mindfuck.............What are you afraid of?.......what you KNOW will NEVER happen or what you KNOW may well happen?

Agirl







That's why the thought of a mindfuck around knife play would thrill me to no end. It wouldn't be a matter of if he would cut me, but when and where he eventually would.


That IS what a mind-fuck is, to me. Unless I KNOW he's capable, likely to...................I'm not with him on it. If I know jolly well that he'd never burn, cut, make me bleed, then he'd have a devil's job convincing me he could/would.

agirl



IrishMist -> RE: mind fucks (3/21/2011 6:25:53 PM)

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That IS what a mind-fuck is, to me. Unless I KNOW he's capable, likely to...................I'm not with him on it. If I know jolly well that he'd never burn, cut, make me bleed, then he'd have a devil's job convincing me he could/would.

Same for me...if I did not believe that he really COULD pull the trigger on a gun that was loaded, while it was pointed at me...then the mind fuck would never work.



JohnWarren -> RE: mind fucks (3/21/2011 6:26:59 PM)

I think it needs to be reinforced that a mindfuck is a response to a certain kind of kink.  Certainly there are going to be those who say "I don't like to be whipped, spanked, peed upon, hung by my wrists."   These people seek out dominants or masters who don't want to whip, spank, give golden showers or do suspension.  Not only is there nothing wrong with this, it's generally accepted as the way to go.

Some people like fear.  The most sensible response to this is a mindfuck.  Sometimes this need for fear is the center of their kink world.  I had one woman who broke up with me when she became confident that I wouldn't really harm her.  I heard later she was riding with a one-percenter motorcycle group.  I wonder if she survived.  However, if someone doesn't like fear, then the mindfuck is as irrelevant as the whip to the person in the previous paragraph.



Aileen1968 -> RE: mind fucks (3/21/2011 6:27:42 PM)

He even made me go out and buy the scalpel...

Mindfucks appeal to me because it's another arena where I have no control over.
It's another situation where I'm in the dark, so to speak about what will occur.



agirl -> RE: mind fucks (3/21/2011 7:05:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

He even made me go out and buy the scalpel...

Mindfucks appeal to me because it's another arena where I have no control over.
It's another situation where I'm in the dark, so to speak about what will occur.


I suppose there's enough parts of life that he could *do over*

I can't have a day at the sea-side,( don't even ask) or a drive in the car(worse, actually), or a snack in a cafe, and be oblivious as to what may happen.

I'm not in the dark, I'm frighteningly aware! The unknown seems curious, but it's not terrifying. M calls it "apprehensive" .. I think "apprehensive" says bugger-all about how I feel.

I'm scared of what I DO know, not of what I don't. In many ways , I'd like to go back to that place of not quite knowing. But then, having been there, the best is yet to come, surely.

:)

agirl

















ResidentSadist -> RE: mind fucks (3/21/2011 9:24:18 PM)

-=Damocles mind fuck=-

Over coffee one day while sitting with the gang from the local BDSM community, they told me about this little gem that one of our fellow Dominants likes to pull on new dates.

He takes his new date to the dungeon.  Being a very nice Dom type, he explains all that he is about to do in advance.  He ties her up nicely for full suspension and elevates her on the davit.  Then he puts a sword under her belly button like an inverted Damocles sword situation.  It presses against her and is held in place.  He puts a blindfold on her and then tells her he is going to adjust the sword.  Secretly, the sword is removed and an unknown accomplice sneaks up and holds a short dagger in its place.  Then the Dominant tells his submissive he is going to adjust the ropes.  He takes the hand crank for the davit and yells “ooops”, dropping her down a foot quickly. 

The variety of reactions is pretty intense. 

What is the point you ask in the OP?

If a girl can’t take a good fuck, mentally or otherwise, she shouldn’t "submit" to being hung over a deadly sword in the first place.  The “mind fuck” wasn’t as much a dirty trick as it was an attitude adjustment.  It erases the bullshit, it removes a role player's fantasies when the consequences of flirting with death like a “cock tease” becomes a “death shoved down your throat” situation instead.

If the mind fuck thrill made you wet and you submited to the thrilling sensations, swallowing the experience whole instead of fighting for control and withdrawing, you get to join the big boy’s club.  When you submit, submit all the way or go home.  No room for false pride or hidden control issues in that game.
Politically Correct Disclaimer - Other people use mind fucks for a variety of other reasons.  Not all are tests.



Arturas -> RE: mind fucks (3/21/2011 10:48:51 PM)

"Mind Fuck" is slang for making someone believe something is real when it is not. It is theatrical. It can be as simple as binding and blindfolding her on a whipping horse and then inexplicably leaving her semi nude and seemingly alone and unprotected while strangers voices reach her ears from somewhere close by and getting closer with her convinced by now that her Dom has abandoned her even though he silently stands besider her. Then a strange touch, then nothing, then another touch ... or while bound nude in a clearing beside a campfire she hears the sound of and smells searing flesh while her Dom throws hamburger on a hot pan while touching her with an ice cold can of pop. It is convincing her she is powerless and nobody will hear her screams during the long sesson that launches her into subspace...



sunshinemiss -> RE: mind fucks (3/22/2011 12:53:42 AM)

Sunny
Quote of the Day
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JohnWarren
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Danger carries the risk of being injured.



DesFIP -> RE: mind fucks (3/22/2011 12:03:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arturas
It is convincing her she is powerless and nobody will hear her screams during the long session that launches her into subspace...


Or into a full blown panic attack.

It isn't that I don't trust him 1,000 percent. It's that I have anxiety disorder. Playing with it is like doing starvation play on a diabetic. They will suffer harm as a result.



Kana -> RE: mind fucks (3/22/2011 12:09:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968
That's why the thought of a mindfuck around knife play would thrill me to no end. It wouldn't be a matter of if he would cut me, but when and where he eventually would.



There is little hotter than cutting your name into her flesh.
It's just smoking.
Dang. I think I know what my next profile pic is gonna be....heads off down the tunnels of the hard drive, looking for that snapshot....



leadership527 -> RE: mind fucks (3/22/2011 12:12:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: agirl
That IS what a mind-fuck is, to me. Unless I KNOW he's capable, likely to...................

Well OK. I get this completely. I just don't get how it's a mind-fuck. I'd just call it "A command Carol really wishes I wouldn't give". The phrase "mind fuck" to me implies some sort of misdirection.



CreepyStalker -> RE: mind fucks (3/22/2011 7:51:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: princess2m

I am having trouble wrapping my mind around


See there's your problem. Your going about this the wrong way round. You should be wrapping a vagina (or arse, if you're so inclined) around your mind in order to mind fuck it, not the other way around.



LillyBoPeep -> RE: mind fucks (3/22/2011 7:54:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

He even made me go out and buy the scalpel...

Mindfucks appeal to me because it's another arena where I have no control over.
It's another situation where I'm in the dark, so to speak about what will occur.


that's another slant on it -- messing with you by making you go find the object that's going to be used on you. if you're a person who closes your eyes, making you watch what's happening. mindfucking can be about fear, and it can be about being put off-balance, however that takes form



agirl -> RE: mind fucks (3/24/2011 11:13:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: leadership527

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ORIGINAL: agirl
That IS what a mind-fuck is, to me. Unless I KNOW he's capable, likely to...................

Well OK. I get this completely. I just don't get how it's a mind-fuck. I'd just call it "A command Carol really wishes I wouldn't give". The phrase "mind fuck" to me implies some sort of misdirection.



I understand. I'm not really talking about commands.

It's obviously going to depend what type of person you are.

For example....I don't want my lips (either set :)) sutured closed, in fact I'm petrified and dread it....but I know he could and would do it (and almost certain to at some time). If I see needles and suture thread laying on my dressing table, I'm going to be worried (read that as terrified) from that moment on, that THIS is the moment, that he's decided to do it. He may WELL intend to......He may just staple them closed. I won't know until it's actually occuring.

The point I was making is that if I know he would NEVER suture my lips, then I'd not be fearful.

I understand that people may well still be fearful in those circumstances, even if part of their mind KNOWS it will not happen. I'm not one of those people.

It IS about misdirection but it has to be a realistic option..for ME.

Someone I didn't know well wouldn't really be able to mind-fuck me at all because I wouldn't allow them the opportunity. I've only trod the weird, wild and terrifying path with M.

The Damacles Sword thing would definitely work on me......because it has the *ooops, accident* factor. But it'd be a *once only* mind-fuck...lol. I can see why it's a *new date* thing:)

agirl











Buzzzz -> RE: mind fucks (3/25/2011 10:28:56 PM)

I recommend the book by Flagg. called a forqued tongue. Great explanation of what a mind fuck is.



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