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popeye1250 -> Obama in Brazil (3/21/2011 5:37:05 PM)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1367871/Obamas-Brazil-visit-Violent-welcome-rubber-bullets-tear-gas-riots-US.html Well, what a welcome! And aboard Air Force One was a baker's dozen of Fortune 500 CEOs who want "free trade" with Brazil. As if the working class in this country haven't been ravaged enough already by all those free trade agreements that noone wanted in the first place. Does anyone know when Obama is going to start listening to The People of this country and do what we want instead of listening to guys to whom $50 million dollars "doesn't amount to much?" If they're working at all many people in Brazil make about $3,500 per year. What do the ivy leaguers think they're going to be buying from us, Cadillacs, $700 refridgerators, L.L. Bean clothing? More likely they want to "open factories in Brazil" pay the people there less and close more factories in the U.S. Who's side is Obama on?

slvemike4u -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/21/2011 5:43:03 PM)
This should be interesting...Popeye riffing on his favorite subject.

Lucylastic -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/21/2011 5:52:52 PM)
HAhahahahahahah sweet gawd, You cant intefere in corporations and freee enterprise. Capitalism is what made your country great, unfortunately the owners and shareholders only care about lining their pockets not farming out jobs It would be unconstitutional for Obama to meddle, surely.... Another oil supplier? what are you thinking? Kajillions of shareholders and middle management jerking off to this Dont regulate business cant you hear the oil men moaning their way to a orgasm??? jerking all over your faces? They are being good ol boy merryccans

Politesub53 -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/21/2011 5:58:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u This should be interesting...Popeye riffing on his favorite subject. No doubt Popeye had a fit when he saw how many Fortune 500 companies went to China during Reagans watch. From memory it was something like 75/80%

flcouple2009 -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/21/2011 6:01:54 PM)
Mike, Interesting in a train wreck kinda way. quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 And aboard Air Force One was a baker's dozen of Fortune 500 CEOs who want "free trade" with Brazil. *"The U.S. President landed in the capital of Brasilia with his wife and daughters*" Not sure where that tidbit from old Pops came from. I can't find any reference anywhere of there being 13 anything traveling with him. I don't think old Pops understands that out of all the places you want to make nice with Brazil would be at the top of the list. Petrobras is sitting on the 4th largest oil reserves in the world, virtually in our back yard.

DomKen -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/21/2011 8:18:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 Mike, Interesting in a train wreck kinda way. quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 And aboard Air Force One was a baker's dozen of Fortune 500 CEOs who want "free trade" with Brazil. *"The U.S. President landed in the capital of Brasilia with his wife and daughters*" Not sure where that tidbit from old Pops came from. I can't find any reference anywhere of there being 13 anything traveling with him. I don't think old Pops understands that out of all the places you want to make nice with Brazil would be at the top of the list. Petrobras is sitting on the 4th largest oil reserves in the world, virtually in our back yard. It's a lot more than the oil. Brazil has long been a reliable friend if not ally and is poised to become a major economy. Better they should move in our sphere of influence than India or China's.

slvemike4u -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/21/2011 8:22:25 PM)
But surely that,in and of itself,does not justify an American President traveling to a furrrin country to engage furriners in productive dialogue?

jlf1961 -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/21/2011 8:34:17 PM)
Obama Met In Rio With Riots I think one topic describing socialists protesting Obama, who the right wingnuts claim is a socialist is enough.

MrRodgers -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/22/2011 12:17:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1367871/Obamas-Brazil-visit-Violent-welcome-rubber-bullets-tear-gas-riots-US.html Well, what a welcome! And aboard Air Force One was a baker's dozen of Fortune 500 CEOs who want "free trade" with Brazil. As if the working class in this country haven't been ravaged enough already by all those free trade agreements that noone wanted in the first place. Does anyone know when Obama is going to start listening to The People of this country and do what we want instead of listening to guys to whom $50 million dollars "doesn't amount to much?" If they're working at all many people in Brazil make about $3,500 per year. What do the ivy leaguers think they're going to be buying from us, Cadillacs, $700 refridgerators, L.L. Bean clothing? More likely they want to "open factories in Brazil" pay the people there less and close more factories in the U.S. Who's side is Obama on? I've written and continue to write, Obama works for the bankers, the corporatists...they ALL do. When an executive presides over a devaluation of the stock, an unprecedented dozens of product recalls, etc, etc., and takes a pay *cut* down to a measly $23million+ and in one fucking year...then one is forced to recognize why the American economy exists. To serve the opulent few...period.

tazzygirl -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/22/2011 12:36:23 AM)
Im still waiting to see where, in print, the baker's dozen was mentioned... anyone... anyone?

DarkSteven -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/22/2011 5:55:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen It's a lot more than the oil. Brazil has long been a reliable friend if not ally and is poised to become a major economy. Better they should move in our sphere of influence than India or China's. Agreed. High time we focused a little attention south of the border. Brazil will be a major player in the region, and is amenable to us unlike Venezuela, Cuba, etc. In today's day and age, a President's physical presence is symbolic. He can work as effectively anywhere that has good phone service. Obama's visit is basically a goodwill visit and not a bad idea at all.

popeye1250 -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/22/2011 9:54:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Im still waiting to see where, in print, the baker's dozen was mentioned... anyone... anyone? Michael Savage read their names on his show last week. If you're interested I would think it would be easy to find that list of names. Wouldn't the unbiased "NPR" have it? Experience has shown that whenever "our govt" gets us involved in "trade deals" the working class in this country gets hurt. And when the working class get hurt we all get hurt. (Now there's a real "conservative" thought.) Mike, even if you like Obama you have to admit that he's in way over his head. That book, "The Peter Principle" comes to mind. I thought he was supposed to get us "out" of wars not send 30,000 more Troops to Afganistan and get us involved in Libya. How does the U.S. possably gain anything from getting involved in Libya? They produce 2% of world oil and that is sold to Europe mostly.

mnottertail -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/22/2011 10:02:16 AM)
Since NPR is unbiased and sort of responsible in their journalism, I doubt they would report anything on it, unless to say that michael savage is a fuckin nebbish.

flcouple2009 -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/22/2011 10:05:08 AM)
And those names would be? The reason we're asking is nobody can find any reference to that "baker's dozen" not even on the fair and balanced FOX News.

mnottertail -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/22/2011 10:08:03 AM)
Because The Mail (which both p's would believe as gospel), in case anyone here has missed it, makes Faux Nuze network look like a continuous loop of documentaries.

popeye1250 -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/22/2011 10:11:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 And those names would be? The reason we're asking is nobody can find any reference to that "baker's dozen" not even on the fair and balanced FOX News. http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=48881

flcouple2009 -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/22/2011 10:19:10 AM)
Yes of course the "SECRET LIST", now can you provide any actual facts from a real new source?

kalikshama -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/22/2011 10:24:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 And those names would be? The reason we're asking is nobody can find any reference to that "baker's dozen" not even on the fair and balanced FOX News. I came up empty on Google as well. Guess Michael Savage has another scoop. [8\|]

popeye1250 -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/22/2011 10:28:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 Yes of course the "SECRET LIST", now can you provide any actual facts from a real new source? Ok, I produce what you ask for and you dispute it. You can keep doing that forever can't you? Are you saying that Jeffry Imelt, CEO of General Electric was (not) in Brazil with Obama?

kalikshama -> RE: Obama in Brazil (3/22/2011 10:30:19 AM)
quote: http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=48881 Oh THIS just screams credibility: [image]local://upfiles/1052865/853A2C7AA0D54721B64DBD9BC1BA6E36.jpg[/image]

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