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RE: God's Wife - 3/23/2011 10:26:41 AM   
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Sounds like a bunch of damn Mormons

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RE: God's Wife - 3/23/2011 10:30:13 AM   
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Maybe if you cleaned your ears out.........

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RE: God's Wife - 3/23/2011 10:37:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

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As JohnWarren pointed out:

"And God spake all these words, saying, I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. "

so, even the Christian God acknowledged other Gods (and presumably Goddesses).



So were those words a request or an order ?

But I still wonder about the link between Sinai, the moon god sin and the beliefs of the time.

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RE: God's Wife - 3/23/2011 12:25:16 PM   
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This is a vast topic and the answers wont likely answer themselves in past available texts etc. The Book of Mary was not put into the Bible so that tells you what? When people came and erased all the wall art/archives in the Egyptian thing that had anything to do with women, and in so many ways this is true all down through time. Women being held down obliterated, not taken seriously etc etc.

Watch people, more and more will come to light. Of course there is a Female aspect to Creation, DUH!

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RE: God's Wife - 3/23/2011 12:36:40 PM   
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When I have time, I'll find a Bible passage that was missed by the patriarchy.

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RE: God's Wife - 3/23/2011 1:21:05 PM   
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A truly all knowing god wouldnt consider having a wife. Guess which is god and which is the wife?

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RE: God's Wife - 3/23/2011 2:56:23 PM   
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No one still believes in the Greek or Roman gods and goddesses as anything but mythology.

What makes this different?

At issue is the inclusive masculine and feminine nature of divinity. These masculine and feminine qualities are represented by gods and goddesses with different forms and names in different cultures, but the particular form and name is irrelevant. Myths will differ from culture to culture, but they are typically expressions of the same underlying themes concerning divine and natural phenomena.

Our Abrahamic traditions, however, have suppressed the feminine component of the ageless divinity myth. In Yahweh and Christ and Allah we have Osiris without Isis, Shiva without Shakti, when there can be no Osiris without Isis, no Shiva without Shakti.

I know that some people view myths simply as outrageous faerie tales, told on a grand scale. But Joseph Campell, Heinrich Zimmer, and Carl Jung, among others, have seen in our myths and archetypes a transcultural guide to the nature of the self. It is often observed, typically dismissively, that man created god in his own image. But it is seldom realized that it is by that very image that man may come to know himself more fully, for it shows him more of himself than his world-distracted mind encompasses.

But our Abrahamic traditions have mutilated the ancient divine myths in the service of temporal power, and spread themselves at the point of a spear; by war, extermination, and cruelty beyond imagining. And from start to finish, the God of this tradition has changed to suit the changing needs of power.

At first, an entire people would be punished for the actions of a single man. Think of the Nazis standing up 20 villagers in front of a firing squad when there was a partisan in the town. Not a good approach for the long run, of course. People don't like it. So eventually, in the service of maintaining power, God became a fellow who eschewed inflicting mayhem upon the good along with the bad.

With Christianity, he finally evolved into the author of the most pernicious guilt trip ever laid on humanity, with eternal damnation if you don't believe it, of course. The Abrahamic god may change, but never the underlying power motive.

This mutilation of the ancient myths has mutilated man's psyche and civilization wherever it has raised its ugly head. And those who passionately argue against the misogyny of our Western faiths will find strong support in the divine myths that our Abrahamic traditions have shed so much blood to discredit and destroy.

From the genocidal slaughters by the Hebrews, to the Christian Crusades, to Islamic terrorists and pro-life murderers, the Abrahamic legacy is one of male power, for power's sake alone, and at any price. What difference does it make if it becomes known that Yahweh had his Asherah before a male-dominated hierarchy mutilated the old myths in the service of its lust for self-exhaltation? I don't know, but it's a step in the right direction.

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RE: God's Wife - 3/23/2011 5:36:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

No one still believes in the Greek or Roman gods and goddesses as anything but mythology.

What makes this different?

At issue is the inclusive masculine and feminine nature of divinity. These masculine and feminine qualities are represented by gods and goddesses with different forms and names in different cultures, but the particular form and name is irrelevant. Myths will differ from culture to culture, but they are typically expressions of the same underlying themes concerning divine and natural phenomena.

Our Abrahamic traditions, however, have suppressed the feminine component of the ageless divinity myth. In Yahweh and Christ and Allah we have Osiris without Isis, Shiva without Shakti, when there can be no Osiris without Isis, no Shiva without Shakti.

I know that some people view myths simply as outrageous faerie tales, told on a grand scale. But Joseph Campell, Heinrich Zimmer, and Carl Jung, among others, have seen in our myths and archetypes a transcultural guide to the nature of the self. It is often observed, typically dismissively, that man created god in his own image. But it is seldom realized that it is by that very image that man may come to know himself more fully, for it shows him more of himself than his world-distracted mind encompasses.

But our Abrahamic traditions have mutilated the ancient divine myths in the service of temporal power, and spread themselves at the point of a spear; by war, extermination, and cruelty beyond imagining. And from start to finish, the God of this tradition has changed to suit the changing needs of power.

At first, an entire people would be punished for the actions of a single man. Think of the Nazis standing up 20 villagers in front of a firing squad when there was a partisan in the town. Not a good approach for the long run, of course. People don't like it. So eventually, in the service of maintaining power, God became a fellow who eschewed inflicting mayhem upon the good along with the bad.

With Christianity, he finally evolved into the author of the most pernicious guilt trip ever laid on humanity, with eternal damnation if you don't believe it, of course. The Abrahamic god may change, but never the underlying power motive.

This mutilation of the ancient myths has mutilated man's psyche and civilization wherever it has raised its ugly head. And those who passionately argue against the misogyny of our Western faiths will find strong support in the divine myths that our Abrahamic traditions have shed so much blood to discredit and destroy.

From the genocidal slaughters by the Hebrews, to the Christian Crusades, to Islamic terrorists and pro-life murderers, the Abrahamic legacy is one of male power, for power's sake alone, and at any price. What difference does it make if it becomes known that Yahweh had his Asherah before a male-dominated hierarchy mutilated the old myths in the service of its lust for self-exhaltation? I don't know, but it's a step in the right direction.

K.



Bravo


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RE: God's Wife - 3/23/2011 9:59:27 PM   
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Breaking news:
Recent studies indicate that Asherah, the powerful fertility goddess believed to be God's wife, was really God's husband.

Yes, that's right. Research by Francesa Stavrakopoulou, a senior lecturer in the Department of Theology and Religion at the University of Exeter, unearthed clues to his identity, but good luck finding any evidence of it in the Bible. If Stavrakopoulou is right, heavy handed homophobic editors of the text all but removed him from the sacred book.

What remains of God's purported other half is ancient texts, some highly suggestive wall paintings, and a stockpile of petrified anal lube that's believed to have been used in religious rituals and was unearthed in an ancient Caananite city, now in modern-day Syria. Inscriptions on dildos in the Sinai desert also show Yahweh and Asherah were worshipped as a pair, and a passage in the Book of Kings mentions the god as being housed in the house of Yahweh.

J. Edward Wright, president of the Arizona Center for Judaic Studies and The Albright Institute for Archeological Research, backs Stavrakopoulou's findings, saying several Hebrew inscriptions mention, "Yaweh and his Asherah." He adds Asherah was not entirely edited out of the Bible by it's homophobic editors.

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RE: God's Wife - 3/23/2011 10:06:33 PM   
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This is turning to be almost as much fun as the debate about Lilith

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RE: God's Wife - 3/23/2011 11:36:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

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As JohnWarren pointed out:

"And God spake all these words, saying, I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. "

so, even the Christian God acknowledged other Gods (and presumably Goddesses).


Well GT, I guess that depends if you believe in any type of supernatural being.

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RE: God's Wife - 3/24/2011 12:41:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Well GT, I guess that depends if you believe in any type of supernatural being.

Well RML, I guess you could argue, then, that whether or not it would be a waste of time to discuss Huckleberry Finn would depend on whether or not one believed that "Huck" really existed. But accepting that view, myths of gods and goddesses are projections of the human psyche, so whether or not one would see any value in discussing them should depend on whether or not one believes human beings exist.

You do, don't you?

K.


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