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Tea Party Support For The Republican Congress Plunges - 3/23/2011 9:54:24 PM   
Brain


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Status: offline 		It looks like trouble in paradise. Too bad they believed Republican lies you can create jobs and solve every problem with tax cuts. On the bright side 2012 will be gloomy for the Republicans.


Tea Party Support For The Republican Congress Plunges

Raise your hand if you didn’t see this one coming a mile away. A bunch of political neophytes who have no idea how their government actually works, believed a slew of campaign promises by a Republican Party that promised them things that they had no chance of delivering with a Democratic president in office, and now those supporters feel betrayed and are disgruntled and angry.

The reality is that the Republican Party set itself up for this from day one, by promising things that they knew they could never deliver. Voters have become extremely impatient since 2006. When they vote for change, they want it NOW. Republicans promised a change in spending and deficits that they could never bring about. In fact, the Republican House leadership of John Boehner and Eric Cantor had no interest in delivering their budget and deficit plan.

Either way if these voters don’t learn about the legislative process and the limitations of only controlling the House, Republican incumbents are looking at a gloomy situation in 2012, the GOP wanted power and now they are being held accountable. The Tea Partiers naively believed what they were sold in 2010, and they are finding out just how used they were by a corporate AstroTurf movement that exploited their emotions, but had no intention of delivering on their agenda.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/tea-party-republican-congress






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RE: Tea Party Support For The Republican Congress Plunges - 3/24/2011 1:38:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well then, I guess we can expect to see the Tea Partiers with "Obama" bumperstickers in 2012?

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RE: Tea Party Support For The Republican Congress Plunges - 3/24/2011 5:36:58 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brain

It looks like trouble in paradise. Too bad they believed Republican lies you can create jobs and solve every problem with tax cuts. On the bright side 2012 will be gloomy for the Republicans.


Tea Party Support For The Republican Congress Plunges

Raise your hand if you didn’t see this one coming a mile away. A bunch of political neophytes who have no idea how their government actually works, believed a slew of campaign promises by a Republican Party that promised them things that they had no chance of delivering with a Democratic president in office, and now those supporters feel betrayed and are disgruntled and angry.

The reality is that the Republican Party set itself up for this from day one, by promising things that they knew they could never deliver. Voters have become extremely impatient since 2006. When they vote for change, they want it NOW. Republicans promised a change in spending and deficits that they could never bring about. In fact, the Republican House leadership of John Boehner and Eric Cantor had no interest in delivering their budget and deficit plan.

Either way if these voters don’t learn about the legislative process and the limitations of only controlling the House, Republican incumbents are looking at a gloomy situation in 2012, the GOP wanted power and now they are being held accountable. The Tea Partiers naively believed what they were sold in 2010, and they are finding out just how used they were by a corporate AstroTurf movement that exploited their emotions, but had no intention of delivering on their agenda.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/tea-party-republican-congress







The problem, Brain, is buying into the whole teabaggers as a "party" idea. It simply isn't true. teabaggers are republicans and a subset. Not as a separate party. No bagger won election as a bagger. They won as a republican. Again, it would be same as if the DLC somehow pretended that it was a separate party of Democrats and not Democrats...

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RE: Tea Party Support For The Republican Congress Plunges - 3/24/2011 5:40:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		It is that we are going way too slow cutting. And, if these people fail us, we will elect more tea partiers to congress and the white house. we aren't stopping. tick tock tick tock... seeya hussein! hope and change up your yazoo.

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RE: Tea Party Support For The Republican Congress Plunges - 3/24/2011 5:42:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey dumbass, there is no such thing as the TEA PARTY......It is an invention of the republican party. Clever, no doubt, but no less fiction-

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RE: Tea Party Support For The Republican Congress Plunges - 3/24/2011 6:10:43 AM   
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RE: Tea Party Support For The Republican Congress Plunges - 3/24/2011 12:50:51 PM   
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I admire your persistence and expect someday your hard work will be rewarded.

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It is that we are going way too slow cutting. And, if these people fail us, we will elect more tea partiers to congress and the white house. we aren't stopping. tick tock tick tock... seeya hussein! hope and change up your yazoo.


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RE: Tea Party Support For The Republican Congress Plunges - 3/24/2011 1:03:53 PM   
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I admire your persistence and expect someday your hard work will be rewarded.

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It is that we are going way too slow cutting. And, if these people fail us, we will elect more tea partiers to congress and the white house. we aren't stopping. tick tock tick tock... seeya hussein! hope and change up your yazoo.




They may have three or four in the house (never have any in the senate) by 2040  or so

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RE: Tea Party Support For The Republican Congress Plunges - 3/24/2011 9:00:02 PM   
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They'll back Democrats next time if GOP disappoints them.

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Well then, I guess we can expect to see the Tea Partiers with "Obama" bumperstickers in 2012?


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RE: Tea Party Support For The Republican Congress Plunges - 3/25/2011 12:21:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's a long way to 2012, but the Democrats practically need a Democratic wave year just to not lose ground in the Senate.  This election cycle will put the Senate class of 2006 up for reelection, meaning the starting baseline is already a Democratic wave.  There are only 10 Republican held seats up for election, and most of them are probably pretty safe holds:  Arizona, Indiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Nevada, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Wyoming.  Not a lot of offensive targets for the Democrats.  Although it has been amusing to see Scott Brown trying to hold the middle course between losing the support of his party, and becoming too conservative for Massachusetts.

There aren't many polls out, but if you take a very rough extrapolation based on Obama's approval ratings (see fivethirtyeight for lots of analysis of how they project to an incumbent's reelection chances), there's a pretty high chance the Democrats will (narrowly) retake the House, lose the Senate, and hold the Presidency.

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RE: Tea Party Support For The Republican Congress Plunges - 3/25/2011 12:29:16 AM   
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Well then, I guess we can expect to see the Tea Partiers with "Obama" bumperstickers in 2012?


The danger of losing the support of your base isn't that they'll vote for your opponent, but that they won't vote at all.  Even if they do, they're less likely to volunteer for or donate to a campaign they don't feel strongly about.  Republican turnout wasn't all that different between 2004 and 2008; what made it a Democratic wave year was the surge in liberal voters' enthusiasm for Obama over Kerry.  (There are similar numbers from '02 to '06, though you can't really compare either to '04 and '08 because midyear elections behave differently from Presidential election years.) 

The key thing to remember about elections in the United States that often gets ignored by the media - most people think of the election as a fixed set of voters each candidate is trying to win over.  In reality, elections are better thought of as having three "pools" of potential voters - one the Republican is trying to draw votes from, one the Democrat is trying to draw votes from, and one (independents) both are trying to draw votes from.

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RE: Tea Party Support For The Republican Congress Plunges - 3/25/2011 12:37:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		The 'Tea' Party is the 'TV Party and will be around as long as there are Koch bros., Murdock and the rich neocons. Fox will intentionally keep everything it can about the 'TV' Party on the air, not necessarily in the news as there will not always be any. Fox will make it up and call it 'news.'

Speaking of rich neocons, they have the 3rd party shit and the money locked up. So it doesn't fuck'n matter who is elected, nothing...nothing will really change at all. We will get Obama 2 or 'W' 2 in 2012 or 2016. There is still a few trillion to wring out of the middle class and poor and there is our military...always expanding, it's size, presence and influence...good or bad.

A dem senate minority will filibuster anything drastic and the repubs will seek tax cuts for their capitalist and corporatist sponsors.

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