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MrMister -> Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 6:52:39 AM)

I would like to get some input on something that has been on my mind as of late. Are there people here who actually believe that one is not truly in the “lifestyle” if one does not attend lifestyle functions on a regular basis?

Obviously, there is a wealth of knowledge to be gained from certain events that are geared for honing skills and/or educating those who have a desire to learn as much as humanly possible (and by the way I will always be highly motivated to continually learn and better myself by whatever means are available). But I have heard on more than a few occasions that I am not truly in this lifestyle if I don’t have a desire to participate in functions revolving around public play. Just wondering is this the general consensus amongst people posting on these boards?

My stance is that this is absolutely a bunch of nonsense, for we are who we are. Some like chicken, some like fish. We all can’t want and desire the very same things in life, and particularly this lifestyle. It has made me wonder how in the world is it possible that I have seen so much intolerance and negativism simply because of my choices and preferences. Very strange indeed coming from folks associated with a lifestyle that in fact is not very well accepted amongst mainstream society.




IronBear -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 6:57:35 AM)

Mandatory ? Nooooo recomended though for some.... There are also some who firmly believe that unless you are in agreement with them 100% you are not BDSM too.... I guess they make that belief Mandatory too.... The way I see it being only partly involved with the BDSM scene, is that you follow your beliefs learning from good people as you go and if some done want to recognise you, why you just close your fist, raise it to the level of your face with kuckles upand the back of the hand facing they and slowley extend the middle finger and grin......

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Alumbrado -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 7:03:45 AM)

Mandatory?  Hardly  And people are free to claim they are 'in the lifestyle' according to whatever standards they wish.

People are also free to dip one toe into the water, and claim they are 'in the pool'.[;)]




Rayne58 -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 7:10:02 AM)

Pffft! Master and I have only been to one play party in the two years we've been together. We enjoyed it, and will probably go to another one or two during the speedway off-season, but we're not party animals and our relationship is no less genuine than someone who goes to these activities all the time.




HCWT1 -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 7:19:21 AM)

MrMister, totally agree with your stance,theres so much bulls..t flowing about,its a wonder we dont all grow flippers.




rapture2778 -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 7:20:06 AM)

While it is something that i enjoy being a part of, i wouldn't say that it is "mandatory."  The last time i checked there was no "Almighty BDSM Ruler" proclaiming that the only way to be a "real" BDSM'er was to attend every function available.  i have never really understood this "who is the better Dom/subbie" attitude many have in this lifestyle, both online and in R/T.  Do what you are comfortable doing, and do those things that you enjoy, and forget the rest!




TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 7:40:27 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrMister
Are there people here who actually believe that one is not truly in the “lifestyle” if one does not attend lifestyle functions on a regular basis?


I doubt you could find one single quote on this board from anyone with more than 500 posts that says anything like what I have quoted above.

That said, what you will find is people saying that the best way to meet people is to get out into your local community.  Usually this is in reply to someone complaining that they can't find "real" slaves/Masters on this website or that their 8 month online training relationship vanished into smoke when the time to go 3d arrived.

Nice straw man though...

Taggard




SaphireLynn -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 7:41:27 AM)

no they should not be mandatory....but they are educational....and so much fun why would you not want to go...
Ms. Lynn




puella -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 7:43:20 AM)

I guess I will throw my two cents in and just say... from my perspective.. being submissive is something I am, it is not something I do.  It is not some alter ego or costume (or lack there of!) which I don to go out for a night of kinky sex and 'shocking' behavior and get my emotional and physical and sexual rocks off (though.. I don't think I, technically, have rocks???  Maybe I should start a new post to ask that? hehe).  I do not need nor seek the approval of others in my choice of who I am as a person (unless I am owned.  Then his approval of  course is of the highest importantce to me, by my very nature.), nor do I seek to join some sort of  'kinky' fraternity to validate my 'worthiness' of what is just an organic reality,and really, the most natural state of being for me as a person.

I am not saying that is the only thing that BDSM munches, gathering etc provide.  Community can be a very good thing... What I am saying is, it is not something I need to validate who I am as a human being.. and being submissive is just a part of  me, the human being.



(Hmmmm.. I have been throwing a lot of cents in, two at a time... no wonder I'm always so strapped!) 




CrappyDom -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 7:55:18 AM)

To me, you can live the "lifestyle" (whatever the fuck that is) in a closet, but you can't be 24/7 without living together.

To me, I have yet to meet anyone who does WIIWD in isolation that is balanced and grounded view of how all this works who hasn't at least spent a few years in the scene. I mean if you got a burning desire to do this stuff and yet stay away from places where lots of others do it, that says something about you, just like spending every night at a munch or party says something about you.

What I see being in the scene provides people is perspective. You get to see fantastic male submissives, shitty female ones, female doms who are glorious as well as not so glorious. You get to see relationships vastly different than yours that work, you get to see how others do things, in short, it is like travel, it broadens the mind.







juliaoceania -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 7:56:30 AM)

Cheers Puella, that is EXACTLY my thoughts, you just said them better than I would have.




theRose4U -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 7:59:19 AM)

I would agree with Taggard. Attending a munch or class is helpful and can be educational or a good way to meet a live Dom/me when you've had problems taking online to RL.

Personally I prefer private play. I have quite a bit to lose and some of my boys have had even more to lose by the wrong person "outing" us. Lifestyle events are cautiously chosen and things such as masks or hoods might be utilized depending on the comfort level.




juliaoceania -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 8:06:47 AM)

If you have a partner and your kink is 24-7 power exchange how does this make you imbalanced because you do not attend events? If you do nothing that needs guidance to make sure you are safe I do not see why that person would be imbalanced. They have a partner, they just do not get off on being a in crowd.

On the other hand someone may have very good reasons they do not want to attend munches or other events.. I do not want to participate at this time, although I do email with locals involved in the group. It is harder for some then for others to go out where the sole purpose of meeting is "public play". I do not think anyone would pressure me to play publically, but I am not into that at this point, and I do not want to meet others that are at this point. That could change if I met someone and formed a long lasting relationship with them.

Personally I just do not agree with you that someone is imbalanced because they choose not to go to play parties, conventions, munches and that sort of thing. I may NEVER want to do that and I am still a sub who only dates dominant men. I have a very balanced life... that is almost like saying someone who gets horny all the time but does not go to a single's bar is somehow "imbalanced" because they find dates online.. that isnt true either. Just my opinion....




MstrssPassion -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 8:11:27 AM)

It's kind of like church...

Does one have to be sitting in church on Sunday in order to be called a Christian?

Do we benefit on some level by attending organized events?

Sure we do.




puella -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 8:21:52 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion

It's kind of like church...

Does one have to be sitting in church on Sunday in order to be called a Christian?

Do we benefit on some level by attending organized events?

Sure we do.



Though I do get your metaphor, I am not wholly in accordance with you...

Did I 'get' more from reading, and discussing and internalizing and then utilizing within my relationships what my 'submissiveness' is about or did I get more from the 30 minute whip presentation and the Kinky Corner Pub...

Did I learn more and become a spiritual person by reading, discussing, intellectualizing, processing and meditating privately upon what that means to me... or did I learn more about it sitting in a church hearing passages from a book written in a society over 2000 years ago, with a 'holy' man telling me what my choices had to be if I were spiritual and a part of that church?

Community has it's place for sure, but I think in terms of the development of something so essential as self.. going to a munch is far less important than going into yourself and learning who you are.

Another two cents down the drain!




Mercnbeth -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 8:22:58 AM)

First you ask a question:
quote:

Are there people here who actually believe that one is not truly in the “lifestyle” if one does not attend lifestyle functions on a regular basis?


You're question implies you haven't met, don't know, or are unsure, if this sentiment exists; but you condemn it anyway, and while doing so denigrate those who do enjoy attending functions in the company of like minded people.
quote:

My stance is that this is absolutely a bunch of nonsense


Fret not, at these functions we don't open the "meeting" by saying; "All those not here aren't worthy of being called Master or slave." I've been to many functions, I was never there when any vote was taken. Those that lurk by the door, obviously at such a event for the first time, aren't told; "Enter or forever be know as a poser!" The first time you go, you may have to sign some disclaimer paperwork and get an ID card or number; but no one greets you with; "Welcome to the home of the righteous."

No one cares what you think. And, sorry to take away any self imposed sense of importance, no one wonders why you aren't there or considers you at all. Except in one aspect, where it's similar to a gym membership. If everyone who "signed up" actually showed up - there wouldn't be enough equipment. In that respect, maybe it's better that a large group with lifestyle identification limit their participation to the home. It's crowded enough with the vanillas wandering/wondering around Folsom.

Why anyone would have the opportunity to be with people who enjoy the same things as they do and not take advantage of it is beyond me. Having the luxury of a nicely equipped home dungeon, there is no need to go to the "gym", I mean dungeon, as often as we used to. We go now to functions, and club events, simply because we like being with the people. And here's another secret, we don't exclusively talk about BDSM, or the latest perversion we want to try. Ignore the "costumes" the collars, the naked bodies, and document the chat and it could be occurring at a PTA meeting. Wait a second...at PTA meetings there is much more talk of sex.

The energy of being around people confident in who and what they are is enjoyable. You can learn and see more at one seminar/workshop filled event than you can imagine. As good as the interenet and other written sources are for reference, you can't get interactive sensation based feedback. Maybe you learn about something you want to try, maybe you see something you always wanted to try and decide it's not for you.

One of the main reasons that I recommend to people new to public events to go to one, is that, unlike the internet, you RARELY if ever see the judgment you've implied by the question and prejudicial response, you provided and I quoted above.




CrappyDom -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 8:32:59 AM)

Julia,

Excellent question and one that has me thinking.

I may well be biased because I live in California a wonderfully liberal place and near San Francisco and thus can be out (at work) and have access to events of all shapes and sizes is easy.

However, you example of bars is a good one. Would you date someone who was 30+ who had never met a woman and never had a real relationship. If you chose to, your expectations for sucess would be less, would they not?

Okay in writing this and thinking about your question, let me provide a more balanced statement. What counts as involvement here in Sacramento is going to be different than what counts to someone in St. Louis or somewhere in Idaho. But what I stated about wondering why someone did not seek out like minded people would remain a cautionary flag to me.

I have edited my post in response to your question to remove balanced as I didn't mean to imply they were unbalanced in the mental sense, I meant balanced in their understanding of WIIWD.




spankmepink11 -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 8:33:57 AM)

I also believe that  while attending lifestyle events can be educating...helpful...and give one a sense of community...it certainly isn't mandatory.

<sidebar>    what is WIIWD???  i've seen the term several times...and forgive me if i'm missing the obvious...in context...it seems to mean  "what i would do...but  for the life of me i can't figure out what the extra I  stands for.
 




indybbwsubbie -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 8:35:31 AM)

To me - i had been involved in the lifestyle for many years but had never experienced attending any functions.  Finally did start attending....and wow!  - so very eye-opening for me!  i discovered that there were actually good and decent ppl out there that live this lifestyle - compared to the users and manipulators i had ever met or been involved with. 

Now as a submissive - i have a more clear picture of what is "out there" and that i can safely keep looking until i find the Dom of my dreams.  And within the safety of my local community - i can learn and grow - as well as have a bit of fun!  heehee!

"to chain the body is to free the soul"    indybbwsubbie




puella -> RE: Attending lifestyle functions is mandatory??? (5/7/2006 8:35:38 AM)

Yikes, I see his question was offensive to you.. but I read his question not as to whether there was any reason to attend groups/events, .. I don't think anyone would maintain that there is no reason to go, or that anyone who does go is just .. silly or whatever.  I think there are probably varying degrees of how much fun or beneficial each individual group would be to each individual ... but sure there are lots of things you can get out of them.. I just don't think you should go there looking to find the meaning of self. (I don't think you should 'go' anywhere to find the meaning of self.. it can only be found within you.)

I thought he was asking whether people believed you HAD to attend to be "in" the "lifestyle"... which would seem fairly obvious to me that no, you do not.




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