Affordable Care Act, 1 year later

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joether -> Affordable Care Act, 1 year later (3/24/2011 8:43:00 AM)
Its offical, the Affordable Care Act (ACA), or infamously known as 'Obamacare' by conservatives, is one year old. We were told, if past would lead this nation towards socialism of Biblical Proportions. Obviously, that did not happen even in the remotest idea.... But, the GOP 'misinformation machine' has been steadily churning out crap and lies at the same rate as before the vote took place; And hasn't been helping them apparently. As Sen. John Boehner (aka Speaker of the House) stated in a recent tweet "1 yr later, job-crushing ObamaCare remains as unpopular as ever". He linked, according to The Rachael Maddow show a publication from CNN that stated Americans are more opposed to Health Care Reform then support it. Unfortunately for him, only conservatives seem to stupid to check the information for accuracy. Mr. Boehner apparently understands that conservatives are just to retarded to understand concepts related to the ACA (and he might be right....). According to the poll, a total of 56% of Americans oppose the ACA, while just 37% support it. What the Speaker of the House does not mention, is that 13% of that 56% oppose it on the grounds that its not enough. Meaning, a full 50% (37% + 13%) of those polled either like the law or want it improved on. Yet AGAIN, we catch the GOP in an open lie. And who are the ones STILL clueless about all this: conservatives. Info from CNN

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Affordable Care Act, 1 year later (3/24/2011 9:01:23 AM)
You have an odd definition of a "lie". Did he specify why its opposed? No. And why would you expect its socialist attributes to have manifested themselves when they havent taken effect yet? 10 years of taxes, 6 years of benefits. The proof of the disaster Obamacare represents is in the numbers: group nsurance premiums up 25-35%; individual policies no longer being issued or at 2-3x their rates prior to Obamacare; revised budget numbers showing as much as $2 trillion cost over 10 years; seniors unable to find doctors willing to treat Medicare patients...and a shortage in Medicare docs projected into the hundreds of thousands. Play whatever polling games you like, its a fucking disaster.

Louve00 -> RE: Affordable Care Act, 1 year later (3/24/2011 9:03:37 AM)
I read a very interesting article about the benefits seen by the Affordable Care Act....and debunking all the myths that were/are being passed around about it. For any who do care to read it the link is http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/03/aca_anniversary.html

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Affordable Care Act, 1 year later (3/24/2011 9:04:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Louve00 I read a very interesting article about the benefits seen by the Affordable Care Act....and debunking all the myths that were/are being passed around about it. For any who do care to read it the link is http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/03/aca_anniversary.html american progress, lmao.

mnottertail -> RE: Affordable Care Act, 1 year later (3/24/2011 9:07:42 AM)
The proof of the disaster Obamacare represents is in the numbers: group nsurance premiums up 25-35%; The numbers prior to the passage? individual policies no longer being issued or at 2-3x their rates prior to Obamacare; The numbers prior to the passage? revised budget numbers showing as much as $2 trillion cost over 10 years; From? never mind that the fact that you only believe the CBO when it favors you, and vehemently denounce it when it doesn't (but never actual citations) seniors unable to find doctors willing to treat Medicare patients... That is not a new phenomenon. But why? and a shortage in Medicare docs projected into the hundreds of thousands. The numbers prior? Play whatever polling games you like, its a fucking disaster. You too are a gamer and a disaster. No causal relationship demonstrated, you should read up on that, you don't have a clue about causality.

Louve00 -> RE: Affordable Care Act, 1 year later (3/24/2011 9:08:04 AM)
LOL

DomKen -> RE: Affordable Care Act, 1 year later (3/24/2011 10:19:25 AM)
Funny, I'm on Medicare and have absolutely no trouble finding doctors who will take it. As my transplant surgeon said, Medicare is more reliable and involves less interference than HMO's. The small business tax credit for providing health insurance has driven up demand enough that there are reports of the insurance companies hiring people so it seems the ACA is a job creation law.

mnottertail -> RE: Affordable Care Act, 1 year later (3/24/2011 10:20:38 AM)
It doesn't match with wilburs pull it out your ass numbers though, so it is a problem.

Hippiekinkster -> RE: Affordable Care Act, 1 year later (3/24/2011 2:05:58 PM)
Huh, my premium only went up 17% this year; the smallest increase since I had to modify my policy to make it affordable 4 years ago. More Horseshit from Wilbur.

mnottertail -> RE: Affordable Care Act, 1 year later (3/24/2011 2:09:50 PM)
undocumented horseshit: let's be perfectly punctillious here.

rulemylife -> RE: Affordable Care Act, 1 year later (3/24/2011 3:13:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy The proof of the disaster Obamacare represents is in the numbers: group nsurance premiums up 25-35%; individual policies no longer being issued or at 2-3x their rates prior to Obamacare; revised budget numbers showing as much as $2 trillion cost over 10 years; seniors unable to find doctors willing to treat Medicare patients...and a shortage in Medicare docs projected into the hundreds of thousands. What utter nonsense! I pay my own health insurance with Anthem BC/BS. I started my policy in 2006. Well before Obamacare ever existed my premiums were increasing by 25%-35% a year with no health problems.

slvemike4u -> RE: Affordable Care Act, 1 year later (3/24/2011 5:19:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Funny, I'm on Medicare and have absolutely no trouble finding doctors who will take it. As my transplant surgeon said, Medicare is more reliable and involves less interference than HMO's. The small business tax credit for providing health insurance has driven up demand enough that there are reports of the insurance companies hiring people so it seems the ACA is a job creation law. Allow me to echo that...also on Medicare...and also pleased with my coverage.

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