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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 10:38:30 AM   
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To bring things back on topic ...

It's hard to see a path to victory for Bachmann, given that she could never carry the middle or anyone who cares about facts (she's 0/19 on politifact at getting a Mostly True or True rating), and her target demographic is split with Huckabee and Palin anyways.  Intrade betting markets put her odds at 4.7%, which should still be way too high for a candidate who doesn't understand how marginal rates work[1], admits to violating federal law and encourages others to do the same[2], claims that Swine Flu only occurs under Democratic presidents[3] (and gets her facts wrong, shocker!), claimed the founding fathers abolished slavery[4], and didn't know where the Shot Heard Round the World was fired[5].  It's still amazing to me that she can win an election for dog catcher, let alone Congress.

1. http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/nov/17/michele-bachmann/michele-bachmann-250000-gross-sales-tax-increase/
2. http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jun/25/michele-bachmann/michelle-bachmann-claims-constitution-only-require/
3. http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/apr/30/michele-bachmann/michele-bachmann-wrong-70s-swine-flu-broke-our-/
4. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/25/anderson-cooper-bachmann-american-history_n_813695.html
5. http://news.bostonherald.com/news/politics/view/2011_0313bachmann_shot_misfires/


Her district is 5 miles north of my house. You'd be amazed at how many stupid, ignorant, semi-literate bumpkins there are in Minnesota. Sometimes when I'm driving down the street it's all I can do to keep from steering up on the sidewalk.


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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 10:58:01 AM   
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Panda, mnottertail (Ron) comes out with some outragious B.S. and talks like he comes from outter space a lot but he's "our" Bumpkin.
Also, Al Franken counted on the votes of those semi-literate bumpkins to get elected.

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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 11:10:47 AM   
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Panda, mnottertail (Ron) comes out with some outragious B.S. and talks like he comes from outter space a lot but he's "our" Bumpkin.
Also, Al Franken counted on the votes of those semi-literate bumpkins to get elected.


They're not the ones who voted for Franken, though. The Bachmann-heads went for his opponent, Coleman. Franken drew from the educated, upper-middle class portion of the electorate. I think a lot of us (myself included) are very surprised at what a good senator he's turning out to be.


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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 11:44:30 AM   
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Panda, mnottertail (Ron) comes out with some outragious B.S. and talks like he comes from outter space a lot but he's "our" Bumpkin.
Also, Al Franken counted on the votes of those semi-literate bumpkins to get elected.


They're not the ones who voted for Franken, though. The Bachmann-heads went for his opponent, Coleman. Franken drew from the educated, upper-middle class portion of the electorate. I think a lot of us (myself included) are very surprised at what a good senator he's turning out to be.



Panda, but there's a lot more, "stupid, un-educated bumpkins" than there are "educated upper middle class portion."
Now, if Franken is voting the way "The People" want him to vote and *not voting* the way "he" wants to vote, or voting on what "he" thinks is right or,.....worst of all; "voting my conscience" then he *will* be a good Senator.
Simple stuff, they're in office to vote the way their *constituents* want them to vote not the way they "think" they should vote or the way that big money "special interest groups" want them to vote..
Now here in S. Carolina there's a Yahoo site called "500,000 voters who want Lindsey Graham out of office" or something to that effect because he voted "for" "amnesty" for illegal aliens because a lot of his money comes from homebuilders, golf courses and other businesses that want to continue using cheap illegal alien labor. He wouldn't even talk about them! "That's not relevant" he told one reporter.
He had an absolute "nobody" run against him and the nobody got about 40% of the vote so he's extremely vulnerable in 2014!
Now Lindsey Graham is an example of a bad senator who doesn't *listen* to The People. And he's going to pay for it in 2014. All you have to do is mention his name here and people scowl.
I hope Al Franken does listen to The People and vote accordingly and he'll be a good senator.
It used to be that congressmen and senators would send survey forms out to all their constituents asking them what they thought on differant issues and after tabulating the figures that's how they'd vote.
I'd like to see that again in this country. How Democratic.
It's funny, Al Franken could be a much better senator than he ever was a "comedian."
I tried to watch him on a few occaisions and it was like watching paint dry.


P.S. When I lived in Massachusetts even the low i.q.'d Rep. "Fast Eddy" "The Ice Cream Man" Markey (D. 7th Ma.) sent those survey forms out.
You know who we never got one from? Ted Kennedy.

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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 12:08:13 PM   
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Panda, mnottertail (Ron) comes out with some outragious B.S. and talks like he comes from outter space a lot but he's "our" Bumpkin.
Also, Al Franken counted on the votes of those semi-literate bumpkins to get elected.


They're not the ones who voted for Franken, though. The Bachmann-heads went for his opponent, Coleman. Franken drew from the educated, upper-middle class portion of the electorate. I think a lot of us (myself included) are very surprised at what a good senator he's turning out to be.



Panda, but there's a lot more, "stupid, un-educated bumpkins" than there are "educated upper middle class portion."
Now, if Franken is voting the way "The People" want him to vote and *not voting* the way "he" wants to vote, or voting on what "he" thinks is right or,.....worst of all; "voting my conscience" then he *will* be a good Senator.
Simple stuff, they're in office to vote the way their *constituents* want them to vote not the way they "think" they should vote or the way that big money "special interest groups" want them to vote..
Now here in S. Carolina there's a Yahoo site called "500,000 voters who want Lindsey Graham out of office" or something to that effect because he voted "for" "amnesty" for illegal aliens because a lot of his money comes from homebuilders, golf courses and other businesses that want to continue using cheap illegal alien labor. He wouldn't even talk about them! "That's not relevant" he told one reporter.
He had an absolute "nobody" run against him and the nobody got about 40% of the vote so he's extremely vulnerable in 2014!
Now Lindsey Graham is an example of a bad senator who doesn't *listen* to The People. And he's going to pay for it in 2014. All you have to do is mention his name here and people scowl.
I hope Al Franken does listen to The People and vote accordingly and he'll be a good senator.
It used to be that congressmen and senators would send survey forms out to all their constituents asking them what they thought on differant issues and after tabulating the figures that's how they'd vote.
I'd like to see that again in this country. How Democratic.
It's funny, Al Franken could be a much better senator than he ever was a "comedian."
I tried to watch him on a few occaisions and it was like watching paint dry.


P.S. When I lived in Massachusetts even the low i.q.'d Rep. "Fast Eddy" "The Ice Cream Man" Markey (D. 7th Ma.) sent those survey forms out.
You know who we never got one from? Ted Kennedy.
You would be a great example of the color tinted line.
When educated people vote someone in to office they do not expect him to run a poll prior to voting on every issue.Rather they have taken the measure of the man prior to voting,satisfy themselves about his positions,his character and so forth....
Than at that point, they do in fact expect him to vote his conscience .An elected official,who is doing his job,can no more take his marching orders from, a fickle and easily mislead,public ...than take them from big business.
He is supposed to do what is right,as he see's it,Rather than what is expedient as some poll would determine it to be.


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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 12:10:16 PM   
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Nah mike, he should do a face book poll 5 minutes prior to the vote.

You need to catch up

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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 12:11:59 PM   
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It's funny, Al Franken could be a much better senator than he ever was a "comedian."
I tried to watch him on a few occaisions and it was like watching paint dry.



Oh, he is. I can't stand him as a comedian either, and frankly, from what I know of him, don't like him as a person. He's a mean, nasty, bitter little prick.

But he takes his job as a senator very seriously. He works harder than almost any other senator, often staying up until 3 or 4 AM to research and prepare for the next day's hearings, and - so far, anyway - dedicates himself to representing the interests of the people who elected him. I'm surprised, frankly. I didn't expect this from him, but so far, I like the way the guy does his job. And I wish more senators took the same approach.


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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 12:19:18 PM   
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Nah mike, he should do a face book poll 5 minutes prior to the vote.

You need to catch up

The world according to popeye...wherein elected officials march to the beat dictated by asshole as ignorant as he is.
What a fucking train wreck that would be.


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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 12:29:28 PM   
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"They have,......."taken the measure of the man."
Conservative Mike, you mean like Larry Craig?

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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 12:36:43 PM   
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no no he has to make all the decisions, ignore the other 329,999,999 people in the country
he is the only one that matters
never mind the UN treaties, the geneva convention, or any trade treaties goin on, he wont be happy till both borders are shooting and b lowing up anyone trying to get in,  he wants obama to stop all business going outside but wants no government regulations on big business's.
Fuck the world america is coming thru

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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 12:37:00 PM   
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Uh,pops...he's one of yours(by that I mean an actual Republican,not one who claims to be an Independent...lol)by the way...the system worked there....he is out ,isn't he ?


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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 12:43:05 PM   
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Uh,pops...he's one of yours(by that I mean an actual Republican,not one who claims to be an Independent...lol)by the way...the system worked there....he is out ,isn't he ?



You know Conservative Mike, any communication between a senator or congressman and their constituents *would* be a bad thing wouldn't it?
There should only be communication between them and lobbyists, right?

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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 12:47:33 PM   
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Typical pops..take a well reason description on how representative gov't actually works....and distort it to an extreme position.
Good luck with your myopia .


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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 12:55:04 PM   
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Typical pops..take a well reason description on how representative gov't actually works....and distort it to an extreme position.
Good luck with your myopia .




Maybe I should start calling you "Swerve".

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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 1:03:54 PM   
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Call me whatever the fuck you like...you have gone so far round the bend  ,further silliness on your part hardly matters.


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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 1:18:17 PM   
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Call me whatever the fuck you like...you have gone so far round the bend  ,further silliness on your part hardly matters.




Saul Alinski; "when you start losing call them crazy."

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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 2:12:46 PM   
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There you go pops...resorting to quotes from Saul Alinski.....someone you admitted, in a thread you just started ,you know nothing about.
Get help pops...surely there are resources available to you at the VA,might be a better use of your time than sitting in the VFW feeding your psychosis.


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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 3:12:39 PM   
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Now, if Franken is voting the way "The People" want him to vote and *not voting* the way "he" wants to vote, or voting on what "he" thinks is right or,.....worst of all; "voting my conscience" then he *will* be a good Senator.



You do understand we have a representative government?

That means our representatives are elected to vote what they think is right.

Otherwise we would have no need for representatives and everything would have to be decided by a direct vote.

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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 3:18:57 PM   
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Now, if Franken is voting the way "The People" want him to vote and *not voting* the way "he" wants to vote, or voting on what "he" thinks is right or,.....worst of all; "voting my conscience" then he *will* be a good Senator.



You do understand we have a representative government?

That means our representatives are elected to vote what they think is right.

Otherwise we would have no need for representatives and everything would have to be decided by a direct vote.

Scroll up a bit RML,I went over this with him...didn't make a dent,pschosis is a powerful foe indeed.


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RE: Is Michelle Bachman running for president? - 3/27/2011 3:28:22 PM   
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There you go pops...resorting to quotes from Saul Alinski.....someone you admitted, in a thread you just started ,you know nothing about.
Get help pops...surely there are resources available to you at the VA,might be a better use of your time than sitting in the VFW feeding your psychosis.


Poopey was saying Alinsky was one of them eeevil Marxists as well. Surely anything somebody like that has to say must be leftist bullshit, and not worth quoting? Alinsky probably thinks they should allow mulattos in the white house, after all...

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