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MrRodgers -> RE: Fareed Zakariah on Obama's Libya strategy. (3/25/2011 11:18:33 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Sanity
You know that when you write & co, the & co would include 99% of Democrats who voted for and argued for and voted to fund and who are now running both of those wars.
And not incidentally its highly ironic to see an Obama supporting leftist trying to cast aspersions on so-called 'warmongers' as Obama commits our military to intervene in the internal affairs of a sovereign nation which poses no imminent threat to the U.S.
Its also fun to note that there were a lot more coalition members in Bushs coalition than there are in Obamas, and without the Superpowers fingerprints all over it it couldnt even happen
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Well Bush & Co. reflecting their overall incompetence will have Afghan. and Iraq go down as two of the most bumbled, extended intentionally long term fiascoes in American military and foreign policy history.
It going to be all but impossible to match those unnecessary wars for profit and hegemony. So now we have the partisan, hypocritical Monday quarterbacking by the right. It would be funny if not so tragic.
Obama knows that after Bush, the US cannot yet again so soon...act unilaterally (coalitions ? hardly) and must allow these uprisings to be seen as wholly home grown. All of this crap about the French 'leading' and the UK jumping on being a problem is obviously partisan ridiculousness because the US is forced, thanx to Bush, to make clear this is not simply just...a US action.
That's too difficult for the knee-jerk warmongers to understand but this Lybia mission cannot have the superpowers' finger prints all over it.
The facts of the matter are that Bush lies to Powell who he dispatched to give a speech to the UN...full of lies. Powell has admitted as much. Got UN acquiescence because of our power and the UK et al jumping on board.
Then it took several votes and more bullshit to get a majority and then they didn't vote for such unabashed incompetence in the CPA etc. the discovery of which soon had the right wingnuts proclaim Hillary and the rest not as dissidents, not as loyal opposition but as...traitors no less. Does that make C. Powell a traitor ? Plus, the right takes Reagan off the hook for acting unilaterally why...because Grenada and Panama and Lebanon were not powers at all ?
I am not a left wing Obama supporter BTW, I am an independent old-school conservative who has a growing and depressing view of all of Wash., and because in fact presidents are hardly in charge of the big decisions some of which has us spending untold $Trillions on wars we don't need. A real conservative and everyone I've talked to agreed we should be in NO wars and never should have bought into the 'war on terror' bullshit..
The neocons have set the entire stage from which America will not now or anytime in the foreseeable future, be able to extricate itself. My whole point is the hypocritical Monday morning quarterbacking from today's right. Gingrich being one darling of the right to change his tune 180 degrees in what 7-8 days ?
I long for the conservatism that polled twice in the 80% against us getting involved in WWI or II both of which were set-ups. Like I've written, what we see today is not your father's republican party.
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