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Prostitution laws - 3/27/2011 10:54:29 PM

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There's a thread down in P&R touching on the topic of prostitution, and it gave me the idea for this thread.

In Canada, prostitution itself is not illegal, what is illegal is "communicating for the purposes of prostitution". Thus its OK to charge money for sex, its just not OK to ask how much, or to name a price. I have no idea why they framed the law in such a strange manner...but they did.

So what exactly are the laws regarding prostitution where you live? Are they straight forward, or are they bizarrely worded like the Canadian law?

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RE: Prostitution laws - 3/27/2011 11:20:30 PM

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I was just thinking about writing up a similar subject today. Different slant. There are a couple of threads right now where folks are giving the advice of "get a hooker" without knowing what the possible legal ramifications entail. It's silly and short-sighted. I'm not going to jail over a fuck. I don't think a lot of other folks are willing to risk it, either.

I'm not terribly familiar with the prostitution laws in My location. I know that they do target Johns and have sting operations to bust them. I find that better than just going after the prostitutes.

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RE: Prostitution laws - 3/28/2011 1:04:36 AM

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I'm not terribly familiar with the prostitution laws in My location. I know that they do target Johns and have sting operations to bust them. I find that better than just going after the prostitutes.

<disclaimer> I don't actually believe in the illegality of prostitutes, drugs, etc. Just to put my remarks in context.</disclaimer>

Not sure how you mean the word "better" but to me it seems like it would be very similar to the drug trade - one prostitute is servicing many clients the same way one dealer sells to many buyers. Hence, removing the dealer/hooker eliminates a larger swath of the trade than eliminating a single buyer/john. By the same token, removing the pimp would be analogous to removing the higher-ups in a given distribution scheme, and would cause disorder and disruption of supply to all below him. Hence, the higher up the supply chain you can go the more impact you have on the trade.

Do you disagree with the efficiency of that model of drug enforcement, or is there a distinction I'm missing?

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RE: Prostitution laws - 3/28/2011 3:57:41 AM

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It's worded pretty clear here. What I did find interesting is that the punishment for the John is double the punishment for the hooker. First time prostitute gets $500 fine and or 6 months in jail. First time John gets $1000 fine and or 1 year.

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RE: Prostitution laws - 3/28/2011 9:02:36 AM

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Thanks peppermint, that's sort of interesting. I'm not sure of it, but I would have thought it would be the other way round. Cool.

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RE: Prostitution laws - 3/28/2011 9:14:42 AM

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I just tried to see what the laws here are and all I could find were ads for lawyers.. *sigh*

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RE: Prostitution laws - 3/28/2011 9:20:28 AM

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<disclaimer> I don't actually believe in the illegality of prostitutes, drugs, etc. Just to put my remarks in context.</disclaimer>

Not sure how you mean the word "better" but to me it seems like it would be very similar to the drug trade - one prostitute is servicing many clients the same way one dealer sells to many buyers. Hence, removing the dealer/hooker eliminates a larger swath of the trade than eliminating a single buyer/john. By the same token, removing the pimp would be analogous to removing the higher-ups in a given distribution scheme, and would cause disorder and disruption of supply to all below him. Hence, the higher up the supply chain you can go the more impact you have on the trade.

Do you disagree with the efficiency of that model of drug enforcement, or is there a distinction I'm missing?

Part of what drives prostitution in the first place is supply and demand. While the demand is similar to the drug trade, supply is not. Literally, if you bust the prostitute without dealing with the customers, you're not doing the same thing as nailing the source for the drugs. All that needs to happen is the John goes and gets the next woman willing to sell sex for money.

What was happening for far too long was that only the prostitutes were the ones that were busted, even though the law was being broken by both parties. Very much like you describe in the model above. Since she was the 'seller' they were only arresting her and the 'buyer' was getting off scott-free. A very unfair application of the law, in My opinion. The attitude was that it was the prostitute's fault, but that's not entirely true. Especially when it's the John's that create the market in the first place.

I hope that explains Me position on the matter a bit better.

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RE: Prostitution laws - 3/28/2011 9:25:47 AM

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I just tried to see what the laws here are and all I could find were ads for lawyers.. *sigh*

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RE: Prostitution laws - 3/28/2011 9:28:14 AM

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So what exactly are the laws regarding prostitution where you live? Are they straight forward, or are they bizarrely worded like the Canadian law?

Prostitution law in Arkansas for your interpretation: http://prostitution.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=724

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RE: Prostitution laws - 3/28/2011 10:11:10 AM

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Prostitution is legal in Germany. There are however some regulations, mostly concerning so called "Sperrbezirke", which you could like to zoning laws.

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RE: Prostitution laws - 3/28/2011 1:59:57 PM

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Not sure about every state in Australia but prostitution was decriminalised in New South Wales (NSW - capital Sydney) about 8 or 10 years ago. And I applaud that even though I'm not one whose ever taken up the "service"....

Reasons for repealing the laws were that (non violent) prostitution was largely a victimless crime or that in many instances the prostitute herself would become a victim of violence in between being charged as a working-girl offender.

But the police can and do crack down on where prostitutes solicit - esp openly in suburban neighbourhoods or conjested roads where accidents can arise.

But this thread seems as much centred on bizarre laws and I'm sure we have our share. I remember about 3 decades ago when I invested my then limited funds on some rather huge mag wheels and tyres for my muscle car. Bought them all legally from a reputable tyre mart etc - only to get booked and defected for them. Seems it was legal for the dealers to sell them to the public but NOT legal for the public to drive on the roads with them.

Sheesh! The law never seems to miss an opportunity to be an ass, no matter where you live....

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