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ORIGINAL: liks2plzlf

Sooner than we think

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

This is what you all get for reading a book without a happy ending.

Treasure, Afghanistan and Libya are not in the middle east. They are also neither north or south of Israel.

Seriously... does it really matter?  Do you think that modern day geographical boundaries were of much consideration when the prophesies were penned?  Is nit-picking your only joy in life? 

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

This is what you all get for reading a book without a happy ending.

Treasure, Afghanistan and Libya are not in the middle east. They are also neither north or south of Israel.

Seriously... does it really matter?  Do you think that modern day geographical boundaries were of much consideration when the prophesies were penned?  Is nit-picking your only joy in life? 

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I really can't make up my mind... which link is loonier - the OP link or this doozy!

Should we have a poll on it? ... Or just declare a draw and hope they all go somewhere far far away? Antarctica suggests itself ....... or Pluto or Mars ......

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

This is what you all get for reading a book without a happy ending.

Treasure, Afghanistan and Libya are not in the middle east. They are also neither north or south of Israel.

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

This is what you all get for reading a book without a happy ending.

Treasure, Afghanistan and Libya are not in the middle east. They are also neither north or south of Israel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East

The definition of the middle east is not specifically geographical. Afghanistan and Libya are noted as members of the Greater Middle East.

As well, Israel is defined as lying on a latitude of 31 degrees north, while Libya lies at 25 degrees north. Afghanistan lies on a latitude of 33 degrees north. One doesn't even have to drop to nitpicking technicalities to point out that 25 degrees lies south of 31 degrees, while 33 lies north of it.

Kind of like saying South America is south of North America. While the longitude varies significantly, one is north of the other.

All of which is on a wild tangent to the OP.

In regards to the OP, allowing Iran to gain nuclear capability will certainly go a long way towards creating end times conditions for a lot of people.

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

This is what you all get for reading a book without a happy ending.

Treasure, Afghanistan and Libya are not in the middle east. They are also neither north or south of Israel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East

The definition of the middle east is not specifically geographical. Afghanistan and Libya are noted as members of the Greater Middle East.

As well, Israel is defined as lying on a latitude of 31 degrees north, while Libya lies at 25 degrees north. Afghanistan lies on a latitude of 33 degrees north. One doesn't even have to drop to nitpicking technicalities to point out that 25 degrees lies south of 31 degrees, while 33 lies north of it.

Kind of like saying South America is south of North America. While the longitude varies significantly, one is north of the other.

All of which is on a wild tangent to the OP.

In regards to the OP, allowing Iran to gain nuclear capability will certainly go a long way towards creating end times conditions for a lot of people.

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

Hatred of Bush does not make a definition true or untrue.

The fact of the matter is, polite sub attempted to shit all over a post by first issuing his trademark snide comment, then making vague assertions as fact. While in reality, the lines drawn are such that both positions can be considered true based upon interpretation.

In other words, we're back at pointless arguing over someone's attempt to be shitty. You can defend that if you want, especially if plays to your dislike of Bush or Republicans. I'm all for making someone's day better. If it takes that for you, have at it.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

Hatred of Bush does not make a definition true or untrue.

The fact of the matter is, polite sub attempted to shit all over a post by first issuing his trademark snide comment, then making vague assertions as fact. While in reality, the lines drawn are such that both positions can be considered true based upon interpretation.

In other words, we're back at pointless arguing over someone's attempt to be shitty. You can defend that if you want, especially if plays to your dislike of Bush or Republicans. I'm all for making someone's day better. If it takes that for you, have at it.

No, we are back at you trying to bullshit your way through something when you know you are wrong.

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

Actually rule, I'm wading through bullshit. You want to argue with definitions, then argue with the people who made them and those who propagate them. In case you don't understand that line, go piss all over Wiki folks for including it in their definition of the middle east and get Bush banned from history.

What is hilarious is that in this progressive mindset, you will only accept the traditional definition because it fits your stance of the moment.

I don't think you understand right from wrong. I think you only understand liberal and conservative.

Go feel better about yourself. 

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

Actually rule, I'm wading through bullshit. You want to argue with definitions, then argue with the people who made them and those who propagate them. In case you don't understand that line, go piss all over Wiki folks for including it in their definition of the middle east and get Bush banned from history.

What is hilarious is that in this progressive mindset, you will only accept the traditional definition because it fits your stance of the moment.

I don't think you understand right from wrong. I think you only understand liberal and conservative.

Go feel better about yourself. 

I know you're wading through bullshit, of your own making.

You post a ridiculous Wiki article which has a a link to it that contradicts the article itself.

But here you are, back on the podium lecturing about how you stand above the crowd.

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

Actually rule, I'm wading through bullshit. You want to argue with definitions, then argue with the people who made them and those who propagate them. In case you don't understand that line, go piss all over Wiki folks for including it in their definition of the middle east and get Bush banned from history.

What is hilarious is that in this progressive mindset, you will only accept the traditional definition because it fits your stance of the moment.

I don't think you understand right from wrong. I think you only understand liberal and conservative.

Go feel better about yourself. 

I know you're wading through bullshit, of your own making.

You post a ridiculous Wiki article which has a a link to it that contradicts the article itself.

But here you are, back on the podium lecturing about how you stand above the crowd.

The only contradiction is in your mind. As I said before "the lines drawn are such that both positions can be considered true based upon interpretation"

That's lecturing huh? Maybe to the idiots of the world. Reasonable folk understand that either point can be valid based upon the interpretation, wherein the derisive and belittling comment that followed one interpretation attempted to establish as fact two fallacies - one pertaining to direction, the other pertaining to inclusiveness.

So pull out a globe, preferably one with big lines and find those marked latitude and follow them. Then keep roiling in your rabid frenzy of gotta hate Bush over the term Greater Middle East and it's established definition. Like it or not, it exists and is used.

Fuckin sucks don't it?

This kind of crazy shit is why posting here is a waste of effort and time. I can imagine froth beading on your forehead. It's just gotta be uncool.

Besides, I have better things to do today. Gotta get ready for 12 days of sun and fun and travel.

Later

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Meanwhile people the gold that YOU own at Fort Knox has been looted.

WAKE UP!