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ORIGINAL: SirRussellP Posts: 99 Joined: 1/10/2006 Status: offline I can't speak to what old guard means in the military since I was speaking of bdsm OG. Old Guard was started by a group of gay black man that served in the World War and found the lifestyle in Europe. They came back here to the US and continued forming a BDSM based on a sort of military order structure. You started as a sub and learned to serve until you earned your leather, this is also one of the start of the leatherman. I doubt that most of the answers here were either done with honor or with any real knowledge. Oh and before the net people did know more then just bedroom M/s. Though at the moment it seems that it is just easier to be like children that think they know it all. If that sound like a person that understands more then chatroom D/s it is because I do. Russell Excuse My french, but bullshit. You're not the only person on these boards who was involved in M/s before they were on the net. I've got no problem respecting those who are senior leathermen than Me, but that doesn't mean that I'm not going to stand up and tell someone when they are trying to pull the high and mighty crap. Yes, there was a time that a person could only earn their leathers if they fit into certain categories. They did have to serve under someone else first. Yes, they had to be men. That was sixty years ago. Times have changed since sixty years ago and there isn't a soul on these boards (that I'm aware of) who has been doing wiitwd that long. If you have, you look damn good for eighty. If you actually preferred the days that straight people couldn't adopt a leather lifestyle or that the only Masters were men, I'm more than happy to tell you that you can have it. Thankfully, I don't run into such attitudes in the leather community and I am afforded the same respect as any other person who has their place in it. I can promise you that the leather that I earned is just as valuable to Me as yours are to you. With that, I will wish you a good day and give My best regards to you and your household. I must have missed something in this thread, I cannot see what your response had to do with his post. He stated what I have also read about the origins of Old Guard Leathermen (except for the "black" description) and then gave a personal opinion on the quality of the posts here. I cannot see what the "yes, there was a time that a person could..." comment you made has to directly do with his post and when did he express an opinion that "he preferred the days that straight people couldn't ...."?
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