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GOP Budget for 2012 - 4/3/2011 12:15:47 AM   
joether


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Among other retarded concepts the Republicans are working on, here's what's coming down the pipeline for Medicare and Medicaid: Source

If what is being shown is correct, three things come to mind:

1) The GOP really does, STILL, represent the upper 2% of Americans (read: filthy rich).

2) The cuts only serve to cost more Americans their jobs. I guess they've fogotten WHY they were elected to office in 2010. That's ok, in 2012, we can vote them out of office all the same.

3) A bunch of rich Republicans deciding over the fate of tens of millions of middle and poor class citizens. Its 'good' to know that class warfeare is alive and well in the USA...

Never seems to cross the minds of the 'rank and file' conservatives, how much a $100 Billion buys in US Jobs. All that money that would have gone towards the middle class workers, will instead be funneled (unknowningly) to the filthy rich in the country. Why would the GOP do something that benefits the bottom 98% of Americans financially?

It really does amaze me, how a whole segment of the US population, so upset over the budget deficit, can't put 2+2 together and arrive at 4. Do away with the Bush era tax cuts; problem solved over night.

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RE: GOP Budget for 2012 - 4/3/2011 12:30:27 AM   
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OK, I kick the legs out of partisanians no matter which side.

Tell me this, when was the last regime that in this country, imposed a very heavy tax on the rich and let the poor go scot free ? Did Clinton do it ? Did Carter do it ?

Keep up the partisan bullshit and "they" will be happy with you. they might reward you, if they gain power. If you know them, suggest they run someone with a brain. I can see these assholes all day long on the TV news. Anchormen. That's all they are.

No President can do anything, once they get you in that room and you realize your very life depends on "them" you know what you will do, as did Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama. I expected a bit more from Obama, because of the racial situation, and that's why I supported him. I thought he might have some balls. I shoulda known better. Once they get you in that room.

If we ever get a real wiseguy in there, he will have his own protection - FROM the SS and the CIA. I would. They don't because they are part of the system, part of the problem.

T^T

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RE: GOP Budget for 2012 - 4/3/2011 12:44:11 AM   
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John Steinbeck said it best in 1920...."The reason why the poor will never rise up against the rich is that the poor do not see themselves as poor. Merely they are millionaires suffering a temporary financial embarrassment."

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RE: GOP Budget for 2012 - 4/3/2011 1:04:26 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Tell me this, when was the last regime that in this country, imposed a very heavy tax on the rich and let the poor go scot free ? Did Clinton do it ? Did Carter do it ?


The last time the tax burden shifted towards the rich was probably under Eisenhower, right after World War Two, when the country was in a deeper debt hole (adjusted for GDP growth) then we are today.  To get the debt under control, the top marginal rate was increased to 94%.  Unlike in the alternate universe conservatives believe in, such a high marginal rate did not cripple our economy, and the debt to gdp ratio fell steadily until Reagan took office.  Tax changes since then:





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RE: GOP Budget for 2012 - 4/3/2011 1:04:35 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
OK, I kick the legs out of partisanians no matter which side.

Tell me this, when was the last regime that in this country, imposed a very heavy tax on the rich and let the poor go scot free ? Did Clinton do it ? Did Carter do it ?

Keep up the partisan bullshit and "they" will be happy with you. they might reward you, if they gain power. If you know them, suggest they run someone with a brain. I can see these assholes all day long on the TV news. Anchormen. That's all they are.

No President can do anything, once they get you in that room and you realize your very life depends on "them" you know what you will do, as did Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama. I expected a bit more from Obama, because of the racial situation, and that's why I supported him. I thought he might have some balls. I shoulda known better. Once they get you in that room.

If we ever get a real wiseguy in there, he will have his own protection - FROM the SS and the CIA. I would. They don't because they are part of the system, part of the problem.


Hey Termie!

So your answer is just to 'throw your hands up in the air and give up without a fight'? I wouldn't count Mr. Obama out just yet. If he had more support, I think we'd find much more in the way of solutions out of him. The President didn't do the Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2008 cus 'he wanted to do it for the hell of it'; there were some really SERIOUS pressing matters on the nation at the time. He made a gamble, and it worked out pretty well in the nation's favor (we aren't in a Depression, right?). Could it have gone bad, yes, though I'm guessing the chance of that was much lower.

I'm pointing out in the source about, is from the Republican House. You know, the folks who told us US Jobs was their #1 task if they got elected back in November of 2010? Here we are, fouth month in, and still no real plan for developing jobs or, failing that, maintaining the jobs we have now. Slashing the budget, in my opinion, will cost us more jobs then make (truely and honestly, Termie). Vast sums of people really just dont understand what $100 Billion buys us as a nation in US Jobs. I'm not talking those who benefit directly, but indirectly (all those people have to buy groceirs, cars, houses, and cat litter).

It just doesn't make sense to me, that during a recession, with unemployment so high across all sectors, that we actively go about increasing the problem rather then diminishing it. Rather then slashing the budget, maintain it as it is now. Yes, I can understand if that doesn't sound 'correct' or 'logical' to you. Keeping the funding were it is, maintains the jobs; which is something we should be striving in the long run. When the economy gets better, THEN, lets chat cutting the budget. We'll have money flowing in, helping to pay down the debt over a number of years, and building up a store for the next recession (cus it will happen, that's just the nature of economics). Just make sure you come to the table seeking cuts from the stuff you want AND the stuff you dont want (but think the folks on the other side of the table would seek).

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RE: GOP Budget for 2012 - 4/3/2011 6:14:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

OK, I kick the legs out of partisanians no matter which side.

Tell me this, when was the last regime that in this country, imposed a very heavy tax on the rich and let the poor go scot free ? Did Clinton do it ? Did Carter do it ?

Keep up the partisan bullshit and "they" will be happy with you. they might reward you, if they gain power. If you know them, suggest they run someone with a brain. I can see these assholes all day long on the TV news. Anchormen. That's all they are.

No President can do anything, once they get you in that room and you realize your very life depends on "them" you know what you will do, as did Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama. I expected a bit more from Obama, because of the racial situation, and that's why I supported him. I thought he might have some balls. I shoulda known better. Once they get you in that room.

If we ever get a real wiseguy in there, he will have his own protection - FROM the SS and the CIA. I would. They don't because they are part of the system, part of the problem.

T^T


Clinton did it. Don't lie just cause you are trying to make a point.

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RE: GOP Budget for 2012 - 4/3/2011 7:28:41 PM   
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Clinton did it. Don't lie just cause you are trying to make a point.

To my knowledge also J. Carter. Reagan did the cutting. Both Reagan cuts and Clinton increases policies worked. The rich did not care about Clinton tax increases as they made a fortune off the high tech revolution, outsourcing and general financial liberalization (read speculation).

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