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Study: Lesbians' Brains React Differently - 5/8/2006 2:27:29 PM   
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WASHINGTON - Lesbians' brains react differently to sex hormones than those of heterosexual women, new research indicates. That's in line with an earlier study that had indicated gay men's brain responses were different from straight men — though the difference for men was more pronounced than has now been found in women.
Lesbians' brains reacted somewhat, though not completely, like those of heterosexual men, a team of Swedish researchers said in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
A year ago, the same group reported findings for gay men that showed their brain response to hormones was similar to that of heterosexual women.
In both cases the findings add weight to the idea that homosexuality has a physical basis and is not learned behavior.
"It shows sexual orientation may very well have a different basis between men and women ... this is not just a mirror image situation," said Sandra Witelson, an expert on brain anatomy and sexual orientation at the Michael G. DeGroote School of Medicine at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario.
"The important thing is to be open to the likely situation that there are biological factors that contribute to sexual orientation," added Witelson, who was not part of the research team.
The research team led by Ivanka Savic at the Stockholm Brain Institute had volunteers sniff chemicals derived from male and female sex hormones. These chemicals are thought to be pheromones — molecules known to trigger responses such as defense and sex in many animals.
Whether humans respond to pheromones has been debated, although in 2000 American researchers reported finding a gene that they believe directs a human pheromone receptor in the nose.
The same team reported last year on a comparison of the response of male homosexuals to heterosexual men and women. They found that the brains of gay men reacted more like those of women than of straight men.
The new study shows a similar, but weaker, relationship between the response of lesbians and straight men.
Heterosexual women found the male and female pheromones about equally pleasant, while straight men and lesbians liked the female pheromone more than the male one. Men and lesbians also found the male hormone more irritating than the female one, while straight women were more likely to be irritated by the female hormone than the male one.
All three groups rated the male hormone more familiar than the female one. Straight women found both hormones about equal in intensity, while lesbians and straight men found the male hormone more intense than the female one.
The brains of all three groups were scanned when sniffing male and female hormones and a set of four ordinary odors. Ordinary odors were processed in the brain circuits associated with smell in all the volunteers.
In heterosexual males the male hormone was processed in the scent area but the female hormone was processed in the hypothalamus, which is related to sexual stimulation. In straight women the sexual area of the brain responded to the male hormone while the female hormone was perceived by the scent area.
In lesbians, both male and female hormones were processed the same, in the basic odor processing circuits, Savic and her team reported.
Each of the three groups of subjects included 12 healthy, unmedicated, right-handed and HIV-negative individuals.
The research was funded by the Swedish Medical Research Council, Karolinska Institute and the Wallenberg Foundation.

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RE: Study: Lesbians' Brains React Differently - 5/8/2006 3:47:43 PM   
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I've never thought homosexuality was learnt behaviour. My best friend when I was young was brought up in the same environment as me which was a macho mining community. If homosexuality was socialised behaviour, god knows where he learnt it from, not that he was bullied, despite liberal beliefs that such environments are Neanderthal, in my experience they are more tolerant and protective and my friend would agree. We all knew he was gay years before he came out. He said in the pub once, he started to wear flambouyant clothing to ease his way into coming out in public. We said he was wasting his time because we thought he just had a lousy dress sense. 

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RE: Study: Lesbians' Brains React Differently - 5/8/2006 7:07:49 PM   
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Just so you know, quoting AP press releases in their entirety is illegal and this is the second time you have placed Collar Me in serious jeopardy.

Other than that, the article is not really telling us much that we did not already know.  We know that being homosexual is not a conscious choice.  Acting on it is, however.

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RE: Study: Lesbians' Brains React Differently - 5/8/2006 7:41:38 PM   
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Just so you know, quoting AP press releases in their entirety is illegal and this is the second time you have placed Collar Me in serious jeopardy.

Other than that, the article is not really telling us much that we did not already know.  We know that being homosexual is not a conscious choice.  Acting on it is, however.
  

Serious jeopardy? A bit alarmist to say the least. 47 million AP articles are reposted every hour. But I'm sure you can provide evidence of its illegality, just for confirmation purposes of course. Besides, I left out a comma.
I am however so happy that every single person on this site already knew this. Did you conduct a poll, do you know them all personally or was it the Vulcan Mind Meld? I also would that state that anyone (het, bi, gay, lez) acting on their sexual urges is indeed a conscious choice, so not sure where you are going with that one. Anyhow, thanks for playing.

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RE: Study: Lesbians' Brains React Differently - 5/8/2006 8:11:41 PM   
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I didnt know that !!!!

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RE: Study: Lesbians' Brains React Differently - 5/8/2006 8:30:50 PM   
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This is far from the first forum site I have been on.  I have seen the legal letters from Associated Press threatening board owners with legal action, yes, suing them, for reposting AP articles.

Just because they are reposted does not make it legal, and as such considering your general ignorance and lack of consideration for other people and their copyrights I have reported you to the staff.

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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

Just so you know, quoting AP press releases in their entirety is illegal and this is the second time you have placed Collar Me in serious jeopardy.

Other than that, the article is not really telling us much that we did not already know.  We know that being homosexual is not a conscious choice.  Acting on it is, however.
  

Serious jeopardy? A bit alarmist to say the least. 47 million AP articles are reposted every hour. But I'm sure you can provide evidence of its illegality, just for confirmation purposes of course. Besides, I left out a comma.
I am however so happy that every single person on this site already knew this. Did you conduct a poll, do you know them all personally or was it the Vulcan Mind Meld? I also would that state that anyone (het, bi, gay, lez) acting on their sexual urges is indeed a conscious choice, so not sure where you are going with that one. Anyhow, thanks for playing.


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RE: Study: Lesbians' Brains React Differently - 5/8/2006 8:41:02 PM   
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Other than that, the article is not really telling us much that we did not already know.  We know that being homosexual is not a conscious choice.  Acting on it is, however.


Hmmmm....  I've never really understood that "acting on it" caveat.  Is that supposed to mean that even though people of a homosexual nature are wired to be attracted to, and fall in love with, people of the same sex, that they are supposed to ignore that and either be chaste or "act straight".  Just wondering ....


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RE: Study: Lesbians' Brains React Differently - 5/8/2006 8:53:40 PM   
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*Kicks back with a brew, watches the legality debate*

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RE: Study: Lesbians' Brains React Differently - 5/8/2006 10:44:21 PM   
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This is far from the first forum site I have been on.  I have seen the legal letters from Associated Press threatening board owners with legal action, yes, suing them, for reposting AP articles.
Just because they are reposted does not make it legal, and as such considering your general ignorance and lack of consideration for other people and their copyrights I have reported you to the staff.

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Copyright © 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. The information contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.

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Good job. Next week you will be promoted to hall monitor. So one quick question, how do you know I don't have written permission? With your general ignorance for all you know I actually work for AP. With your lack of consideration and a clue what makes you think you have the authority to question me about my job, sources or whom I have authorization from?

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RE: Study: Lesbians' Brains React Differently - 5/9/2006 5:26:41 AM   
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To even waste time asking a question like that presumes that I must be some kind of idiot.

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RE: Study: Lesbians' Brains React Differently - 5/9/2006 5:28:02 AM   
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Other than that, the article is not really telling us much that we did not already know.  We know that being homosexual is not a conscious choice.  Acting on it is, however.


Hmmmm....  I've never really understood that "acting on it" caveat.  Is that supposed to mean that even though people of a homosexual nature are wired to be attracted to, and fall in love with, people of the same sex, that they are supposed to ignore that and either be chaste or "act straight".  Just wondering ....



It depends on your viewpoint.  If you go from a strictly Biblical standpoint then yes, you are supposed to ignore it.  The general premise is that nobody is tempted beyond that which they are able.

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RE: Study: Lesbians' Brains React Differently - 5/9/2006 7:09:23 AM   
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I was just thinking. Seeing as how you demonstrated your ignorance to the legalities of AP reproduction, the chances of you actually working for them are nil.  They pursue copyright infringement with agression and actively move to sue and shut boards down that are violating their copyrights.  You did not know that and even asked for proof.  I have seen the proof, inlcuding letters they have written from their Law department.  You do not care about other people's rights, as long as you satisfy your own need for attention.

Just be warned, AP has their ways of finding out.  I have seen concrete proof of this.  If nothing else, try to be respectful to other people, especially to the owners of CM.  You do not HAVE to put them in "harm's way" to make your point.  All you have to do is post a link.

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RE: Study: Lesbians' Brains React Differently - 5/9/2006 8:57:14 AM   
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I would like to bestow on you a grey wet blanket from the WET BLANKET SOCIETY. Congratulations, you've earned it!

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RE: Study: Lesbians' Brains React Differently - 5/9/2006 1:23:36 PM   
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I would like to thank you for bestowing upon Me such an honour. Now, do not get Me wrong, I do not give a shit one way or the other, but it is indeed flattering of you to think of Me.



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RE: Study: Lesbians' Brains React Differently - 5/9/2006 1:28:46 PM   
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I agree with Kenin that just posting a link, instead of reposting the entire article, is sufficient.

I do not agree with Kenin that the article doesn't say much we don't already "know."

Nor do I agree with the implication that gay sex is a sin.

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RE: Study: Lesbians' Brains React Differently - 5/9/2006 1:46:01 PM   
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To quote billy joel...." i'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints"


I also considered posting on the subject of that article after i read it this morning, i had no knowledge of previous studies regarding this...nor  did i have a strong opinion either way in regards to the  "nature or nurture" aspect of homosexuality I feel like i'm  more informed  as a result.

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RE: Study: Lesbians' Brains React Differently - 5/9/2006 1:56:45 PM   
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So what about bixexuals....what do their brains say? :-)

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RE: Study: Lesbians' Brains React Differently - 5/9/2006 1:58:56 PM   
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probably along the lines of WOOHOO!  So many to do and so little time.......

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