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tweakabelle -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 4:56:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

FR

BTW... I find it incredible that people say the leader of a theocratic nation state with nuclear capabilities should not be taken seriously 

Ahmadingo has "nuclear capablilities"? FDD must know something no one else in the world knows. Even the most paranoid Israeli guesses still have an Iranian nuclear weapon a few years away ....

And all that assumes that the Iranians actually are making nuclear weapons, which is a long way from a proven proposition at this point in time. My apologies for disrupting a good bit of scare-mongering with some facts .....




Politesub53 -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 4:58:20 PM)

Fdd makes it up as he goes along Tweaks.




Politesub53 -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 5:03:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Not that I have to defend myself, but I am not a neo-con nor a Republican.

I am a registered Democrat and long time Conservative.

BUT go head assume, and call names slave, its what liberals do best.



Incroyable mon ami. I find it hard to believe a registered anything knocks the party he is registered with on a continual basis.




flcouple2009 -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 5:16:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Not true,I for one never ever listen to him.Haven't seen him since he took shots at McNabb [:)]


Oh Fuck I hated having to listen to him on ESPN.  I would change the channel whenever he started yapping. 

Lucky for me he stayed true to form, said something stupid and that was the end.

I've never "listened " to his radio show.  Once upon a time in the late 80's I got stuck listening sometimes because of other people. 

It's been at least 20 years since that happened.




tweakabelle -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 5:33:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Fdd makes it up as he goes along Tweaks.

That's always a reliable source isn't it!

I was interested to see him refer to "peace lovers" too. Comparison of Iran's record of military aggression since the Revolution there to say, Israel's or the USA's is revealing ..... if a bit one-sided. Certainly makes a person wonder who is 'peace loving' and who isn't ......




TheHeretic -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 5:33:53 PM)



FR

Is there some particular reason he shouldn't be taken at his word? Other than it just doesn't fit with what western liberals think is reasonable?





Politesub53 -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 5:43:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic



FR

Is there some particular reason he shouldn't be taken at his word? Other than it just doesn't fit with what western liberals think is reasonable?




Firstly he doesnt speak for everyone in Iran, as shown by recent events there. Secondly you and I both know he is spouting the same old rhetoric. You and I also know Israel and the west wont let this happen.




TheHeretic -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 5:48:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
Firstly he doesnt speak for everyone in Iran, as shown by recent events there. Secondly you and I both know he is spouting the same old rhetoric. You and I also know Israel and the west wont let this happen.



He speaks for the government, Polite. Perhaps you missed the bit of recent events there, where it was clearly established that not every Iranian opinion matters very much?





slvemike4u -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 6:01:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic



FR

Is there some particular reason he shouldn't be taken at his word? Other than it just doesn't fit with what western liberals think is reasonable?


Of course there is Rich...for instance would you buy his claim that there is no homosexuality in Iran?




TheHeretic -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 6:08:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Of course there is Rich...for instance would you buy his claim that there is no homosexuality in Iran?




I'd say he had some foundation to make that statement from, Mike. They are working on it.

Wikipedia
Homosexuality is a crime punishable by death under the country's theocratic Islamic government.[3] Any type of sexual activity outside of a heterosexual marriage is forbidden. Gay men are treated far more harshly under the law than lesbians, and some men undergo sex change operations to avoid harsh penalties that include imprisonment and/or execution.[1]




Lucylastic -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 6:16:05 PM)

Proving that there IS of course homosexuality in Iran , otherwise they wouldnt be  "fighting" or legistlating against it




TheHeretic -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 6:23:50 PM)

Lucy, it is far too fine an evening to be distracted by your snarkings. Of course there are gays in Iran, of course A'hmanutjob said something that wasn't true. And of course, he wishes it was.





slvemike4u -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 6:24:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Of course there is Rich...for instance would you buy his claim that there is no homosexuality in Iran?




I'd say he had some foundation to make that statement from, Mike. They are working on it.

Wikipedia
Homosexuality is a crime punishable by death under the country's theocratic Islamic government.[3] Any type of sexual activity outside of a heterosexual marriage is forbidden. Gay men are treated far more harshly under the law than lesbians, and some men undergo sex change operations to avoid harsh penalties that include imprisonment and/or execution.[1]

Have you ever heard the term..."on the down low" ? Do you seriously believe the harshness of draconian laws can stamp out homosexuality? Seriously......are you of the opinion it is merely a choice ?




slvemike4u -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 6:26:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Lucy, it is far too fine an evening to be distracted by your snarkings. Of course there are gays in Iran, of course A'hmanutjob said something that wasn't true. And of course, he wishes it was.


So than naturally his credibility is in question...and perhaps paying too much attention to this particular blowhard is a mistake [:D]




TheHeretic -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 6:32:18 PM)

Oh for fuck's sake, Mike, if you think I'm going to defend his position, you can sit and spin.

Frankly, I think as statement as bizarre as the no gays one should make us more nervous when he comes out with shit like this.





slvemike4u -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 6:36:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Oh for fuck's sake, Mike, if you think I'm going to defend his position, you can sit and spin.

Frankly, I think as statement as bizarre as the no gays one should make us more nervous when he comes out with shit like this.


No Rich you misunderstand me,or I you...I am not suggesting that you are defending his position,I am merely stating that his position is not worth serious consideration  ...and for 2 reasons.1)he is a proven and verifiable liar. 2) he is not the actual power in Iran,he is merely the front man for the clerics behind the curtain...who allow him to occupy the office he does.




TheHeretic -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 6:39:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
who allow him to occupy the office he does.




And allow him brutalize and murder any opposition to him occupying that office, Mike. They must like him, huh?




Lucylastic -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 6:40:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Lucy, it is far too fine an evening to be distracted by your snarkings. Of course there are gays in Iran, of course A'hmanutjob said something that wasn't true. And of course, he wishes it was.



That wasnt snark, it was a legitimate point, its not my problem you cant comprehend that






slvemike4u -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 6:44:22 PM)

As an aside...I have found that "sitting and spinning" can be great fun,it all depends on who you do it with [:D]




slvemike4u -> RE: Ahmadinejad: ‘A Mideast Without Israel and America Now Possible’ (4/10/2011 6:50:12 PM)

A further aside...I don't think I have the same level of appreciation for this new avatar...as I have had in the past Lucy [8|].




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