undergroundsea
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Joined: 6/27/2004 From: Austin, TX Status: offline
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There are different reasons why a man might crossdress, of which one is its perceived humiliation value. In such cases, I don't think it's femininity itself that is considered humiliating but instead a man dressing in a manner that society considers inappropriate. I elaborate. Suppose a man shows up at a gathering wearing shorts and a t-shirt and everyone else there is dressed in formal attire. He will feel embarrassed. It is not that he thinks the image he dons is in itself lesser. Instead his discomfort comes from a perceived loss of esteem in the eyes of others. I think forced feminization usually works in a similar way; it is not necessarily that such a sub himself thinks the image is lesser but instead his discomfort comes from how he sees society to view him in such clothing. I remember a similar discussion on forums here where a young domme in college felt similarly offended. I asked her if she would feel any discomfort if one of her male relatives came to her college graduation crossdressed. I said that she would like feel discomfort not because she thinks the feminine image is lesser but because of how others might perceive her and her family. Just as responding to how others might perceive her does not make her hold a negative view about a feminine image, the same can apply to a man who finds humiliation value in feminization. Thus, I don't think seeing feminization as humiliating is necessarily misogynistic at an individual level. However, it is fair to say that it is misogynistic at a society level since society thinks lesser of or assigns weakness to a man if he dresses as a woman. I believe we live in a world that occurs as a sum of various continuums. That is, a given motivation (to crossdress for a sense of humiliation) is not binary and may exist as a shade of gray, and the net motivation may be a sum of different motivations to crossdress. Other motivations to crossdress include a fascination with femininity and its sensual power, or a mismatch between physical anatomy and psychological identity. I will add that in BDSM people often seek constructs to make submission more believable. A construct seeks to bridge the difference between what one perceives as reality (people don't just submit to others, people don't treat others harshly the way one might wish to be treated) and what one wishes to experience. Because F/m goes against the grain of society more in the present day (I believe it is changing and will continue to change) than other variations in BDSM, there is a greater occurrence of such constructs in Fm. Escaping the male identity via crossdressing could be one such construct. Cheers, Sea
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