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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 9:37:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, pathetic as the disparagement is, of course the legal issue is that you cannot just go publishing someones birth certificate, it is against Hawaii state law, by example and the Attorney General of Hawaii told him so, it was in all the papers.   Just like Nixons resignation proved him not guilty according to long time nutsuckers. 

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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 9:40:45 AM   
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It must be 58, the smartest man in the world said so

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Actually, I recall Obama/Soetoro not being sure if it was 57 or 58. :-)


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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 9:41:48 AM   
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whats really in a name? think about it, hussein is a popular name in some places, for fucks sake do you know what other name is popular? ADOLF!

dumbfucks putting too much meaning in names

Which of the following name's he has used during his life is really his? Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Obama?
Which of the four, visably desparate to the naked eye, online images of his "Certification of Live Birth" is the authentic one? Think about it...four visably different images, allegedly all of the same exact document, each proferred as authentic...for fucks sake there CANNOT be more than ONE authentic anything!!!!

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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 9:48:58 AM   
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Geee...How come you never get mad at Gov Bobby Jindal??????  Seems he changed his name and has never used his birth name while running for office.  But than again who cares about double standards 

Geee...How come you don't acknowledge that Gov Bobby Jindal doesn't stand a chance in hell of ever being the Republican nominee!!!! Seems he hasn't even announced he is running for POTUS. But then again who cares about facts/truths.

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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 9:50:21 AM   
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Geee...How come you never get mad at Gov Bobby Jindal??????  Seems he changed his name and has never used his birth name while running for office.  But than again who cares about double standards 


What color is he, again?


Thanks for proving it's your side that's racist.

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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 9:52:24 AM   
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whats really in a name? think about it, hussein is a popular name in some places, for fucks sake do you know what other name is popular? ADOLF!

dumbfucks putting too much meaning in names

Which of the following name's he has used during his life is really his? Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Obama?
Which of the four, visably desparate to the naked eye, online images of his "Certification of Live Birth" is the authentic one? Think about it...four visably different images, allegedly all of the same exact document, each proferred as authentic...for fucks sake there CANNOT be more than ONE authentic anything!!!!


Perhaps you have heard of greenbacks?  Trillions of them, and if each and every one is not authentic, somebody is going to the woodshed.

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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 9:57:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: imdmb

whats really in a name? think about it, hussein is a popular name in some places, for fucks sake do you know what other name is popular? ADOLF!

dumbfucks putting too much meaning in names

Which of the following name's he has used during his life is really his? Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Obama?
Which of the four, visably desparate to the naked eye, online images of his "Certification of Live Birth" is the authentic one? Think about it...four visably different images, allegedly all of the same exact document, each proferred as authentic...for fucks sake there CANNOT be more than ONE authentic anything!!!!


im not a part of that fight, sombody was going after the hussein part and its really making me question that persons intelligence. you attack a name that sombody has that sombody who happens to be a dick also has for what? how does the name possibly transfer the assholery from one person to another? just because sombodys named orenthal does that mean hes going to kill sombody? just because sombodys named peter does that mean hes going to be an apostle? (or a bunny?)

attacking sombody because their name contains (or may contain) the same name as sombody whos crazy or evil is just schoolyard garbage

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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 9:58:23 AM   
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Yes he did, why not check the paperwork he files to run for office or even his own dam website, Ahhhh but facts mean nothing to those who only follow and drink the kool aid

Barry was a nickname, for the asses who do not know the difference, where as "Bobby" changed his name from Piyush Amrit  reading something beside web blogs may help

Gee How come old Piyush does not use that name on the ballots????

Here is what some right wingers have to say about him 

First, he's married to a brown chick, which doesn't foster the emergence of a Jeurasian class. Second, as a secular humanist, I'm a bit suspicious of religious traditionalists and their cosmic vision, though as a conservative & Republican I acknowledge their place of primacy on the American Right.


Barry Soetoro was the name Barack Hussein Obama was registered as at an Indonesian grade school for four years. Not only that but his registration form at that school, showing his name as Barry Soetoro, is the most recent official document of any type in the public domain (except for his current passport which was issued after he became POTUS) showing what name he was going by.

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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 10:01:03 AM   
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Or that the governor of Hawaii couldnt find it when he went looking for it

Bet that was embarrassing


Amazingly enough, the Gov of Hawaii never claimed he couldnt find it. He said, according to state law, it could not be released.

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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 10:01:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		I want to see an authentic certified US Government document signed by Hipshooter that this bullshit Soetoro document is authentic.

While you are at it, prove to me that 'Dutch' Reagan ain't a heinie, by same certification.

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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 10:02:56 AM   
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Which of the following name's he has used during his life is really his? Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Obama?


The first one, and the last two, are all him.

Now, show me when he used the Barry Soetoro name.

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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 10:05:19 AM   
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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 10:15:13 AM   
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IF you have to supply proof of citizenship to run for public office, and IF you have to prove you meet the qualifications to run for president BEFORE you even run, then why the fuck are the birthers claiming Obama was not born in the US.


It seems that Arizona must have a large share of the IDIOT republicans in the state. Good thing for them that mental competency is not a requirement to run for office in that state.

You don't have to supply proof of citizenship to run for public office, or prove you meet the qualifications to run for president BEFORE you even run unless a State's election laws require you, your political party and/or your campaing to -- like Hawaii's election laws did in 2008, 2004, 2000, etc., etc.

It seems that someone with the Democratic Party of Hawaii ("DOH") intentionally removed the qualifying phrase "under provisions of the United States Constitution." (required by Hawaiii election law) from "Official Certification Of Nomination" ("OCON") of Obama-Biden in 2008 which it submitted to the Hawaii Department of Elections. I said "intentionally removed" for the simple reason that the DOH's OCON for Kerry-Edwards in 2004 and Gore-Liberman in 2000 included that qualifying phrase.

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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 10:16:34 AM   
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Arizona sucks..

thus CA will never fall into the ocean...

*badumbum*

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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 10:16:54 AM   
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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 10:17:45 AM   
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Barry Soetoro was the name Barack Hussein Obama was registered as at an Indonesian grade school for four years. Not only that but his registration form at that school, showing his name as Barry Soetoro, is the most recent official document of any type in the public domain (except for his current passport which was issued after he became POTUS) showing what name he was going by.


Even if what you say is true, and no one has yet to be able to show any proof of that, punishing a grown man for what his parents did is wrong.

Now, according to US law, a child cannot relinquish his US citizenship.

F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN

Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.

http://www.travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html

Obama returned to Hawaii at the age of 10. There is no way he could have renounced his citizenship, and his parents legally could not do so on his behalf.

Also, having dual citizenship does not make one ineligible for President.

DUAL NATIONALITY

Dual nationality can occur as the result of a variety of circumstances. The automatic acquisition or retention of a foreign nationality, acquired, for example, by birth in a foreign country or through an alien parent, does not affect U.S. citizenship.

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_778.html

Now, why dont you birther fellas read up a bit on the legalities of what you talk about.

Here is a starting point.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 10:19:31 AM   
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Yes he did, why not check the paperwork he files to run for office or even his own dam website, Ahhhh but facts mean nothing to those who only follow and drink the kool aid

Barry was a nickname, for the asses who do not know the difference, where as "Bobby" changed his name from Piyush Amrit  reading something beside web blogs may help

Gee How come old Piyush does not use that name on the ballots????

Here is what some right wingers have to say about him 

First, he's married to a brown chick, which doesn't foster the emergence of a Jeurasian class. Second, as a secular humanist, I'm a bit suspicious of religious traditionalists and their cosmic vision, though as a conservative & Republican I acknowledge their place of primacy on the American Right.


Barry Soetoro was the name Barack Hussein Obama was registered as at an Indonesian grade school for four years. Not only that but his registration form at that school, showing his name as Barry Soetoro, is the most recent official document of any type in the public domain (except for his current passport which was issued after he became POTUS) showing what name he was going by.

Bullshit.

You know that law license you were telling lies about recently? It's public and guess what name is on it?

Barack Hussein Obama.

When will you stop telling lies?

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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 10:25:27 AM   
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So, the President should show his birth certificate in a state that will be giving its votes to the Republican ticket candidate (which ever dingbat that turns out to be)? If it was a 50/50 shot, that might one thing, and if it was likely to go to the Democratic ticket, maybe. But I dont see this really affecting the outome. So, yet again, we watch Arizonians displaying their ignorance, wasting money, and then patting themselves on the back, only to find out later, the President out thought them all together.

I'm still waiting for the full House Republicans to post their full (and long form) birth certificates online as PDF forms. Funny how not a single one of them do it....

And I'm still waiting for Obama/Soetoro to post anything online that the Department of Hawaii Home Lands would accept as sole and sufficient evidence that he was born in Hawaii. Funny how the Democratic Party of Hawaii, his own party in his "own" State, refused to certify him as eligible to serve as POTUS "under provisions of the United States Constitution" and his "own" State wouldn't accept his Hawaii "Certification of Live Birth" as sole and sufficient evidence that he was born in Hawaii.

BTW: You only have to be a "citizen" to become a member of Congress, as opposed to having to be a "natural born Citizen" to become POTUS. Funny how lefties either don't understand the difference or don't care.

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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 10:29:18 AM   
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And what does Arizona expect him to show...

Hawaii does not issue of the long form.

Not sure what Arizona might expect him and every other candidate to show...

Hawaii does not issue a long-form "Certificate of Live Birth"? Since when?

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RE: I love Arizona - 4/14/2011 10:31:49 AM   
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And I'm still waiting for Obama/Soetoro to post anything online that the Department of Hawaii Home Lands would accept as sole and sufficient evidence that he was born in Hawaii.

I already debunked this lie and here it is again. The Department of Hawaiian Homelands manages land held in trust for the native Hawaiians. Obama is not a native Hawaiian, and never claimed to be, so of course he does not meet their requirements. It has nothing to do with his place of birth but the fact his ancestors did not live in Hawaii when Cook landed.

http://hawaii.gov/dhhl

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Funny how the Democratic Party of Hawaii, his own party in his "own" State, refused to certify him as eligible to serve as POTUS "under provisions of the United States Constitution" and his "own" State wouldn't accept his Hawaii "Certification of Live Birth" as sole and sufficient evidence that he was born in Hawaii.

This is patent bullshit.

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BTW: You only have to be a "citizen" to become a member of Congress, as opposed to having to be a "natural born Citizen" to become POTUS. Funny how lefties either don't understand the difference or don't care.

Funny how racists can't accept the fact that we elected a black man president.

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