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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/20/2011 10:40:26 AM

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/20/2011 3:23:39 PM

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when I had to write lines for Master it was his way of ingraining in me my mistake so that it would never be forgotten. It was his way of making sure the mistake stayed in my mind.

It's like making someone do something over and over again until they get it correct.

Repetition keeps you from making the mistake again and the better you get at whatever it is.

Actualy, little wonder, repetition enforces the negative behavior. It adds an additional and unnecessary step. There is a reason that soldiers don't focus on what they did wrong when they are putting their gun together, they focus on the RIGHT way to do it. If they add that extra step of "DON'T do this", then that hesitation can end with terrible consequences.

People who work with beginners know that the best way to teach a something is to show them and have them think of and focus on what they SHOULD do instead of what they shouldn't do.

You're saying this:

Don't push this red button.
It doesn't tell you what you SHOULD do.

I'm saying this:

Push the green button.
In my scenario, you avoid the blue, the yellow, the purple, the white, the orange, the black, and the clear buttons. In yours, you still don't know what to do. You only know what one thing NOT to do. And then you have to experiment with each button to figure out eventually which one is the correct one. Wouldn't it have been simpler just to say "push the GREEN button"?

Is this making sense? I haven't had coffee yet this morning.

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/20/2011 5:23:46 PM

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I can only speak from my experiences in grade school, college, home life, M/s and even work. I've been taught repetition is what you do to get it right. At work we're made to do certain things a million times a day to make sure we get it correct. At school we did the writing assignments, we were made to repeat the 50 states and their capitals over and over again until we knew them backward and forwards literally. At home my dad always forced me to say certain things over and over until I either believed them or I knew what I was doing. I learned to multiply by my brother who made me repeat them over and over.

It's what always worked for me, what has always been taught to me in so many situations I've lost count.

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/20/2011 6:12:26 PM

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I can only speak from my experiences in grade school, college, home life, M/s and even work. I've been taught repetition is what you do to get it right. At work we're made to do certain things a million times a day to make sure we get it correct. At school we did the writing assignments, we were made to repeat the 50 states and their capitals over and over again until we knew them backward and forwards literally. At home my dad always forced me to say certain things over and over until I either believed them or I knew what I was doing. I learned to multiply by my brother who made me repeat them over and over.

It's what always worked for me, what has always been taught to me in so many situations I've lost count.

You just gave excellent examples of what I'm saying. The focus was on the positive, not the negative.

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/20/2011 6:29:38 PM

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I have on rare occasion required a sub to write in poetic verse. Picking different topics and styles. I find that as a "punishment" it demands they reach deeply within themself. It also reminds me that they live on the same creative level that I do....with often turns punishment into joy for both of us.

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/21/2011 8:59:31 AM

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I've had to do it in the past but honestly it doesn't faze me, yes it's tedious writing " I will not _______" 500 to 1000 times but honestly I like to write so it's not really a punishment - a spanking, caning, cropping and corner time makes much more of a difference in my obedience.

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/21/2011 12:29:19 PM

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once in college a Domme i was serving punished me b/c i was 15 minutes late fetching Her dry-cleaning. i had to do 250 lines "I will never fuck-up on dry-cleaning again." However the catch was that each line was to be different as in "i WiLL neVer fUCk up ON Dry clEaninG agAIn." It taught me a lesson!

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/21/2011 2:52:09 PM

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It'd have to be pretty unusual for me to feel it was any kind of punishment. Like the oft mentioned *corner-time*.......wasted on me, I'd regard myself as having got off rather lightly.

Everyone differs.

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/21/2011 3:00:21 PM

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lol i had to research and write on the thundercats once cause i got a bit uppity about education. I am not a fan of the cartoon.

I would have loved that punishment. I love old science fiction cartoons. :D

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/21/2011 3:03:30 PM

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I love to use my hand to write so I would probably enjoy this punishment, assuming it wasn't with a long, thin black quill with an unusually sharp point.

I would enjoy it back home s I also loved to write...however over here if he would be fussy about grammar and would decide to choose a less favourite topic to mine in which he would have proper knowledge, such as...eg. star wars or history...it would be torture.

So thanks but no thanks, am not into lines

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/26/2011 10:59:14 AM

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Punishment lines are an effective form of discipline, mundane, menial and I enjoy My slave completing them as a form of punishment.

I also use the Fond Of Writing programme, which is is also very successful.

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/28/2011 9:01:01 AM

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I also use the Fond Of Writing programme, which is is also very successful.

Yes, it is. In a few minutes, you can edit a writing task that will take the sub many hours to complete. Website

I also once had to write lines by hand, alternating between two colors for each next character.

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/28/2011 10:06:34 AM

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No I have not. When one of my Beloved ones has displeased me she is sent to her room for a time to consider what has been done. This I have found is adequate punishment.

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/28/2011 11:21:16 AM

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This I have found is adequate punishment.

I don't know about that. A few hours lazing on my bed watching TV or reading a book is unlikely to really teach a lesson of any real importance...well I guess it depends on what book you are reading

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/28/2011 11:28:48 AM

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I'm struggling to understand how and why writing lines could possibly be an effective punishment.

I mean, I'm well versed in the principle of 'it takes all sorts', but this one just seems utterly pointless.

To me, punishment should be harsh, harsh but fair, and leave a lasting impression. Presumably, the idea is to not have to be witness to the same transgression, and I can't see how writing lines could be the medicine for any unresolved issue.

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/28/2011 11:51:49 AM

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Northern Gent I'm inclined to agree. After writing those 1500 lines I learned nothing. Today I can't even remember what's the lines were, or what warranted them. All I remember is the wrist cramp and that he didn't look at them. So I suppose the lesson there was that they weren't very important.

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/28/2011 12:48:30 PM

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Northern Gent I'm inclined to agree. After writing those 1500 lines I learned nothing. Today I can't even remember what's the lines were, or what warranted them. All I remember is the wrist cramp and that he didn't look at them. So I suppose the lesson there was that they weren't very important.

I don't know the fella, but a positive view could be that he was setting you a pointless task as a way of saying: "a transgression will lead to you wasting your time, and assuming you value spending your time wisely, then this will serve as a useful reminder as to what you're here for". Either way, didn't work so no use to anyone.

The simplest solution has worked well for me in the past - deny access to that which she values - whatever that may be.

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/28/2011 5:46:43 PM

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Northern Gent I'm inclined to agree. After writing those 1500 lines I learned nothing. Today I can't even remember what's the lines were, or what warranted them. All I remember is the wrist cramp and that he didn't look at them. So I suppose the lesson there was that they weren't very important.

I don't know the fella, but a positive view could be that he was setting you a pointless task as a way of saying: "a transgression will lead to you wasting your time, and assuming you value spending your time wisely, then this will serve as a useful reminder as to what you're here for". Either way, didn't work so no use to anyone.

The simplest solution has worked well for me in the past - deny access to that which she values - whatever that may be.

It could be that writing the lines denied her of valuable time....with you or other things she'd rather be doing.

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 4/28/2011 5:58:43 PM

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The simplest solution has worked well for me in the past - deny access to that which she values - whatever that may be.

This is the basis of my punishment regime. There is no books, bed or TV. Just being alone to think on her transgression. That which my Beloveds most value is my attentions, thus this is denied them when they displease.

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RE: Writing Lines as Punishment - 5/1/2011 7:09:52 AM

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I've found that most slaves require remedial instruction in the Palmer Method even before considering assigning punitive transcription duties.

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