Termyn8or -> RE: "And Heaven Shall Pass Away." Thank God we're going to Hell (4/16/2011 2:37:08 AM)
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Nice return Herr Straat. But shall we go on ? I seek not to destroy faith but to open minds, but sometimes as it has been said, to make a omelette you have to break a few eggs. Your examples are totally confined to the box. Want to think outside the box ? WARNING, anyone reading who is religios should stop right now. God is omnipotent, which means everywhere at everytime in the past or future. The universe is so. Define for me the difference between the universe and god. As much as Men wrote in the past, it is just as likely that what I just wrote is the real truth. I have not embellished it though. God is the universe and we are all a part. Our puny galaxies and star systems are nothing more than cells in it's body. Therefore we are a part of it. The sixth through tenth books of Moses were deleted from the Bible because they contain the secrets of magic. Magic is nothing but science that is not yet understood. And the true definition of the occult is "that which is hidden". There are more things in heaven and on earth than will ever be understood. Magic and PK and all that, if it truly does exist is not supernatural, for there is nothing supernatural. It is all natural. If it is in the universe it is natural, and that is that. I don't believe all the fairy tale bullshit, but the reality is that we wil never know everything and as humans most will see something as a "sign". Within their own mind they will extrapolate their own conclusions, form their opinions and sometimes write about it. This has been going on for thousands of years at least. What they saw or envisioned about what they did not understand was melded with their own perspective of the world. Of the most perceptive I believe was John. He envisioned the end of "the world" quite acurately, but as much so metaphorically. Based on his times and reason he professed his knowledge, but it seems so cryptic now. He had read the works of others, he knew what was going on in his time. It was expressed in his terms. The end of the world. But the end of the world for whom ? The Jews ? I think not, but I could be wrong, and so could he. For Gentiles ? Possibly if he foresaw certain things that even we can't forsee. His portent for the future could not be set in the future because he could not forsee the specifics. Many have equated those writings to what is happening today and some of them take it as gospel so to speak. They think some thing is going to fly up out the ocean and start eating cars, bars and guitars. What people do not see is his lack of experience in the future. Even if he had a true vision of the future, how would he see it ? More importantly how would he express it ? He was imprisoned when he wrote you know (?) By the time he got out he didn't even know what the new chariots looked like. What I am trying to say is that you can't take this shit to heart. I couldn't even at five years old. After an encounter with Baptists I never wanted to hear about it again. I have to INTEND to do good ? Bullshit, the proof is in the action. And I completely reject the idea that the guy who ripped me off for alot of money could be forgiven by someone who left this earth over two thousand years ago. No leader of mine could ever propose that because if he did, he would not be my leader. I have no leader. I never have and never will. T^T
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