juliaoceania
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How many people view your medical records? I have no expectation of privacy because, being in the medical field, I know how many look. All I can do is hope they have enough integrity not to talk about it.
I expect those in the medical field not to disclose my condition to outside individuals without my consent. I never said that no one would ever look at them, but I trust and expect my medical records not to be posted openly on the internet, for example. To me this is privacy in regards to my medical condition. Are you saying that, as a medical professional, that this level of privacy is not "expected"?
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I dont [expect privacy with my minister]. Then again, its one of the reasons why I left the catholic church.
Many people expect and get this privacy every day, are you asserting they shouldn't have that expectation?
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How many people do you attend AA with (not saying you do, meaning you as in anyone)?
I will not make a secret out of the fact I have attended Narcotics Anonymous with an ex over 20 yrs ago to support him in his efforts to get clean. It is expected that we will respect the anonymity of those who attend and give them privacy in what they say there, it is not supposed to be repeated outside the confines of the meeting. I never broke with that confidentiality. It does not matter how many people went there, those who were there were expected to maintain the anonymity (privacy) of those who attended.
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[with regard to places that maintain a ban in electronic devices]
And yet videos and photos are taking in these places everyday.
So we should expect people to go against the rules of an establishment (for example a swingers club that bans electronic recording devices)? I would rather be of the mindset that people would respect the rules, not the other way around.
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I never said you should "expect" anything. But, like you going out with your friends and having your photos end up on fb... do you expect your friends to protect your privacy? And, since they have not, what does that say?
My friends did not know that I would mind that they posted the photos, and I merely informed them that I did, and after I told them that they never posted one more photo of me without asking first. Since I posed for the photos in the first place, I should have told them that I would rather they not end up on facebook, it was not like they took pictures covertly.
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This thread came about because I mentioned how a bus driver was caught on a security video tape running a red light, and how the police can actually monitor your progress down the street by reviewing the various video tapes of business, like banks. I was told that it was an invasion of privacy. And it got me to thinking.... what privacy?
In the instance of some schmuck running a red light on a public roadway, I do not have much sympathy for them. The knowledge that traffic lights have these cameras attached is very well known, and in the city i lived in, they posted that the lights had cameras on them that were set to automatically capture red light runners.
An interesting aside is that when I lived in Clovis, California they had these lights in place, they were so successful that the city had them taken out. They were not cost effective. In other words, since no one was running red lights anymore, they pulled them. This was rather astonishing to me because the stated purpose of the cameras was as a deterrent for running red lights. No, the real purpose was to enrich the city by giving them the ability to fine people without even the expense of a cop on duty. I thought that was distasteful.
As for the last part, I think we have been discussing privacy, what it is.... I think what we may not be defining correctly is the term "expectation" of privacy and the right to have that expectation. Technically speaking we cannot expect anything in this world to be as it should be, but we lead our daily lives with a multitude of expectations. Life would be chaos without it. I do not run around thinking about the expectations of being filmed most places I go. I actually expect to be filmed, even though it makes me VERY uncomfortable. But even though I have some expectation of being filmed, I also can say I do not expect to end up on youtube. I do not think most of us are always on guard expecting someone to film us for a youtube video.
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