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Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/9/2006 11:11:21 PM

MistressLove999

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Got this tidbit in my email today, UPSETTING.
While I bitch and groan about our government, it is OURS, and I feel much better then a dictatorship! For now I am just going to pass on the information, I can't wait to see what some of you say about this crap! LOL.

Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government

Venezuela government is sole owner of Citgo gasoline company

Venezuela Dictator Hugo Chavez has vowed to bring down the U.S. government.
Chavez, president of Venezuela, told a TV audience: "Enough of imperialist aggression;
we must tell the world: down with the U.S. empire. We have to bury imperialism this century."

The guest on his television program, beamed across Venezuela, was Cindy Sheehan,
the antiwar activist. Chavez recently had as his guest Harry Belafonte, who called
President Bush "the greatest terrorist in the world."

Chavez is pushing a socialist revolution and has a close alliance with Cuban
dictator Fidel Castro.

Regardless of your feelings abou t the war in Iraq, the issue here is that we have
a socialist dictator vowing to bring down the government of the U.S. And he is
using our money to achieve his goal!

The Venezuela government, run by dictator Chavez, sole owner of Citgo gas co.
Sales of products at Citgo stations send money back to Chavez to help him in his vow
to bring down our government.

Take Action

Please decide that you will not be shopping at a Citgo station. Why should U.S.
citizens who love freedom be financing a dictator who has vowed to take
down our government?

Very important. Please forward this to your friends
and family. Most of them don't know that Citgo is
owned by the Venezuela government.

link: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10704025/

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 1:21:05 AM

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Ok since you asked.
First off a bit of additional animosity was created when that insane fuck Pat Robertson stated making comments about assassinating Chavez. Things like that are bound to assure retaliation in the media which Chavez promptly did.
Secondly at this point in time Bush IS the number one terrorist in the world. 100,000 plus dead Iraqis and untold Afghans (or Afghanistanians if its Bush talking) kind of speak to that fact.
Saudi Arabia and numerous other countries that we buy oil from would like to see us all dead as well. (Where were the majority of 9/11 hijackers from?). So the fact that one other country is not to fond of us really doesnt mean much.
I believe our lovely president called virtually every other nation in the world either part of his "Axis of Evil" or stated that since they werent with us they were with the terrorists (including those violent terrorists just to our north known as Canadians).
Right now its not other nations that are fucking us over on gas prices but rather our own US based companies.
If there was a issue of supply and demand (which there isnt) it would be in part due to the reduction in gas available from Iraq who's production is at like an all time 30 year low thanks to the BushCo invasion/occupation.
One of the main obstacles to other sources of energy is that the White House is owned by big oil (Cheney/Bush).
So see in reality, the majority of these problems have nothing to do with Chavez or those wonderful patriots Sheehan and Belafonte, but actually with Bush and apathetic Americans who let them get away with this.
With all due respect, I will be filling up at CITGO tomorrow. Have a nice evening.

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 2:03:40 AM

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one can only hope he succeeds in taking the US government down... and maybe then Chavez can start working on the current Australian and UK governments too... so the guys a dictator... hurray for him... that is generally a short term career move... sooner or later someone will try and push you off the top

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 2:10:22 AM

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Ok since you asked.
First off a bit of additional animosity was created when that insane fuck Pat Robertson stated making comments about assassinating Chavez. Things like that are bound to assure retaliation in the media which Chavez promptly did.
Secondly at this point in time Bush IS the number one terrorist in the world. 100,000 plus dead Iraqis and untold Afghans (or Afghanistanians if its Bush talking) kind of speak to that fact.
Saudi Arabia and numerous other countries that we buy oil from would like to see us all dead as well. (Where were the majority of 9/11 hijackers from?). So the fact that one other country is not to fond of us really doesnt mean much.
I believe our lovely president called virtually every other nation in the world either part of his "Axis of Evil" or stated that since they werent with us they were with the terrorists (including those violent terrorists just to our north known as Canadians).
Right now its not other nations that are fucking us over on gas prices but rather our own US based companies.
If there was a issue of supply and demand (which there isnt) it would be in part due to the reduction in gas available from Iraq who's production is at like an all time 30 year low thanks to the BushCo invasion/occupation.
One of the main obstacles to other sources of energy is that the White House is owned by big oil (Cheney/Bush).
So see in reality, the majority of these problems have nothing to do with Chavez or those wonderful patriots Sheehan and Belafonte, but actually with Bush and apathetic Americans who let them get away with this.
With all due respect, I will be filling up at CITGO tomorrow. Have a nice evening.

I have this recurring fantasy. Cindy Sheehan is dropped by chopper into the mountains of Afghanistan. A plane flies over where she is, trailing a banner saying "Osama Love Llama Long Time"........ she's armed with a Swiss Army knife, a slingshot, and a kazoo.

Come to think of it, I wouldn't mind seeing Pat Robertson and Chavez join her.

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 2:41:51 AM

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I have this recurring fantasy. Cindy Sheehan is dropped by chopper into the mountains of Afghanistan. A plane flies over where she is, trailing a banner saying "Osama Love Llama Long Time"........ she's armed with a Swiss Army knife, a slingshot, and a kazoo.Come to think of it, I wouldn't mind seeing Pat Robertson and Chavez join her.

Damnit Level, her son was killed in a war that should never have happened. She gets on my nerves to, and she is being used as a pawn by the Dems and Anti-Bush crowd but still, she's a mom who lost her baby. No one can deny that. A grieving mom is a grieving mom and no one should even attempt to try to silence her right?. Now as far as Robertson and Chavez,,,,.

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 3:08:08 AM

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I have this recurring fantasy. Cindy Sheehan is dropped by chopper into the mountains of Afghanistan. A plane flies over where she is, trailing a banner saying "Osama Love Llama Long Time"........ she's armed with a Swiss Army knife, a slingshot, and a kazoo.Come to think of it, I wouldn't mind seeing Pat Robertson and Chavez join her.

Damnit Level, her son was killed in a war that should never have happened. She gets on my nerves to, and she is being used as a pawn by the Dems and Anti-Bush crowd but still, she's a mom who lost her baby. No one can deny that. A grieving mom is a grieving mom and no one should even attempt to try to silence her right?. Now as far as Robertson and Chavez,,,,.

No, MsM, she should not be silenced. No one should, even dips like Robertson and Chavez. (In my fantasy, I've given her a bullhorn ).

And, to the best of my knowledge, her son not only volunteered to serve in our military, but he believed in his being over there. It's too early for me to be thinking so much lol, so here's my condensed thoughts on Iraq/war.

War sucks. Sometimes we have to fight though. A very large number of people from BOTH parties, President Clinton included, thought Hussain had WMD. I do not for one second think that President Bush went there "for oil", though he would not mind us getting some. I would have preferred not to have invaded Iraq, but sanctions were not working, in fact the international community was raising hell because many were dying "because of the sanctions", even though it was Hussain's fault, as he kept much of the funds intended for his people in his own back pocket.

It's a beautiful and sad world.

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 5:05:17 AM

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[silenced. No one should, even dips like Robertson and Chavez. (In my fantasy, I've given her a bullhorn ).

And, to the best of my knowledge, her son not only volunteered to serve in our military, but he believed in his being over there. It's too early for me to be thinking so much lol, so here's my condensed thoughts on Iraq/war.

War sucks. Sometimes we have to fight though. A very large number of people from BOTH parties, President Clinton included, thought Hussain had WMD. I do not for one second think that President Bush went there "for oil", though he would not mind us getting some. I would have preferred not to have invaded Iraq, but sanctions were not working, in fact the international community was raising hell because many were dying "because of the sanctions", even though it was Hussain's fault, as he kept much of the funds intended for his people in his own back pocket.

It's a beautiful and sad world.

Level

Nobody forced her baby to go. And that is something she needs to come to grips with. My son's father is in the Air Force and my husband was in the A.F. I have a long background of military men in the family (some women too) in all branches. Hell, I even signed up. WE ALL VOLUNTEERED. Bush didn't hold a gun to her son's head. She should be bitching at the recruiter for selling him such a job. I sympathise-truly and i'm not trying to be a hard ass. I have lost so many friends in this freakin war. But I don't put the blame on anyone. Every country has had a military since the beginning of fire and every country has gone to war over something stupid. Do i agree with the iraq war...hell no. But i'm sick of the damn international community looking for the western powers to police the f-ing world. We cant get help from these a-holes to solve our own problems but we got to go "saving" everyone else every single time we turn around. I'm all about Isolationism. We need to just bubble ourselves and worry about our own damn country. Thats not going to work of course but hey...was worth a shot. LOL!

I'm all for boycotting CITGO. Their gas is higher priced here in my town than other gas and you don't get squat in your tank.

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 5:54:05 AM

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Citgo is a franchise, at least around here. My friend Jason's dad owns two of them here. I'm pretty sure he doesn't support the Venezuelan government. Did you consider that it's possible that the Venezuelan government sold these American individuals the actual chains of stations, but still simply owns the name. This means that money from every transaction does NOT go back to Chavez. He is payed a nominal fee annually, or often only one time by the owners of the respective Citgos in order to use the name. Oftentimes it is more expensive to buy gas at Citgo by a penny or so. This is because they are all individually owned, not because the Venezuelan government is out to get you.

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 6:45:55 AM

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Just remember Chavez is part of what Bush wants to create world-wide.

After discovering that the WMDs weren't where we had said we "knew" them to be. Vietnam II (Iraq) became a mission to bring democracy to the world. Chavez became the leader of his country as the result of a popular election.

While this goal of bring democracy to the world may seem noble, it is a two edged sword and we tend to get cut by both sides. First, democracies don't automatically bring out the best in people to become leader. "Retired" terrorists like Mzee Jomo Kenyatta, Yitzhak Shamir and Ismail Haniyeh can become the leaders of nations. When a guy has made a life out of killing people who disagree with him, getting a big office and a red phone doesn't suddenly make him into a nice guy.

The other "edge" may be worse. I wonder if Bush realizes the impact of his "democracy now" call on the leaders of the countries that supply most of our oil. In most of the countries, "democracy" is something like "self restraint," an understandable goal, but generally seen as unattainable. Think for a moment, if you were the Sultan of Brunie, sole and absolute ruler over a country afloat in oil. And Bush was telling the world that democracy was the way to go and dictatorships had to go, and then he showed up with a request that you lower the price of your oil, just what would be your response?

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 11:36:14 AM

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Very important. Please forward this to your friends
and family. Most of them don't know that Citgo is
owned by the Venezuela government.

link: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10704025/

I think you've fallen prey to sensationalism. What Chavez is actually talking about when he says ''bring down'' the US Government, is divesting itself {Venezuela} of the ''Dollar'' as the currency it accepts when it sells oil on the spot market/mercantile exchange.

When these countries switch their currency holdings from the dollar to the euro, it deflates our currency {The dollar} and causes inflation. Now you might think that's fucked up, but it's not some other country's fault that our country {The US} has went from the biggest ''lender'' nation to the biggest ''debtor'' nation in a span of forty years. And I won’t even mention the massive trade imbalance that’s never been corrected.

We have no one to blame for this problem but the ''shity'' {and that's nice word - because they're a lot worse than shity} politicians who've mismanaged our government for decades. Even the simplest minded person knows that if you go to work and make ''ten dollars'' a day, you can't come home and spend ''twenty''!!! But if you watch these Burecrats and politicians at work, it's common every day practice.

Now here's a little point to ponder: Hugo Chavez was democratically elected and has a seventy percent approval rating from the people in his own country. And Venezuelan’s are paying between twenty and forty cents a gallon for gas. Now contrast that with George Bush, who on the other hand, has a thirty-three percent approval rating {and the high twenties if you factor the illegal alien issue} and we're paying over three bucks a gallon.

Now... are you going to let a few neocons make you believe that Hugo Chavez is the bad guy and George Bush and the oil companies are the good guys? I don't know about you, but from my vantage point, the less control US oil companies have on the world-wide Petroleum industry, the better it is for consumers abroad and the quicker we'll relieve ourselves of the dependency on foreign oil.

Read this article and you might get some perspective on how and why the people in this country are getting fucked.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1841989&page=1&gma=true&gma=true

- R

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 12:08:50 PM

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Chavez is giving low cost petrol to poor families in the USA at a fraction of the market price. Just my opinion, but that shows me he cares a lot more than the oil companies that are price gouging all of us and have record profits... The oil companies are EVIL SHITS... right up there with the pharmecuticals... and I do thnk Bush is wanting to build an evil empire on other people's blood and other countries' oil.. but that is just my opinion

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 12:15:08 PM

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Yeah. I'm just wondering where I'm supposed to buy my gas. Can't buy it from Lukoil or Getty--that's Russia. Can't buy it from Exxon or Mobil, because they're the worst shits of all. Can't buy it from Sunoco--they're right-wing shits also. Shell? Read about what they've done in Africa. Really, what oil company are we supposed to use? They've got us by the balls.

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 12:47:08 PM

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Yeah. I'm just wondering where I'm supposed to buy my gas. Can't buy it from Lukoil or Getty--that's Russia. Can't buy it from Exxon or Mobil, because they're the worst shits of all. Can't buy it from Sunoco--they're right-wing shits also. Shell? Read about what they've done in Africa. Really, what oil company are we supposed to use? They've got us by the balls.

Absolutely Lam. That's why I advocate that any type of commodity/resource which is essential for everyday survival, should never be allowed to be exploited by a monopoly.

If you think about it.... we have water and food that are vital for sustaining life. But what's next on the list? Petroleum and Electricity. Neither of which should be at the mercy of a Plutocracy / monopoly.

If a genie came out of a lamp and granted me three wishes, one of them would be for every American to come out of their home with a ''pitch fork'' and surround the estates of Petroleum company executives.

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Edited to add : I think this type / degree of greediness, needs a swift kick right in the balls.

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 12:56:00 PM

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additional animosity was created when that insane fuck Pat Robertson stated making comments about assassinating Chavez.

Pat Robertson is a private citizen not a representative of any government or governmental agency. His comments are as uninformed and inaccurate. Only by paying attention and arguing with Pat Roberson can he be given credibility. Ignore random unsubstantiated "facts" and after a while, the comments become a monologue of the demented or delusional. Anyone can state something provocative, arguing about it, asking for facts and getting none gets redundant after the first 10 or 20 times. Present a false fact a million times and it's still false, no matter how many times you present it as fact.

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at this point in time Bush IS the number one terrorist in the world. 100,000 plus dead Iraqis and untold Afghans (or Afghanistanians if its Bush talking) kind of speak to that fact.

Better to have an honest enemy than a lying friend. Chavez has more than enough markets for his product other than the US. Boycotting air would have the same effect.

The Venezuela model should be the expectation of any democracy brought to Iraq. As long as oil is the real monetary force in the world, a democratic Iraq would result in a similar democratically elected government. The unique aspect is the incongruity of the world where "Infidels" and Muslims can peacefully co-exist. Look 10 years ahead, under the most favorable prognostication of the President Bush's administration and you have what currently exists in Iran.

Iran is blossoming into the world power their oil has afforded. The birth of Iran's democracy was the overthrow of the Shah under the manipulation and approval of Jimmy Carter. The fruits of that liberty was the existing democracy. If you support democracy you can't dictate who gains the power assigned to the people. In a matter of months or perhaps weeks we may see the fruits of that blossoming, perhaps in the form of mushroom clouds.

If I could apply a long term plan to Iraq, a strong and powerful Iraq would be a BIG concern of Iran. These two countries were natural enemies for centuries. In effect, the US eliminated a war-front for consideration The instability and lack of leadership in Iraq is one of the reasons Iran can ignore Iraq and plan for it's entry as a world power. Oil is a big part, nuclear capability is the other key ingredient.

Democracy requires a foundation which allows decent. It requires access to all political resources unencumbered by the party in power. Democracy requires open dialog and debate. It allows for open scrutiny of the facts presented by the other side. Those concepts are not found in any Muslim philosophy. You also will find quite the argument AGAINST democratic principles in the Koran. I can paraphrase it this way; "Common people are ignorant and weak to the desires of the flesh. Man does not have the ability to decide for themselves how they should live. They must live under the rule of Allah or die under his blade of his soldiers." Not much room for democratic debate. You can't even be "with 'em or against 'em?" The Muslim version would be; "with us or dead".

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 1:31:07 PM

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Well, unfortunately, those are precisely the kind of industries where natural monopolies are most likely to form. You can add telephone, internet, and cable to that list.

Unless you're saying the solution is some kind of government intervention... My oh my, is UR turning Green?

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Absolutely Lam. That's why I advocate that any type of commodity/resource which is essential for everyday survival, should never be allowed to be exploited by a monopoly.

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 1:34:20 PM

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Pat Robertson is a private citizen not a representative of any government or governmental agency. His comments are as uninformed and inaccurate. Only by paying attention and arguing with Pat Roberson can he be given credibility. Ignore random unsubstantiated "facts" and after a while, the comments become a monologue of the demented or delusional. Anyone can state something provocative, arguing about it, asking for facts and getting none gets redundant after the first 10 or 20 times. Present a false fact a million times and it's still false, no matter how many times you present it as fact.

You and I know this (private citizen) but others may not nor choose to believe it. Many countries have Muslim Clerics, Mullahs and Shahs etc running or advising their govt., regime. While we may state in public that our system doesnt operate as theirs does, they may not believe us. And the lst 5 years we have had much more influence within the White House via religious leaders then in recent history (or perhaps ever) so there could be something to be said for others disbelief.
And you are correct that by presenting fiction as facts a million time doesnt convert it from fiction to fact. Still BushCo stated a million times "WMD, Iraq and 9/11" in the same sentence and half of America believed him, (many still do). So while its still false, the damage has been done.

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 1:43:17 PM

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Absolutely Lam. That's why I advocate that any type of commodity/resource which is essential for everyday survival, should never be allowed to be exploited by a monopoly.

If you think about it.... we have water and food that are vital for sustaining life. But what's next on the list? Petroleum and Electricity. Neither of which should be at the mercy of a Plutocracy / monopoly.

If a genie came out of a lamp and granted me three wishes, one of them would be for every American to come out of their home with a ''pitch fork'' and surround the estates of Petroleum company executives.
- R

Edited to add : I think this type / degree of greediness, needs a swift kick right in the balls.

Amen! Whenever I've spoken like this though people have labeled me a big government loving commie, lol. M

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 1:55:04 PM

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Well, unfortunately, those are precisely the kind of industries where natural monopolies are most likely to form. You can add telephone, internet, and cable to that list.

Unless you're saying the solution is some kind of government intervention... My oh my, is UR turning Green?

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Absolutely Lam. That's why I advocate that any type of commodity/resource which is essential for everyday survival, should never be allowed to be exploited by a monopoly.

Lam.....

The only thing I would say.... is that if the telephone and cable becomes too costly, a cetain percentage of people will cut down their calls and not watch television. However, gas in an essential that most cannot do-with-out. And public transportation is just not a reality for those of us who live in rural America. Sad but true.

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Amen! Whenever I've spoken like this though people have labeled me a big government loving commie, lol. M

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 3:57:41 PM

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Chavez is giving low cost petrol to poor families in the USA at a fraction of the market price. Just my opinion, but that shows me he cares a lot more than the oil companies that are price gouging all of us and have record profits... The oil companies are EVIL SHITS... right up there with the pharmecuticals... and I do thnk Bush is wanting to build an evil empire on other people's blood and other countries' oil.. but that is just my opinion

Don't mistake Chavez's actions for those of a compassionate humanitarian. It's his way of saying "fuck you" to President Bush.

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RE: Should we boycott CITGO??? - 5/10/2006 4:55:37 PM

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Chavez is giving low cost petrol to poor families in the USA at a fraction of the market price. Just my opinion, but that shows me he cares a lot more than the oil companies that are price gouging all of us and have record profits... The oil companies are EVIL SHITS... right up there with the pharmecuticals... and I do thnk Bush is wanting to build an evil empire on other people's blood and other countries' oil.. but that is just my opinion

Don't mistake Chavez's actions for those of a compassionate humanitarian. It's his way of saying "fuck you" to President Bush.

Yes he is saying F you to Bush, so would I if I could, but then again I am a peacenik that thinks Bush should be put on trial for treason and for war crimes. I am not a fan of Chavez (I generally distain politicans for the loathsome creatures they are) but if I had to choose between them I would vote Chavez if I could. But then again I do not believe in neocon economics either.

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