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cooper1982 -> how much dose love come in to play? (4/25/2011 6:07:10 PM)
I need to know is love really that important. I have always had a problem showing any emotions to any body. I would like to find a sub/slave that like to be treated like property and not a person. Am I looking at this wrong?

SorceressJ -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/25/2011 6:12:17 PM)
That depends. Many of us come from relationships, both casual and committed, monogamous and poly, where the concept of being a person and being property are one and the same. Some of us have had it that way without the considerations of love, but the human heart does not tend to find that very satisfying in the long run. It's all about what you're looking for, though; are you just looking for fun and games, or something long-term? What would be wrong for one of us is not relevant where you and your goals are concerned.

coookie -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/25/2011 6:16:02 PM)
Many women are okay with someone who has difficulties expressing love in conventional ways. Some are even okay with not bringing love into the equation. I personally need someone that expresses his love in some way and that he indeed does love me but that hardly makes everyone. Be upfront with people and see how it goes.

littlewonder -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/25/2011 6:26:00 PM)
Some are looking for love. Some are not. I personally needed love. Without it I would have refused to go any further.

RedMagic1 -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/25/2011 6:31:13 PM)
About a year ago, I was discussing the possibility of owning a woman. She is quite a catch. I was the one who pulled the plug, because she didn't want her owner to be in love with her, and I realized that was incompatible with my own desires. It cuts both ways.

NuevaVida -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/25/2011 6:37:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cooper1982 I need to know is love really that important. I have always had a problem showing any emotions to any body. I would like to find a sub/slave that like to be treated like property and not a person. Am I looking at this wrong? If what you're looking for fits who you are, then no, you are not looking at it wrong. However, it does narrow your choices a bit. I am human property, and loved within a loving relationship. It's difficult to be a person yet not be treated as such. I've lived that way before, and the relationship could not sustain beyond a few years. In the end, I was miserable. Humans are multidimensional, complex beings. Not having basic emotional needs met takes its toll, over time.

subbykat -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/25/2011 7:41:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cooper1982 I need to know is love really that important. I have always had a problem showing any emotions to any body. I would like to find a sub/slave that like to be treated like property and not a person. Am I looking at this wrong? Even property should be treated properly...with love and care.

DarkSteven -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/25/2011 7:42:36 PM)
Um, cooper, your profile states that you and your wife (who is not described in the profile) are looking for a third. Your question implies that it will be a relationship between you and the third, and you're not factoring in your wife.... Stupid question - what are you looking for in the third that your wife cannot fulfill?

cooper1982 -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/25/2011 8:29:52 PM)
My wife is the only person that had ever made me care about someone. She would like somebody to play out her bi fantasy with. I would like too have some one too use and not care about there emotions. I know how bad that sounds.

LadyPact -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/25/2011 8:34:23 PM)
Good luck finding the unicorn. Remember that for those who want love, you won't even be considered. For those who don't....... well........ there's a lot of competition.

cooper1982 -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/25/2011 8:56:53 PM)
I do know that. But I can not lie to someone and tell them I will love them when I know I will not. That how people have bad experiences.

BitaTruble -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/25/2011 9:07:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cooper1982 My wife is the only person that had ever made me care about someone. She would like somebody to play out her bi fantasy with. I would like too have some one too use and not care about there emotions. I know how bad that sounds. Have you considered paying a pro? No fuss, no muss and you'll get exactly what you and your future wife are seeking without messy emotions coming into play.

sexyred1 -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/25/2011 9:19:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cooper1982 I need to know is love really that important. I have always had a problem showing any emotions to any body. I would like to find a sub/slave that like to be treated like property and not a person. Am I looking at this wrong? I applaud your honesty. Whether you will find someone who wishes to be treated like that, then your question will be moot. I do think self awareness of what you can and cannot give to someone is key, as is being 100% upfront about this. On the other hand, there are many types of relationships where this dynamic can be played out against a backdrop of love.

MasterSlaveLA -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/25/2011 10:07:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cooper1982 I would like to find a sub/slave that like to be treated like property and not a person. Easy enough... here ya go. Oh, and her name is Kelly. [image]local://upfiles/687741/FB3C1F9D8B2B45F8B7F2EB5D9A00D441.jpg[/image]

Hisprettybaby -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/25/2011 11:31:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cooper1982 I need to know is love really that important. I have always had a problem showing any emotions to any body. I would like to find a sub/slave that like to be treated like property and not a person. Am I looking at this wrong? Love is important to me. I could never be involved with someone without love being part of that relationship. If it's not for you, then it's not.....for you. You need to find someone that doesn't want to be loved, it's that simple. But if you want someone to serve you with all her heart and body as you say in your profile, be aware that her heart might possibly have love needs if you want it to last for the long-term. ~Hisprettybaby~

DarkSteven -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/26/2011 2:00:05 AM)
OP, please don't take this the wrong way.... Your profile shows me a large degree of detachment. Almost as thought your wife-to-be is hardly there in your mind. Your post shows that you want someone but focuses on one thing you don't intend to give her, not what you have to offer. And you don't mention your fiancee in it. I get the impression of a man who feels little or nothing. I would recommend some therapy to bring out emotions that have been bottled up.

DesFIP -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/26/2011 4:28:54 AM)
You're looking for a third which is extremely rare to begin with and you propose to give her nothing, not love, not friendship. Just use. Why should she go for that? What does she get out of it? I have known women who have had what began as nonemotional, part time, use only relationships but the only one's that were successful were those where the women had a primary who wasn't sadistic and couldn't fulfill her pain needs so he was okay with her going elsewhere for that limited need. Similar to having a tennis partner. Even in those couple of relationships, the people involved developed feelings for each other over time or else it ended badly. I really don't think you have anything to offer anyone, and the fact that your wife is not represented isn't helping your case. Why isn't this a couple profile, or at least link to hers so a potential third could get a sense of who both of you are since you want someone to be involved with both of you. Plus your profile gives no sense of who you are.

Franias -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/26/2011 5:04:54 AM)
Okay what kind of love are we talking about? We show care to even our animals. It's not healthy to just.. poke smack and smash people around and then kick them out. You can offer them some cupcake afterwards, most of them won't bite I promise.

SlayMi -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/26/2011 5:10:23 AM)
I don't know about other women but I get really sensetive after my Master and I play around and I definitely do need the love it gives me courage and makes me feel safe. I probably wouldn't be able to go one step forward without feeling his love and care over me.

subbykat -> RE: how much dose love come in to play? (4/26/2011 5:19:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cooper1982 I need to know is love really that important. I have always had a problem showing any emotions to any body. I would like to find a sub/slave that like to be treated like property and not a person. Am I looking at this wrong? Have you looked at it in a way that maybe you just don't want to deal with the drama that relationships can bring? I mean by having sex with your sub/slave you will likely bring out emotions in her regardless of whether you want to pretend to see her as an object...she never will be. Maybe you would be better off, with a coin-operated one... You know, Charlie Sheen once said to a judge when asked why he paid for sex... "I don't pay them for sex, I pay them to leave..."

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