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Edwynn -> RE: Bill Hicks (4/27/2011 8:50:12 AM)
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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
The fact is our forefathers were pissed when they left, and even though our traitors deal with your traitors, we have our own way. Different things are important to us, and when a guy like this speaks out and gets through the maze of mass media despite his political incorrectness, we like that.
T, what Bill Hicks had to say is stuff that a lot of people over here have thought through for themselves.
He seemed to me like a lad who was only just realising that governments don't always have your best interests at heart and he couldn't quite come to terms with it. He hadn't progressed to that point where you think: "oh well, there's always my private life in which I can count on the people around me".
Maybe scepticism just comes more natural to us.
Either way, gave my honest account to the OP - nothing enlightening at all in what he had to say - and the man was a bit of a wreck in his private life.
The last remark indicates the inherent "not invented here" attitude still remaining from the colonial/empire days of spreading the gospel and blessing the world with the superior culture and way of thinking, the personal snark there being all that is left to that purpose now.
What Bill Hicks had to say was thought through by a lot more people in the US than anywhere else at the time, I assure you, especially for those who don't take the media at face value, and especially in regards to reportage of the actual mindset of many in this country. When are you going to ever get it? The media's job is not to accurately report what everyday people think. Their ongoing job is to tell us what to think, and every device available to them for that purpose will be invoked, especially at times like that, for other gullible folks to read as they will.
The media report what they want us to think.
Let that sink in.
Nothing was 'new' to Hicks about how governments operate, he could see through BS from birth. I know the type, suffice to say. He never presented any new facts, he was not a reporter. He just read the everyday newspapers like the rest of us, and anything in the way of 'dirt' was already known to most all, here at least. What he was doing was presenting the same news with actual logical consequences left intact, as opposed to being shoved aside by the media.
And here is where you show inadequacy to the task entirely; his commentary was as much or more a diatribe against the media as towards government. They are the ones who present all this crap with a straight face. And yes, that even includes the BBC, if themselves not quite as good at the melodrama as US media.
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