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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 1:49:17 PM   
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What I find even more amazing is that we have people who are so blinded by partisanship that they would automatically dismiss any questions about the presidents eligiblity and any questions about the government complying with the constitution on every issue.

It's your duty as an American to question everything, and keep the government complying with the Constitution. Ignoring the Constitution is the same as not having one. If you dont' have a Constitution then that means the government can do what ever they want.

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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 1:53:24 PM   
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you haven't seen his prior work questioning W, Gingrich, Tricky Dicky, Limbaugh and so on, then?

A fuckin masterpiece........

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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 2:00:01 PM   
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I am so going to love this political season! Political genius at work. Trump playing devils advocate to get transparency out of Obama. Being silly? Trump is great at this! Deflect and distract. Savvy, master-mind genius? heheeh I will be over-the-top surprised if Mr. Trump is anything other than the current front runner who won't run but what fun and has a snowballs chance of winning GOP nomination much less the title POTUS.

Obama didn't need to release it three years ago. He had it in the bag already and not enough was made of the issue *before* he had it in the bag. Now, however it scores political points. In one fell swoop it reinforces his own base's belief and takes the birther airtime away from everyone. To give further platform to birthers will be both political and network suicide AND Obama gets to come out looking adult, dignified, poised and presidential right before everyone will have to start declaring as we get started here.

Then Trump asks for college records? OMG.. Perfect! No matter how Obama handles that one, he wins! It's like a cat with a mouse. If he ignores Trump, he reinforces the idea that this trivial crap is just that... trivial crap. If he comes out with "Show your tax records first" then he's put one nice and neat in the back corner of the court and scores an ace because the guy is ELITE with a capital E and that base just ain't big enough to get elected in 2012. If he actually shows his college record, so the fuck what? He was president of the Harvard law review.. do you think that guy was a D student or something?

My guess is that Obama will choose the route of adulthood and ignore the rest of this nonsense and get on with the business of trying to get this country out of the pit we've dug for future generations and I just *know* that everyone on this forum wants there to actually BE a future for our children, right, even if they don't believe it's possible?

Genius, I tell ya.. the man is a genius. I can't WAIT to see what happens next. HA! I love reality television!









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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 2:26:19 PM   
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Great minds and all that....

Earlier today I had a quote from P.T. Barnum come to mind and now it has escaped me.

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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 3:51:41 PM   
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1.  Big league politics is blood sport.  Obama's policies are designed to destroy the United States.  Therefore, if his birth certificate illustrates he isn't eligible for office, I'm all in favor of ejecting him from the game on that ground.  FYI, as a lawyer, I can say the game isn't over.  Now that we appear to have established he was born here, that doesn't mean he's a natural born citizen.  The law at the time, as I've read in some of the journals, states that his mother had to be 21 in order to confer citizenship on him.  His father as a dual national couldn't do it.  I believe he was a dual national of Kenya and the UK.

2.  Average Americans have to produce a birth certificate for all manner of ordinary activities.  I have produced mine many times in my life.  He's not holy; he has to play by the rules, too.

3.  When running for office in Illinois, Obama requested, and a court granted his request to UNSEAL divorce filings in order to embarass his opponent out of the race.  Obama doesn't mind playing dirty one bit.

4.  There were CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS ON WHETHER JOHN MCCAIN WAS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, since his parents were in the Panama Canal Zone when he was born. 

5.  Using the term "birther" is  consistent with the left's technique of name-calling those they disagree with.  When I was a child, NO ONE would have imagined taking the American historical event of the Boston Tea Party, and turning it into a insult by calling opponent teabaggers to invoke the image of homosexual putting their mouths around men's testicles.  The adolescent nature is appalling.  Not to mention all the insults I've read calling Mrs. Palin a "naughty" secretary type.

6.  Obama has fought court case after court case to avoid doing what ordinary Americans do day in and day out:  produce a birth certificate for mundane matters.  I personally would NEVER SPEND $2,000,000.00 to avoid showing my birth certificate to run for office.  How many liberals on this board will show me the $2,000,000.00 they would spend to avoid that, if they were truly natural born citizens.  If true, then it makes Obama a medically certifiable mentally ill man.  No sane person would do that.  Seriously.

There's more, but I've already broken my pledge not to cast more pearls before swine.  Shame on me!





What law school did you graduate from?  Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventures in the Legal System?

If in fact you somehow managed to find some on-line, non-ABA approved diploma mill to grant you a law degree then you should at least be aware that you never raise a question or an issue that you do not already know the answer to.

I suggest you read the whole article.

It may help prevent you from looking as foolish in the future as you appear now.


PolitiFact
Donald Trump claims Obama has spent $2 million in legal fees defending lawsuits about his birth certificate


By the way Clarence Darrow, what are all these mundane matters you keep having to present your birth certificate for?

I can only recall having to use mine once in my life.

And while you are at it, maybe you can elaborate on those policies of his that "are designed to destroy the United States".

Oh, and I had to add one more question.  You do realize that the dumbass teabaggers called themselves that until someone pointed out what dumbasses they were for doing that?  Then they tried to save face by claiming it was made up by liberals.  Way too funny!




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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 3:54:02 PM   
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To point out a few of Trumps blatant lies concerning President Obama which he has made repeatedly and on record.


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# He claims the president’s grandmother says Obama was born in Kenya. In fact, the recording to which he refers shows Sarah Obama repeatedly saying through a translator: "He was born in America."
# He claims that no hospital in Hawaii has a record of Obama’s birth. Hospital records are confidential under federal law, but Honolulu’s Kapi’olani Medical Center has published a letter from Obama calling it "the place of my birth," thus publicly confirming it as his birthplace.
# He insists that the official "Certification of Live Birth" that Obama produced in 2008 is "not a birth certificate." That’s wrong. The U.S. Department of State uses "birth certificate" as a generic term to include the official Hawaii document, which satisfies legal requirements for proving citizenship and obtaining a passport.
# He claims that there’s no signature or certification number on the document released by Obama. Wrong again. Photos of the document, which we posted in 2008, clearly show those details.
# He says newspaper announcements of Obama’s birth that appeared in Hawaii newspapers in 1961 "probably" were placed there fraudulently by his now-deceased American grandparents. Actually, a state health department official and a former managing editor of one of the newspapers said the information came straight from the state health department.

Donald, You’re Fired! Trump repeats false claims about Obama's birthplace.


Of course, Orly Taitz is going to make a fuss because the Birth Certificate does not mention "Negro" as the race of the father.

She is sure to have other arguments about the second release of the Birth Certificate.

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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 5:30:23 PM   
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As far as I can tell HERE is the law then and now... Please point out where it says anything about the age of the mother...Maybe I am missing it.

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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 5:38:58 PM   
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It will be okay 0, many leftists cant post on topic. That, or they believe that a haircut is a serious campaign issue... so it all works itself out in the end.



Nah.  Wearing a flag pin on the lapel is a serious campaign issue!

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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 6:00:53 PM   
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5.  Using the term "birther" is  consistent with the left's technique of name-calling those they disagree with.  When I was a child, NO ONE would have imagined taking the American historical event of the Boston Tea Party, and turning it into a insult by calling opponent teabaggers to invoke the image of homosexual putting their mouths around men's testicles.  The adolescent nature is appalling.  Not to mention all the insults I've read calling Mrs. Palin a "naughty" secretary type.
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Obviously you weren't watching Fox news all day when the tea party meme got off the ground.  They were calling themselves teabaggers, as were Fox news reporters.  When the snickering started, they got all outraged and said the libtards were using naughty words.

Short form certificate of live birth was good enough for me to get a passport.

BTW, Trump's just using the Breitbart school of journalism approach.  Throw everything including the kitchen sink, no matter how bogus.  Line up a few hundred bloggers to write messages about it (he did that for the Acorn tape).  By the time folks figure out it's bogus days or weeks later, well, hey the news cycle is past.  If the "throwee" doesn't respond, get all outraged and state that they are ducking the issue/chicken/hiding something/doing other nefarious things.  Can't go wrong with an approach like that, right?

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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 6:28:52 PM   
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There,are you Teabaggers happy now?!No,probaly not.The very far right fringe group known as the Teabaggers were really hoping to use this pathetic attempt as a election campaign.Do you really think our federal government would have anyone not born in the USA to be sworn in as the President of the USA?I highly doubt it.Now Donald Chump can focus on combing his hair.

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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 6:30:55 PM   
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Trump is asking the questions now that should have been settled years ago.

Had the left wing media done its job and vetted candidate Obama before he won the Democratic nomination we wouldnt be going through this right now. Instead, they treated him like the second coming of Jesus...

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ORIGINAL: MMercurial
5.  Using the term "birther" is  consistent with the left's technique of name-calling those they disagree with.  When I was a child, NO ONE would have imagined taking the American historical event of the Boston Tea Party, and turning it into a insult by calling opponent teabaggers to invoke the image of homosexual putting their mouths around men's testicles.  The adolescent nature is appalling.  Not to mention all the insults I've read calling Mrs. Palin a "naughty" secretary type.
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Obviously you weren't watching Fox news all day when the tea party meme got off the ground.  They were calling themselves teabaggers, as were Fox news reporters.  When the snickering started, they got all outraged and said the libtards were using naughty words.

Short form certificate of live birth was good enough for me to get a passport.

BTW, Trump's just using the Breitbart school of journalism approach.  Throw everything including the kitchen sink, no matter how bogus.  Line up a few hundred bloggers to write messages about it (he did that for the Acorn tape).  By the time folks figure out it's bogus days or weeks later, well, hey the news cycle is past.  If the "throwee" doesn't respond, get all outraged and state that they are ducking the issue/chicken/hiding something/doing other nefarious things.  Can't go wrong with an approach like that, right?



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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 6:36:15 PM   
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So you are saying your right wing preferences were unable to find anything prior to the election and that it was up to the media to do so?

Do you really seriously think that the Clinton organization didn't dig for every possible iota of dirt possible?

Come now, whether you hate the Clintons or not......they are not stupid and they have resources that would terrify an opponent trying to hide something.

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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 6:40:08 PM   
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They were asked years ago and dismissed years ago as stupidity from the lunatic fringe.


Trump is just trying to appeal to those douche-bags and you and getting respect apparently.


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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 6:47:00 PM   
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These questions were settled years ago Sanity....at least in the minds of those who had half a mind.Now just 'cause that ,by definition,excludes you (and those like you out)is no reason to bitch that it wasn't done.


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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 6:47:09 PM   
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The Clintons alone couldnt or shouldnt be expected to do the job of the entire media, the job that the media should have and could have done had they not been blinded by their biases

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So you are saying your right wing preferences were unable to find anything prior to the election and that it was up to the media to do so?

Do you really seriously think that the Clinton organization didn't dig for every possible iota of dirt possible?

Come now, whether you hate the Clintons or not......they are not stupid and they have resources that would terrify an opponent trying to hide something.


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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 7:06:00 PM   
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Oh but the media did do there job and told us everything we know about President Obama.There`s no new new`s here.


They also did their job and told us about Sarah.


America made an informed decission.

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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 7:11:05 PM   
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This is racial - white people not accepting a black man as president.


Why Obama shouldn't have had to 'show his papers'

http://www.thegrio.com/politics/why-obama-shouldnt-have-had-to-show-his-papers.php

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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 7:16:44 PM   
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Oh but the media did do there job and told us everything we know about President Obama.There`s no new new`s here.


They also did their job and told us about Sarah.


America made an informed decission.


Exactly!

Not to mention the obvious misinterpretation of my point about the Clintons. I don't for a moment doubt that the Clinton machine dug deeply into Obama's life to an intense degree. They were opponents. There is no reason to imagine otherwise.

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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 7:57:47 PM   
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Domiguy has made over 12,000 useful contributions...please let us know when you plan to make your first

I don't have a problem with Domiguy but it wasn't exactly a useful contribution. Have you read all 12,000 if his posts or for that matter most of my posts on here, and what exactly has gotten your goat? Oh sorry I forgot you attack anybody whenever it takes your fancy. That's pretty much your only party trick on the forum!
Quite possibly correct...but you have to admit I am real good at it.Hell,I just might decide to place you on my party list....won't that be special

More than quite possibly - most definately lol. We all must be good at least at one thing, and for you it is personal insults so at least we agree on one thing. I hope we can be friends... truly I do...
You are allowed to hope.....but if I were you I wouldn't count on it.
It is a short list.....and one needs to produce a valid birth certificate to be eligible

Awww... and I was hoping we could have some good innocent fun as buds!

BTW I only have my short form live birth cert. Hope that counts so I can make the list!

Sorry I require a Certificate of Live Birth....long form....nothing else will do....sorry,but I must maintain my standards

Indeed Mike we should ALL maintain certain standards, and perhaps if and when we hold an office of import to supply the definitive data when others request it of us!

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RE: Long form birth certificate released. - 4/27/2011 8:19:23 PM   
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Well see this would be where we diverge....for I was so convinced of both his eligibility and his suitability for the Job he currently holds....that I cast my vote for him.
See I've been satisfied all along that the selection/election process worked just fine Seems a majority of my fellow citizens felt the same .


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