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NocturnalStalker -> RE: Would you degrade or humiliate a strange woman who asked for it? (4/29/2011 4:11:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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How do we as a group feel about NocturnalStalker?


Well, I always get "Dude Looks Like a Lady" stuck in my head, which is fairly annoying. Not sure that's his fault, though.


Isn't it just CUTE that I'm a straight male and dominant when you factor all that in?  It's like a Twilight Zone situation.




aromanholiday -> RE: Would you degrade or humiliate a strange woman who asked for it? (4/29/2011 8:06:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness

If you beat a sub who's already physically broken, it's likely damage will be done.  If you hurl abuse at a sub who's mentally broken, you'll also do damage.  Such subs are victims - often willing victims - and I have no desire to play a part in their ongoing self-destruction.



Actually, you might as easily make things better for her--as long as you were willing to push it beyond a certain point. The results are a bit unpredictable, however.

Both dogs (see Pavlov), and people (see W. Sargant), when they reach a certain level of mental stress or excessive stimulation (such as that experienced during warfare by soldiers placed in grave danger for long periods of times), start to shut down mentally. There are symptoms: stereotyped behaviors, jerky obsessive movements, laughing at horrible things, crying at neutral or happy things, grossly inappropriate responses to what is actually happening around them. It is speculated that this shutdown during extreme stress is a preservation process that saves their brains from more extensive damage. When this shutdown or "transmarginal inhibition" occurs, if the pressure on them is extreme, an "ultra paradoxical" mental stage can be reached where one starts to like what one formerly intensely disliked and dislike what one formerly liked. This is a purely physiological process, and it is at the root of brainwashing: during the brain's natural response to extreme emotional/mental stress, one's old programming, established belief systems, old habits, including negative and neurotic ones, are highly vulnerable to change and are often spontaneously reversed. At very least, the brain becomes extremely open to adopting new belief systems. The documentation of this phenomenon is quite extensive, and covers a wide variety of situations, not just shell-shock from warfare.




aromanholiday -> RE: Would you degrade or humiliate a strange woman who asked for it? (4/29/2011 8:07:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Palliata
Fair enough. How do we as a group feel about NocturnalStalker? I've always wondered...


From what I have observed, he is a mystery within a mystery. There is certainly more to his hair than meets the eye.




poise -> RE: Would you degrade or humiliate a strange woman who asked for it? (4/29/2011 8:28:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Palliata
Fair enough. How do we as a group feel about NocturnalStalker? I've always wondered...


I have it on good authority that he is one hell of a dancer.




sunshinemiss -> RE: Would you degrade or humiliate a strange woman who asked for it? (4/30/2011 1:59:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: crazyml


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ORIGINAL: gothikbutterfly

I'm not in the habit of hurling abuses at random strangers. I only do it to people I like.


This


Wonders how many people are realizing that neither gothikbutterfly nor crazyml likes them.

Perhaps we need a poll?




sunshinemiss -> RE: Would you degrade or humiliate a strange woman who asked for it? (4/30/2011 2:02:42 AM)

As to the question of NS - I put my profile on hide just so I can perv him every day, and he'll never know! YAY! Win! Shhh... don't tell.




ranja -> RE: Would you degrade or humiliate a strange woman who asked for it? (4/30/2011 3:21:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: poise


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ORIGINAL: Palliata
Fair enough. How do we as a group feel about NocturnalStalker? I've always wondered...


I have it on good authority that he is one hell of a dancer.


oh my




DarkSteven -> RE: Would you degrade or humiliate a strange woman who asked for it? (4/30/2011 4:47:37 AM)

I don't play with people I don't know somewhat because of the chance we'll mesh playwise and no other way. Plus, she could always be a psycho. I used to play too quickly when I was new to the lifestyle and it sometimes went well, and sometimes not.

And humiliation is a soft limit for me.




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Would you degrade or humiliate a strange woman who asked for it? (4/30/2011 5:36:03 AM)

In an unprecedented turn of events here on CM, I find myself *agreeing* with Awareness !!

(Are you ready for it?) This:

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

I wouldn't be interested for a start, but secondly I'd have severe ethical issues with doing so.

When humiliation is a kink and the receiving mind is healthy, I don't see a problem.  When the humiliation is merely feeding the dark parts of a mind that's turned on itself, I see a severe problem.

Essentially my approach is "do no harm" - which doesn't imply I won't inflict pain, but the fundamental concept is "do no damage".

If you beat a sub who's already physically broken, it's likely damage will be done.  If you hurl abuse at a sub who's mentally broken, you'll also do damage.  Such subs are victims - often willing victims - and I have no desire to play a part in their ongoing self-destruction.

That's why I look for psychologically healthy partners.  Plus, I'm not fond of drama and the broken are usually magnets for it.





NocturnalStalker -> RE: Would you degrade or humiliate a strange woman who asked for it? (4/30/2011 11:03:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

As to the question of NS - I put my profile on hide just so I can perv him every day, and he'll never know! YAY! Win! Shhh... don't tell.


If any of those hot blondes that do the same as you do to my profile ever read this; if you say "hi" I promise I won't strangle you.




Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: Would you degrade or humiliate a strange woman who asked for it? (4/30/2011 12:23:18 PM)

If the mood strikes me right... I might indulge in berating their pathetic ass for my amusement.




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