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GOP presidential hopefuls court New Hampshire voters - 4/30/2011 8:34:29 PM

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I think the Republican Party will reluctantly select Romney as the nominee. It's sad the party has deteriorated to such an extent that Michele Bachmann was the only candidate people found interesting. Donald Trump not being there says a lot about his non-candidacy.

I don't think the Republican Party has normal political people in it anymore. It seems more like it's being controlled by evangelical Christians. Obama was right to call Trump a carnival barker, not that it matters but my opinion of him isn't what it used to be.

GOP presidential hopefuls court New Hampshire voters

The only candidate who drew a burst or two of enthusiasm was Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann. She vowed to cut the top income tax rate, now 35 percent, to 20 percent, and pledged to work for “the mother of all repeal bills.” While she didn’t detail all that she wants repealed, her list includes the health care law as well as “government rules and regulations that kill American job growth.”

Two other conservative favorites drew some support. Businessman Herman Cain wants to privatize Social Security and “cut, cut, cut” the budget.

And former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum spoke largely in philosophical terms. “America was founded great,” he said. “It wasn’t great because some politicians gave us stuff.”

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/04/29/113424/gop-presidential-hopefuls-court.html#ixzz1L04XJacT

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RE: GOP presidential hopefuls court New Hampshire voters - 4/30/2011 8:43:42 PM

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I'm just hoping that the Republicans find some fiscally conservative dark horse that wont sell the party's soul to the religious right.

I know, Impossible dream huh?

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RE: GOP presidential hopefuls court New Hampshire voters - 4/30/2011 8:51:52 PM

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Deregulation? Hasn't history proven what a bad idea this is already?

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RE: GOP presidential hopefuls court New Hampshire voters - 5/1/2011 3:27:44 AM

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The old Republican Party had a conservative fiscal spending policy. There's no such thing today as a fiscally conservative Republican. The only person I can think of is Ron Paul but I think it would be dangerous if he were elected president because he’s too extreme even though I like his idea to cut defense spending, so I guess it is impossible.

Republicans are not fiscal conservatives.

Increasing numbers of voters point to the growing federal deficits as a major issue for deciding their votes come November, 2010. If those voters took a look at which of the two major parties is responsible for the current deficit situation, they would not vote for any Republican, anywhere. After all, it was Karl Rove and Dick Cheney who said; “Deficits don’t matter” (and see here).

But, for those which find themselves concerned over ever growing budget deficits and see them as a threat to the financial security of America at large and their children and grandchildren in particular, deficits do matter. And it’s Republican Presidents who were in charge during the creation of most of the current deficit.
Since Richard Nixon, the tax cut and spend policies of successive Republican Presidents has accounted for the vast majority of the US outstanding national debt. The total percentage of US National Debt accrued under Republican Presidents Reagan, Bush I and Bush II is over 73.2 % of the amount which has been incurred since the beginning of the United States.

http://dangerousintersection.org/2010/10/13/republicans-not-fiscal-conservatives/

The Myth of Republican Fiscal Conservatism

Seeing Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney fight over who is more of a fiscal conservative made me think that they are actually barking up the wrong tree. You see, although the Republican Party claims to be the party of “small government”, and many fiscal conservatives vote Republican for that reason, the record shows that the last Republican fiscal conservative president was Richard Nixon. What? Not even Reagan? No. Reagan was no more fiscally conservative than the so much maligned Jimmy Carter.

http://thepoliticsofdebt.com/2007/11/30/the-myth-of-republican-fiscal-conservatism/

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RE: GOP presidential hopefuls court New Hampshire voters - 5/1/2011 7:33:33 AM

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I hadn't personally experienced the evangelical christian parts of the country until my hike through the south...OMG they are scary. NH is so not voting for an evangelical any time soon.

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RE: GOP presidential hopefuls court New Hampshire voters - 5/1/2011 7:39:33 AM

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RINOs are as big a threat as flat out socialist demos. I see the whole demo party radicalized. I am quite confident a leader will arise from the Republicans. ABO is my battle cry (anybody but o'dumbo). I would be a better president. My pool boy would be a better president.

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RE: GOP presidential hopefuls court New Hampshire voters - 5/1/2011 9:34:31 AM

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After all, it was Karl Rove and Dick Cheney who said; “Deficits don’t matter” (and see here).

Reagan said it first. But the Bushies were the ones who pushed it way too hard.

Reagan created the pipe dream that tax revenues could be stimulated indefinitely by cutting taxes, the foolishness of the Laffer Curve. Present day Republican straddle the weird dichotomy of declaring that revenues can be magically produced by cutting taxes, and even so, the need to cut funding on liberal programs even though they believe that the money flow is unending.

Seriously, if I honestly thought I had an infinite supply of free money, I'd be pretty darn free about spending it for others' agendas, just to be nice.

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RE: GOP presidential hopefuls court New Hampshire voters - 5/1/2011 11:14:11 AM

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I'm just hoping that the Republicans find some fiscally conservative dark horse that wont sell the party's soul to the religious right.

I know, Impossible dream huh?

Not entirely impossible, but improbable. I think they're going to have some difficulty selling their economic principles, which will force them to appease the religious right. I don't see that they have any real practical choice at this point, since the fiscal conservatives have largely adhered to the Chicago School.

Someone else in this thread mentioned Nixon and Reagan, but the one difference between them was that Nixon was a Keynesian, while Reagan was not. I seem to recall that Reagan was somewhat critical of Keynes. I'm more of a Keynesian myself, although everyone tells me that it was discredited decades ago. Of course, I don't think the Chicago School has much to crow about these days either. Their ideas haven't been working out too well lately.

I had mixed feelings about Ross Perot. I agreed with his stance against NAFTA and his warnings about the dangers of deficit spending. I don't even see that as a liberal/conservative issue, as Jerry Brown and Ralph Nader were saying much the same thing. Both the mainstream Democrats and mainstream Republicans dismissed them as "kooks," which is when I realized that both parties were working in concert to lead America in the wrong direction.

I was a lifelong Democrat until Clinton signed NAFTA, at which point I gave up on both parties. Now, the Democrats are a joke, the Republicans are a joke, and America is going to hell in a handbasket.

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RE: GOP presidential hopefuls court New Hampshire voters - 5/1/2011 12:01:21 PM

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Brain, I lived in New Hampshire for 10 years and never saw any "evangelical christians" there! I'm not saying there aren't *any*in the state but if there are they're far and few between. Do those "Jehovah's Witnesses" count? There's a few hundred of them up there.
A couple of crazed Baptists but that was it.
I was in a restaurant one time and Al Gore walked in and people started booing him. lol

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