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Arpig -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/3/2011 8:30:25 PM)

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Do Canadians hate America so much that they voted the Liberals out,just for that?!
No. He was a dipshit. He basically said he would raise the GST, one of the most hated taxes we have. And he was simply unelectable. Much like what's his fuck who ran against Bush II the second time (can't remember his name at the moment).

It may surprise you to learn that the majority of Canadians actually like the U.S. Being your neighbour and friend is pretty much the best damn thing to be on this earth. I mean its like being Brok Lesner's retarded little brother. Nobody, but NOBODY, gets to fuck with you but Brok. And in this case, Brok is a decent guy who only teases us now and then and usually lets us keep our lunch money.




heartcream -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/3/2011 8:31:31 PM)

I didnt watch the interviews, I didnt read all the this and that. From my vantage point what I get is, Harper is Bush with a bigger head. Folks dont like Iggy because he gots his education at Yale or Harvard and we have plenty of good skoos heah. He said he would go back to the USA if he didnt win and what kind of a Canadian does that!?!

I remember Jack Layton from way back running for this or that position and not winning. Toronto Maple Leafs anyone? NDP is what po' folks vote for but I hear Layton's plans sucks too.

Apparently 72% of us dont vote. I am glad the green party got a seat. Not only does Quebec want to be a separate cuntry but now I hear so does Newfoundland.

I think it all makes the United Statesians laugh at us and make it harder to get over the border.




tj444 -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/3/2011 8:38:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Charles6682

I thought the USA was being good to Canada?!I notice the leader of the Liberal Party lived in America before.Do Canadians dislike America so much that they voted the Liberals out,just for that?!
Here I thought everyone around the world just loved the USA![8|]


I fear becoming unemployed shortly [:****] or having my job trucked down to Indianapolis or Virginia, along with our potash and softwood lumber.
All we get in return from down south is the emerald ashborer beetle and malaria.
Good thing I got that spammail saying I could make $1200 for 2 days 'work' per week as a prodomme . . .



The Liberals have not been in power in Canada for 5 years now. It wasnt just the Liberals that lost seats, it was the Bloc in Quebec as well. Iggie had no experience, Harper is a career politician, as is Jack Layton of the NDP. I am not quite sure why but the NDP surged in the last week or two from the polls I saw. He supposedly gave some good speeches and did well in the debates. But I would not want him as PM, he wants to increase taxes and spend more. I dont want to see Canada in a similar situation to what Bush did to the US and that is what would happen with the NDP in power, imo. Canadians p«y too much tax already.




Tantriqu -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/3/2011 8:49:35 PM)

Remember, Harper gives huge tax breaks and backdoor deals to his big three: multinationals, defense and his cronies, so we will pay more money for fewer services, while selling our resources literally down the river. We export oil, gas, electricity and water to the US for less than we pay: what the?!!
He is de-regulating health, so the inspections for food and water have decreased, which is why people died across the country from Listeriosis from a big company that didn't bother to dismantle its equipment to clean it when no one was watching them.
We had a televised quiz featuring MPs from the top three parties: the Conservatives came dead last.
The monkeys have the keys to the banana plantation, my friends, and they're ready to sell it and let the rest of us starve.




Arpig -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/3/2011 8:50:41 PM)

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I am not quite sure why but the NDP surged in the last week or two from the polls I saw.
I've been doing the polls in Quebec through the whole election, and the NDP was ahead all the time from the responses we got (yeah we do discuss the interesting surveys we do).

As to the rest of your post..well lets just say I disagree. I can't wait for an NDP Government.

Sincerely
CM's only self admitted Socialist (as far as I know)




Arpig -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/3/2011 8:55:30 PM)

Yeah Tantriqu. Defense!!! What the fuck does Canada need new ultra-modern fighters for. Hell we don't need fighters period! We barely need an army or a navy for fuck's sake.
We are protected by our physical location.

There are only two possible threats to Canada: The US & Russia. If either moves against us the other will intervene whether we want them to or not. It's that simple.




Charles6682 -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/3/2011 8:57:16 PM)

Thats right.Canada gets all of the benefits of being the friendly neighbor to the North of the U.S.A.,without the majority of America's problem.Canada basically gets free military support from America.I mean,why would Canada even need a military when the U.S.A. will always be there to defend Canada?!Plus,the U.S.A. likes Canada.America might pick on little brother Canada sometimes but its always in a good way.Canada is in a pretty good situation to have the most powerful country in the world right at its backdoor.I think America is lucky enough to have such a peaceful neighbor at next door too.

It may surprise you to learn that the majority of Canadians actually like the U.S. Being your neighbour and friend is pretty much the best damn thing to be on this earth. I mean its like being Brok Lesner's retarded little brother. Nobody, but NOBODY, gets to fuck with you but Brok. And in this case, Brok is a decent guy who only teases us now and then and usually lets us keep our lunch money.





WyldHrt -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/3/2011 8:57:35 PM)

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There are only two possible threats to Canada: The US & Russia. If either moves against us the other will intervene whether we want them to or not. It's that simple.
Or, we could just split Canada down the middle.... [;)]
*runs out of thread*




Arpig -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/3/2011 9:10:30 PM)

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Or, we could just split Canada down the middle....
You'd never agree on the dividing line [:D]




kdsub -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/3/2011 9:11:05 PM)

Maybe reality is setting in… Canadians are beginning to feel the economic pain the US has been feeling for some years. They now understand they can’t continue to depend on economic growth to fund their social programs as in the past.

It is time for them to tighten the belt and they believe conservatives will do it…Just like the good old USA. We are not so different after all.

Butch




tj444 -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/3/2011 9:15:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Yeah Tantriqu. Defense!!! What the fuck does Canada need new ultra-modern fighters for. Hell we don't need fighters period! We barely need an army or a navy for fuck's sake.
We are protected by our physical location.

There are only two possible threats to Canada: The US & Russia. If either moves against us the other will intervene whether we want them to or not. It's that simple.



Canada IS part of NATO and has committments to provide forces for peace keeping and war when necessary.
Canada also has the north that it now (with the melting ice) has to defend and protect and the coasts of Canada up to 200 miles. And ya never know, there could be another FLQ-like situation of civil unrest/terrorism where the military needs to come in.




NavyGirl18 -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/3/2011 10:48:35 PM)

My first time voting, and my local guy won! My party didn't though. I'm not even a little bit happy with the results.




WyldHrt -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/3/2011 11:08:28 PM)

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You'd never agree on the dividing line [:D]
Twue dat! [8D]




LoneWolf13 -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/4/2011 1:31:27 AM)

I cant see anything good comming out of this majority, now harper has carte blanche to do as he wants, this is not the conservatives of the mulrony years (mind you those were not that great either) this is the old reform party (preston manning) anti womens rights, anti gays, ect ect. huge tax breaks for oil companys and banks. spending billions on F35 planes (with no engines) and on and on. one of the first thing harper said in his speach after winning was 'nothing can stop us now'

The NDP got in so strong because of Quebec 57 seats, very few here like harper, we are fed up with the bloc, they burried themselfs as soon as they made the seperation the top priority in the campaign, the liberals? their track record speaks for itself.




WyldHrt -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/4/2011 1:40:36 AM)

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anti womens rights, anti gays, ect ect. huge tax breaks for oil companys and banks. spending billions on F35 planes (with no engines) and on and on

OMG, who the hell cloned Bush and sent him to Canada????




mcbride -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/4/2011 10:22:45 AM)



Factually wrong in two ways. Go back to sleep.






Marc2b -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/4/2011 11:16:15 AM)

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You'd never agree on the dividing line.


They can have Newfoundland (the crappy province)... we get the rest.

Actually, if it wasn't for that bastard Brock, we'd already have Canada... but then where would we get our Cuban cigars?




mcbride -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/4/2011 11:53:02 AM)

It's not status quo, it's a huge change, for two reasons.  A majority government is far different from a minority, because it can pass any legislation it damn likes, and it's good for at least four years. And ideologically, Harper's party is far to the right of previous Conservative governments.  This guy makes Brian Mulroney look like Leon Trotsky, so the fact that the cage has been unlocked is major.

And there's very good news for those American HMOs and corporations who hated having a public, universal health care system just next door getting consistently better results for far less money.

Our boy Harper spent several years heading a national lobby group that was founded specifically to kill Medicare. Since he returned to politics, he's been very quiet on the subject, since Canadians are overwhelming supportive of Medicare and its results.  He'll get his chance in 2014 when the agreement between the federal government and the provinces must be re-negotiated.

Sadly, the fact that Liberal leader Ignatieff spent years teaching at Harvard was the focus of a long series of Conservative attack ads immediately before the election campaign, when there are no limits on spending.  They outspent the Liberals 15 to 1 on ads. Ironic, though, that the expensive barrage of dire warnings about a guy living in the US should come from conservatives.  (This, incidentally, is the strong-on-defense Conservative government that bought F-35s, but, um, didn't buy engines for them.)  

Alas, Iggy didn't have much instinct for politics, with the result that the opposition parties split the vote, allowing large numbers of conservative candidates to win with only very small increases. or no  increases, in their own vote counts.

For the NDP leader, Jack Layton, it may turn out to be a case of "be careful what you pray for".  More than half of his caucus will come from Quebec, where the party couldn't even get arrested in the past 50 years.  It had one MP in Quebec until Monday night, an ex-Liberal. Until about two weeks ago, the Bloc Quebecois easily topped the polls in Quebec, as it has since it was founded, and until about two weeks, the NDP was barely a blip, in fourth place.  The astonishing turnaround utterly destroyed the separatist Bloc -- all to the good -- but there's a problem.

When no one knows your party exists, you'll take any warm body as a local candidate, because there's no danger of them being elected.  Whoops. One of them, an assistant manager at a bar, spent most of the campaign on vacation in Las Vegas. Another became a member of the party three weeks before the election. A number of them live far from the ridings they represent, and had no connection to the ridings.  One ran for the Communist Party in 1997. Two are university students, one of them just 19. All of these people are now Members of Parliament.

And a sizable number are either separatist or "soft nationalist". With Layton's brand new Quebec MPs making up more than half of his entire caucus, his new gig as the leader of the Official Opposition, the new head of Canada's "shadow government", should be entertaining.  No wonder Stephen Harper is grinning. 




NewOCDaddy -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/4/2011 12:58:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tj444

In the US, to get laws passed, the politicians have to trade favors and you scratch my back i scratch yours so when that happens, good ideas get watered down and everything gets so convoluted that it all becomes almost unworkable. For Obama to implement the health plan it ended up being what, 1000 pages long??? Does anyone understand it after all the politicians have added and deleted and sliced and diced?



And that was within 1 party! Imagine if the GOP actually was given input....it never would have happened at all.

Too bad it did.




mnottertail -> RE: Conservatives win majority in Canada (5/4/2011 1:10:22 PM)

The remaking of history, neo-con style.




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